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GOP wants to tighten voting laws
Millwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | 11/03/04 | STEVE SCHULTZE

Posted on 11/04/2004 6:36:01 AM PST by machman

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To: machman

You are correct. The fraud I witnessed in Racine was huge.


41 posted on 11/04/2004 8:19:57 AM PST by LouD
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To: machman; All
1. Begin with a return to a "property-owner only" vote, negotiate down from there.
2. Purge all voter registration roles. 3. Passport-type Voter ID, WITH PHOTO
4. Member of the US military and their families get GREATER priority to absentee ballots and return.
5. All vote related fraud be upgraded to Level 1 felonies.
42 posted on 11/04/2004 8:21:08 AM PST by britt reed
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To: mollynme

I was around the UW campus during move in week and overheard a couple of those "register to vote" people telling students to do just that... vote absentee at home and vote here in person.


43 posted on 11/04/2004 8:21:57 AM PST by nuzman
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To: lone star annie
Good question, you ask. Part of the battle, I've learned, is that Dems (Diane Feinstein, Barbara Jordan) continue to regularly wish to pass the "Citizen ID" or "national ID"; and the more inane of the liberals wish for a "global citizen" id. The conflicting idea here... is that adding an "ID" factor into the equasion of voting muddies or grows the initial problem -- that problem of corruption. It's a point to consider.

As an interim, yes it would be nice if Driver's Licenses could be used to "fortify" proof of citizenship at the polls.

You wanna hear some irony? Take the tobacco companies offering special "miles" bonus gifts. Did you know, in order to use those "miles" and get those bonus gifts, one must send in a photocopy of their driver's licenses? Imagine that... more proof required here, than at our own election booths.

44 posted on 11/04/2004 8:22:25 AM PST by Alia
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To: lone star annie
Good question, you ask. Part of the battle, I've learned, is that Dems (Diane Feinstein, Barbara Jordan) continue to regularly wish to pass the "Citizen ID" or "national ID"; and the more inane of the liberals wish for a "global citizen" id. The conflicting idea here... is that adding an "ID" factor into the equasion of voting muddies or grows the initial problem -- that problem of corruption. It's a point to consider.

As an interim, yes it would be nice if Driver's Licenses could be used to "fortify" proof of citizenship at the polls.

You wanna hear some irony? Take the tobacco companies offering special "miles" bonus gifts. Did you know, in order to use those "miles" and get those bonus gifts, one must send in a photocopy of their driver's licenses? Imagine that... more proof required here, than at our own election booths.

45 posted on 11/04/2004 8:23:43 AM PST by Alia
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To: lone star annie
Good question, you ask. Part of the battle, I've learned, is that Dems (Diane Feinstein, Barbara Jordan) continue to regularly wish to pass the "Citizen ID" or "national ID"; and the more inane of the liberals wish for a "global citizen" id. The conflicting idea here... is that adding an "ID" factor into the equasion of voting muddies or grows the initial problem -- that problem of corruption. It's a point to consider.

As an interim, yes it would be nice if Driver's Licenses could be used to "fortify" proof of citizenship at the polls.

You wanna hear some irony? Take the tobacco companies offering special "miles" bonus gifts. Did you know, in order to use those "miles" and get those bonus gifts, one must send in a photocopy of their driver's licenses? Imagine that... more proof required here, than at our own election booths.

46 posted on 11/04/2004 8:24:24 AM PST by Alia
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To: machman

Don't get your hopes up. We have control but what Republicans in the House or Senate have the (you know whats) to use it.

They are even going to let Specter run the judiciary committee.

I swear, they must all be afraid of their FBI files. Either that or they just really are that "nice."


47 posted on 11/04/2004 8:25:10 AM PST by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: Alia

Net is bubbling here today; kept getting "error pages". FR caught all three times I tried to post.


48 posted on 11/04/2004 8:26:07 AM PST by Alia
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To: Final Authority

They should be required to get NH residency including switching their DL and car tags to NH from a different state (like MA) before being allowed to register to vote.


49 posted on 11/04/2004 8:29:19 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: machman; exnavy; MamaLucci; truthandlife; Salvation

SOURCE: http://www.conservativeaction.org/resources.php3?nameid=votefraud

How Democrats Steal Elections - Top 10 Methods of Liberal Vote Fraud

1. Over-Voting. In Democrat strongholds like St. Louis, Philadelphia and Detroit, some precincts had 100% of their registered voters voting, with 99% of the ballots going to Gore. Clearly, multiple voting resulted in extra tallies for Gore in the 2000 election. (New York Post, 12/09/00).

2. Dead Voters. This classic Democratic method of vote fraud goes all the way back to 1960 in Chicago and Dallas. The 2000 election was no exception. In Miami-Dade County, for example, some of the 144 ineligible votes (those which officials actually admitted to) were cast by dead people, including a Haitian-American who's been deceased since 1977 (Miami-Herald, 12/24/00).

3. Mystery Voters. These "voters" cast votes anyway but are not even registered to vote. In heavily Democratic Broward County, for example, more than 400 ballots were cast by non-registered voters. (Miami-Herald 1/09/01)

4. Military ballots. Many of these votes were disqualified for the most mundane and trivial reasons. At least 1,527 valid military ballots were discarded in Florida by Democratic vote counters (Drudge Report, 11/19/00).

5. Criminals. Felons are a natural Democratic voter and they're protected on voter rolls across the country. In Florida at least 445 ex-convicts - including rapists and murderers -- voted illegally on November 7th. Nearly all of them were registered Democrats. (Miami-Herald 12/01/00)

6. Illegal aliens. These voters have long been a core liberal constituency, especially in California. In Orange County in 1996, Rep. Bob Dornan had his congressional seat stolen from him when thousands of illegal aliens voted for Loretta Sanchez (Christian Science Monitor, 9/2/97).

7. Vote-buying. Purchasing votes has long been a traditional scheme by Democrats, and not just with money. In the 2000 election in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Democratic workers initiate a "smokes-for-votes" campaign in which they paid dozens of homeless men with cigarettes if they cast ballots for Al Gore (Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, 11/14/00).

8. Phantom Voters. These voters don't really exist, but their ballots do. In the 1996 Lousiana Senate race, GOP candidate Woody Jenkins had the election stolen from him when he discovered that 7,454 actual votes were cast but had no paper trail to authenticate them (Behind the Headlines, F.R. Duplantier, 4/27/97).

9. Dimpled chads. Those infamous punch-cards were a ballot bonanza for Al Gore. Democratic poll workers in Palm Beach, Dade and Broward counties tampered and manipulated thousands of ineligible ballots and counted them for Gore, even though no clear vote could be discerned. (NewsMax.com 11/27, 12/22, 11/18, 11/19/00).

10. Absentee ballots. Normally it's assumed that Republicans benefit from absentee ballots. But in the case of Miami's 1997 mayoral election, hundreds of absentee ballots were made for sale or sent out to non-Miami residents. Fraud was so extensive in the race that the final results were overturned in court (FL Dept. of Law Enforcement Report, 1/5/98)."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=votefraud
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=electionfraud

EVERY VOTE COUNTS . . . INCLUDING FRAUDULENT ONES!!


50 posted on 11/04/2004 8:30:40 AM PST by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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To: hripka

Good job, useful info in there.


51 posted on 11/04/2004 8:31:49 AM PST by exnavy
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To: exnavy

Wisconsin doesn't have motor voter. We have, show up at your polling place, register & vote.


52 posted on 11/04/2004 8:40:40 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly

Right, many other states do, peoples repulic of Kalifornia is a biggie.


53 posted on 11/04/2004 8:46:55 AM PST by exnavy
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To: machman
Amen to that...

Wisconsin voters need to remember a drunk driving Attorney General who promised to be
harsh on drunk drivers & getting the menace off our streets...

She promised us that she would make sure that our roads and children would be safer with her and Doyle at the helm......

She is a drunk driver who crashed her state owned vehicle..and remained on the job.. Wisconsin's highest ranking LEO....

The Police Unions refused to condemn her...or demand she resign..

Neither did the Governor ask for or demand her resignation.

She remains on the job a compromised AG

Wisconsin voters need to remember a Governor who vetoed legislation that would have protected Wisconsin's RIGHTFULL voters from being disenfranchised by
lying, cheating, and stealing.

Our votes were stolen....thanks to Doyle... and given to the Democrats....

Will this crime ever be investigated by our Democrat Attorney General? Not likely....at least not
vigorously...but Republicans who complain...those imo will be investigated..

Governor Doyle promised to be the Governor of ALL WISCONSIN CITIZENS...yet he promoted and invited fraud with his vetoing of the bill that would protect all Wisconsin voters...

Wisconsin voters were disenfranchised by Doyle and the Democrat Party Thugs...

If these crimes are not investigated or not investigated throughly enough the criminals will not only not be caught or punished...they have a mandate and a get out of jail free card both the Governor and AG will cash in for them ....next time...and the time after...as long as Gov Doyle and AG Lautenschlagger are in power....

Wisconsin voters will know why....and who...stole their votes regardless...

Wisconsin needs an honest and faithful governor and an attorney general,
Not the kind who enable Vote Fraud...or the kind who place party above the law and above the
welfare and rights of ALL Wisconsin citizens

Wisconsin without the fraud votes went for Bush...not Kerry

We were robbed of the pride of that...of Wisconsin being a Red state instead of a blue..

We were robbed of our right to vote...one guaranteed by the blood of generations of Wisconsin soldiers marines sailors and airmen...

What branch of the service did Gov Doyle or AG Lautensclagger fight in?

Dump Doyle & Lautenschlagger NOW

IMO
54 posted on 11/04/2004 9:29:40 AM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: machman
In my county we had about 500 new registrants in just one town of 4,000. Most of these were recent arrivals from the Milwaukee area who "had just moved to the area". One fake utility bill per polling station and you can vote all day. Assuming that this was the only voter fraud in my county, it still lowered our margin by 2%. This would have been enough, if eliminated statewide, for the President to have won.

I am convinced that the margin of fraud was at least 4% statewide. Registration with utility bills, library cards, and discount club cards has to go. Even worse, once you are registered in this was, you can vouch for as many other voters as you want so that they can be registered without any ID at all. The state GOP attorney I spoke with yesterday said the Dems were stationing these "vouchers" at polling stations all day in parts of Milwaukee and Madison to vouch for anyone who comes through. In this way, a large groups of fraudulent voters could vote dozens of times at different polling sites with untraceable fake names that could never be prosecuted.

We have to fix this system or we will permanently loose this state. Just as we Wisconsin Republicans organized our GOTV like never before, the Dems did the same with their voter fraud. Look to our southern boarder with Illinois: once the cheaters win they institutionalize the corruption to install themselves forever.

55 posted on 11/04/2004 9:48:07 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
We have to fix this system or we will permanently loose this state. Just as we Wisconsin Republicans organized our GOTV like never before, the Dems did the same with their voter fraud. Look to our southern boarder with Illinois: once the cheaters win they institutionalize the corruption to install themselves forever.

Yup, repubs organize, and work on GOTV, rats organize, and work on GOTFV, get out the fraudulent vote, which seems to be so much easier.

56 posted on 11/04/2004 10:06:39 AM PST by machman
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To: machman

Yep.


57 posted on 11/04/2004 11:38:40 AM PST by happygrl
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