Federal judge says Michigan must count provisional ballots in wrong precincts (Klinton hack)

AP ^ | 10-19-04 | David Eggert

[Murph]

He has no jurisdiction. This ruling should be ignored. The Supremes ruled in 2000 on state law. This guy is over-reaching

One word -- IMPEACHMENT! Why don't we make an example of one of these activist judges? Plenty of places to start.

[MississippiMan]

WHat is the advantage to this order? Just doesn't make any sense to me......

Bottom line: Unregistered voters (or already registered and already voted under another name) will show up at precincts and be allowed to vote even though they're not on the rolls. This isn't what the law intends, nor even what the thieves are claiming to want, but mark my words: It is exactly what will happen.

This is far, far, far more serious than it appears on the surface. We're witnessing the breakdown of the rule of law, the breakdown of the most basic tenets of our democratic republic, and that's no exaggeration. It has become crystal clear that if Democrats can't win by election, they intend it to take it by judicial coup. And if history is any predictor, they'll get away with it. Bush and Ashcroft had four years to crack down on this kind of crap and prepare; they did nothing.

MM

[MIsunshine]

Guess who sued? Bay County Democratic Party, et al. and Michigan State Conference of NAACP Branches, et al. (http://www.mied.uscourts.gov/_opinions/lawson.htm 10/19/04 opinion).

I've been trying for years to figure out why Democrat & African-American leaders believe their group members are just too stupid to know how to vote. Why aren't Dem's & African-American leaders educating their respective group members instead of constantly publicly maligning them?

And I really don't understand why democrats & African-Americans repeatedly let themselves be publicly portrayed as just too stupid to know how to vote. I would be ashamed & so offended at constantly being called stupid.

"IMPEACHMENT!"

I was thinking exactly the same thing. We can't vote Lawson out, he was appointed-- nominated by Clinton, of course (http://www.mied.uscourts.gov/_practices/Lawson/bio.htm)

This judge has usurped the responsibility of our elected Congress and made law from the bench-- not his job.

Lawson has just made vote fraud possible & probable, disenfranchising legal voters. THIS is what I think is an impeachable offense.

There is NO reason for any legally registered voter not to know where to go to vote on Election Day. Any questions? All it takes is a phone call to your Clerk. And that phone call can be made any time before, or even made on Election Day! There is NO reason democrats or African-Americans can't do this like the rest of Michiganders who need to find out where to cast our ballots.

So, what do you know about impeaching Fed judges? I did a Google search & couldn't find specific instructions.

Also, *when* Lawson's ruling is overturned, can the parties bringing suit be made to pay attorney fees & court costs?

[EQAndyBuzz]

""It's a victory for the right to vote," Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer said Tuesday""

I think Chairman Brewer meant, "It is a victory for the right to vote more than once."

[MHT]

If you show up in the wrong precinct--your ballot will have issues on it that might not be relevant to where you live and people who are going to represent you, like aldermen. Letting people vote with the wrong ballot allows someone who doesn't live in the "neighborhood" to get to determine who governs the "neighborhood". It's ok for Prez, Gov, and other state levels but local issues will suffer. School levies, etc., could be effected, for better or for worse.

Wrong ballots is a lousy idea.

[Fredgoblu]

Heck...the UAW's got both Monday and Tuesday off...and many other workers in the state enjoy the trickle-down holiday schedule. They've got plenty of time to figure it out.

Even if they work that day, the precinct signs go up a couple days before the election...there's ample time to drive by and make sure that you're going to the right place. If the sign doesn't match the precinct listed on your voter registration card...pick up the phone and call, for crying out loud.

If you're too uninterested, lazy, or stupid to do that, I'm not sure you're responsible enough to make such an important decision.

[Prince Charles]

Michigan voters who cast ballots in the wrong polling precinct but are in the right city, township or village on Nov. 2 must have their votes for president and Congress counted, a federal judge ruled Tuesday.

What do you call a lawyer with an I.Q. of 40?

"Your Honor."

[kcvl]

I encourage all freepers who are concerned about voter fraud to call their local Republican office and ask what is being done to combat it.

Ask what you can personally do.

I AGREE!

[pollywog]

Oh my goodness this is scary.Cannot this decision be appealed right away?

Bottom line: Unregistered voters (or already registered and already voted under another name) will show up at precincts and be allowed to vote even though they're not on the rolls. This isn't what the law intends, nor even what the thieves are claiming to want, but mark my words: It is exactly what will happen.

[Gimme]

It has nothing to do with being "ignorant", it has to do with Leftists in the large cities (liberal bastions such as Flint, Detroit) being allowed to vote over and over and over and over, first in one precinct, then another, and another...

I wish they had stiff fines for repeat voters when discovered or jail terms. I think the whole think STINKS.
People have plenty of time to get an absentee ballot.

[Dan from Michigan]

Here's the thing though. Bay County is overwhelmingly white, and I'm fairly certain Bay City is one the whitest cities in the state which isn't a surburb.

This is planned for Wayne and Genessee Counties more than Bay County.

[hripka]

SOURCE: http://www.conservativeaction.org/resources.php3?nameid=votefraud

How Democrats Steal Elections - Top 10 Methods of Liberal Vote Fraud

1. Over-Voting. In Democrat strongholds like St. Louis, Philadelphia and Detroit, some precincts had 100% of their registered voters voting, with 99% of the ballots going to Gore. Clearly, multiple voting resulted in extra tallies for Gore in the 2000 election. (New York Post, 12/09/00).

2. Dead Voters. This classic Democratic method of vote fraud goes all the way back to 1960 in Chicago and Dallas. The 2000 election was no exception. In Miami-Dade County, for example, some of the 144 ineligible votes (those which officials actually admitted to) were cast by dead people, including a Haitian-American who's been deceased since 1977 (Miami-Herald, 12/24/00).

3. Mystery Voters. These "voters" cast votes anyway but are not even registered to vote. In heavily Democratic Broward County, for example, more than 400 ballots were cast by non-registered voters. (Miami-Herald 1/09/01)

4. Military ballots. Many of these votes were disqualified for the most mundane and trivial reasons. At least 1,527 valid military ballots were discarded in Florida by Democratic vote counters (Drudge Report, 11/19/00).

5. Criminals. Felons are a natural Democratic voter and they're protected on voter rolls across the country. In Florida at least 445 ex-convicts - including rapists and murderers -- voted illegally on November 7th. Nearly all of them were registered Democrats. (Miami-Herald 12/01/00)

6. Illegal aliens. These voters have long been a core liberal constituency, especially in California. In Orange County in 1996, Rep. Bob Dornan had his congressional seat stolen from him when thousands of illegal aliens voted for Loretta Sanchez (Christian Science Monitor, 9/2/97).

7. Vote-buying. Purchasing votes has long been a traditional scheme by Democrats, and not just with money. In the 2000 election in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Democratic workers initiate a "smokes-for-votes" campaign in which they paid dozens of homeless men with cigarettes if they cast ballots for Al Gore (Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, 11/14/00).

8. Phantom Voters. These voters don't really exist, but their ballots do. In the 1996 Lousiana Senate race, GOP candidate Woody Jenkins had the election stolen from him when he discovered that 7,454 actual votes were cast but had no paper trail to authenticate them (Behind the Headlines, F.R. Duplantier, 4/27/97).

9. Dimpled chads. Those infamous punch-cards were a ballot bonanza for Al Gore. Democratic poll workers in Palm Beach, Dade and Broward counties tampered and manipulated thousands of ineligible ballots and counted them for Gore, even though no clear vote could be discerned. (NewsMax.com 11/27, 12/22, 11/18, 11/19/00).

10. Absentee ballots. Normally it's assumed that Republicans benefit from absentee ballots. But in the case of Miami's 1997 mayoral election, hundreds of absentee ballots were made for sale or sent out to non-Miami residents. Fraud was so extensive in the race that the final results were overturned in court (FL Dept. of Law Enforcement Report, 1/5/98)."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=votefraud
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=electionfraud

WE MUST FIGHT VOTE FRAUD!

[Peach]

I urge all freepers to call their local Republican office and ask how you personally can help them combat voter fraud.

There WILL be a job for you. They need the help.

[MIsunshine]

I thought it odd that it was the Bay County democrats that brought suit. Any idea why this came from this mostly small town big farm area?

Do you know if the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals decision to overturn Ohio's new provisional ballot law, automatically overturns MI's too?