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KERRY'S FLU-SHOT FOUL
New York Post ^ | October 24, 2004 | Editorial

Posted on 10/25/2004 6:25:58 AM PDT by OESY

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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Consdering the extremely high cost-benefit of vaccines for society, this is a real problem with the market and a place where government intervention is called for.

Uh, government has already intervened - with disastrous results. The vaccine makers were doing fine until Hillary tried to force them to sell their vaccines for at or below cost, using the purchasing power of government. Since no business is sane enough to sell their products for a loss, the drug companies just stopped producing the vaccines. Try reading Atlas Shrugged sometime.

41 posted on 10/25/2004 8:19:22 AM PDT by No-Compromise Conservative
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To: Phinanceguy

Add to the fact that the process of making flu vaccines is obsolete. If I'm not mistaken, the vaccines come from sterilized chicken eggs, using a time-consuming and costly process.


42 posted on 10/25/2004 8:21:38 AM PDT by BlkConserv
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To: KC_Conspirator
Bush and Republican leaders in Congress have advocated for legislation that would cap awards for noneconomic damages at $250,000. A House bill, based on a California law that physicians say has been successful in keeping liability insurance premiums in check, also would limit the proportion of awards that trial lawyers could claim.

Speaking at the meeting, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, MD (R, Tenn.), vowed to address the issue this year. Liability reform legislation was passed by the House last year [2002] but never made it to the Senate floor.

March 2003 - Bush to AMA: Tort reform a must

For the sake of affordable and accessible health care in America, we must have a limit on what they call non-economic damages -- I propose a cap of $250,000," Bush told an enthusiastic audience made up of health care workers, Republican supporters and students at the University of Scranton. The president was referring to a limit on pain-and-suffering awards.

In addition, Bush urged Congress to pass caps on punitive damages. Bush backed similar legislation that was approved in the House last year [2002], but not in the then-Democratic controlled Senate.

Jan 2003 - Bush outlines medical liability reform

43 posted on 10/25/2004 8:22:44 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Josh in PA; OXENinFLA
It's time to start hammering back hard on how scumbags like Edwards is the REAL reason there is a vaccine shortage.

The Clinton's set it all in motion back in the mid-1990's, and Edwards profited from the lawsuits.

44 posted on 10/25/2004 8:29:55 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (If you're for civil unions, you're for gay marriage)
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To: Josh in PA
I refuse to take anything when I get sick..

Same here. I would just let it run it's course when I got sick. I've never had a full blown flu in over 15 years, and when I do get the flu, it lasts maybe 2 or 3 hours. It's similar to waking up in the morning with stuffed nasal passages and a dry throat. Glass of orange juice and a couple tissues of Kleenex and it's gone.

45 posted on 10/25/2004 8:33:02 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (If you're for civil unions, you're for gay marriage)
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To: beaversmom
Surely there would be somewhere in the U.S. between Dallas and Canada where he could have gotten a flu shot. The whole country isn't dry of flu vaccine

He could go to Mexico! They are selling them on the street corners there. Really!!!

46 posted on 10/25/2004 8:33:41 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Cicero
I'm also high risk because of age and because I had my spleen removed because of Hodgkins. I got a shot. It should have been possible for most high-risk people to get shots. That was supposedly what they were reserving them for.

I'm sorry that you've had to go through so much. Hodgkins was one of the first diagnoses they gave me, but it was incorrect. When I saw pictures of all of those sick people standing in long lines waiting to get their flu shot, I felt bad for them. Some of them were on oxygen, so I decided to wait to get one. No matter how bad things are, I know there are a lot of people worse off than I am. I opted to wait, so those who are worse can get theirs.

47 posted on 10/25/2004 8:48:49 AM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: Cicero
It should have been possible for most high-risk people to get shots.

WRONG. I know of at least two high risk people who have not been able to get it. One is a family member.Yet illegal kids and elderly are getting it.

48 posted on 10/25/2004 8:53:06 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: bray
Last year two weeks after my flu shot I was sicker than a dog.

Last year 24 hours after my flu shot I was sicker than a dog. Happened a few years ago 24 hours after I got the shot. I will never ever get it again.

49 posted on 10/25/2004 8:57:20 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: OESY
"Vaccines became one of the first medical products to be eliminated by lawsuits."

Repeat, as needed...

50 posted on 10/25/2004 9:38:42 AM PDT by talleyman (A foreign leader told me on his deathbed: "Kerry is a liar - he just makes stuff up...")
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To: RetiredArmy

There's so much hype about it this year, much of it probably to make Bush look bad. After all, what did he know and when did he know it? (smile)


51 posted on 10/25/2004 10:51:02 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: WomanBiologist

I'm not talking about the stomach flu. I mean influenza.


52 posted on 10/25/2004 10:52:27 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: EdReform

Bttt for later


53 posted on 10/25/2004 10:56:39 AM PDT by EdReform (Have you seen FAHRENHYPE 9/11? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1240926/posts)
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To: No-Compromise Conservative

I am talking about research and development. Pay attention to setences that come before and after.

Or perhaps you (or your wife) are of the opinion that Viagra is one of the world's most important drugs.


54 posted on 10/25/2004 11:28:27 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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To: Senator Kunte Klinte

Flu Shot Info (just in by e-mail)

How the vaccine works:

Influenza vaccine is produced by growing the virus in eggs. The virus is killed and processed to create the vaccine, which is given by injection under the skin. The body then produces antibodies to the virus over the next two to four weeks. If the immunized person then comes into contact with the influenza virus, the antibodies attack and kill the virus before it has a chance to cause infection. The vaccine contains the 3 most likely strains to be active during the "Flu season."

Why the shortage:

Almost half of the nation's flu vaccine will not be delivered this year. Chiron, a major manufacturer of flu vaccine, will not be distributing any influenza vaccine this flu season. Chiron was to make 46-48 million doses vaccine for the United States. Chiron is a British company. Recently British health officials stopped Chiron from distributing and making the vaccine when inspectors found unsanitary conditions in the labs. Some lots of the vaccine were recalled and destroyed.

Why is our vaccine made in the UK and not the US?

The major pharmaceutical companies in the US provided almost 90% of the nations flu vaccine at one time. They did this despite a very low profit margin for the product. Basically, they were doing us a favor. In the late 80's a man from North Carolina who had received the vaccine, got the flu. The strain he caught was one of the strains in that years vaccine made by a US company.

What did he do?

He sued and he won. He was awarded almost $5 million! After that case was appealed and lost, most US pharmaceuticals stopped making the vaccine. The liability out weighed the profit margin. Since UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits, UK and Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US. By the way...the lawyer that represented the NC man in the flu shot law suit was a young ambulance chaser by the name of...... John Edwards.


55 posted on 10/25/2004 11:40:36 AM PDT by OESY
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To: paltz

No it only cost Bush votes,That's why the race is tight,they never fight back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111


56 posted on 10/25/2004 1:47:58 PM PDT by patriciamary
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