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Roman Comet 5,000 Times More Powerful Than A-Bomb
Scotsman ^ | 10/17/04 | John von Radowitz

Posted on 10/17/2004 3:36:42 PM PDT by freedom44

People living in southern Germany during Roman times may have witnessed a comet impact 5,000 times more destructive than the Hiroshima atom bomb, researchers say.

Scientists believe a field of craters around Lake Chiemsee, in south-east Bavaria, was caused by fragments of a huge comet that broke up in the Earth’s atmosphere.

Celtic artefacts found at the site, including a number of coins, appear to have been strongly heated on one side.

This discovery, together with evidence from ancient tree rings and Roman reports of “stones falling from the sky”, has led researchers to conclude that the impact happened in about 200BC.

However the claim still needs to be verified by other experts.

The crater field was uncovered after amateur archaeologists working in the area found pieces of metal containing unusual minerals.

A team of geologists led by Kord Ernston, from the University of Wurzburg in Germany, went to the site and discovered evidence of a cataclysm that would have left the region devastated for decades.

Not only would trees and homes have been flattened for many miles by the blast, but the local climate would have changed for years afterwards.

Tree rings show that vegetation growth slowed down in around 207BC, possibly because of the “nuclear winter” effect of dust blotting out the sun.

More than 80 craters were found in an elliptical area 36 miles long and 17 wide, ranging in size from 10 to 1,215 feet across. The largest, filled with water, now formed Lake Tuttensee.

Around the site the team found clues that suggested an impact from space, including rock heated into glass and minerals associated with meteorites.

The most likely cause was a low-density comet, 0.7 miles (1.1 kilometres) wide, that broke up at an altitude of 43 miles and fell in pieces to Earth, the scientists reported in Astronomy Magazine.

They wrote: “The main mass of the projectile struck the ground at 2,200 miles per hour, releasing an amount of energy equivalent to 106 million tons of TNT.”

The bomb that destroyed Hiroshima at the end of the Second World War had an explosive force of just 20,000 tons of TNT.

The scientists gave a graphic description of what it might have been like to experience the impact.

“About two seconds after the strike, people six miles away (10 kilometres) would have felt the ground shake as it would in a magnitude six earthquake. The air blast, arriving 30 seconds after impact, would have swept through at a speed of 500 miles per hour and produced a peak pressure of about 1.4 atmospheres, easily collapsing buildings, especially wooden ones.

“Even from 10 kilometres away, sound from the impact would have reached 103 decibels – loud enough to cause strong ear pain. Up to 90% of the trees would have blown over; the rest would have lost their branches.”

Forest beneath the blast would have ignited suddenly, and continued to burn until the shock wave blew the fire out, said the scientists.

The conflagration had left a thin layer of ash in and between the craters.

Roman authors at the time wrote about showers of stones falling from the sky and terrifying the local population.

Because of these events, the Senate in 205BC ordered that a conical meteorite known as the Needle of Cybele, which had been worshipped in Asia Minor, be brought to Rome.

“The impact undoubtedly had a major effect on the environment and people then living in the vicinity of Altoetting-Chiemgau,” wrote Ernston’s team.

“The region must have been devastated for decades. We are currently looking for gaps in the historical and archaeological records during the time we propose for the impact to better understand both the event itself and its cultural effects.”

Dr Benny Peiser, a leading expert on impact events from Liverpool John Moore’s University, said the report should be treated with caution until more was known.

He said the date was speculative, and pointed out that asteroids or comets a kilometre wide struck the Earth on average only once every 500,000 years. Generally such a large impact would cause much more severe and obviously traceable damage.

“In short, this is an an intriguing find, but I remain sceptical for the time being,” said Dr Peiser. “The impact cratering research community has not assessed these claims yet. That’s what needs to be done next.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 207bc; altoetting; altoettingchiemgau; archaeology; astronomy; bavaria; bolide; catastrophism; chiemgau; chiemgauimpact; germany; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; impact; lakechiemsee; mikebaillie; phaethon; romanempire; stalactites; stalagmites
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To: Centurion2000
"Following the pattern, we're way overdue for a LARGE strike of some kind."

It was just last year that one 'zipped' past only 27,000 miles from earth. It was detected as it was speeding away from earth.

41 posted on 10/17/2004 6:40:08 PM PDT by blam
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To: Centurion2000

If it were 100 megatons it would have leveled the forest of Germany all the way to Rome. The fireball alone would be 200 miles across.


42 posted on 10/17/2004 6:41:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: beezdotcom

;')


43 posted on 10/17/2004 6:53:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: RightWhale
I think you are confusing the size with the energy/explosive force.

The most likely cause was a low-density comet, 0.7 miles (1.1 kilometres) wide, that broke up at an altitude of 43 miles and fell in pieces to Earth, the scientists reported in Astronomy Magazine.

They wrote: “The main mass of the projectile struck the ground at 2,200 miles per hour, releasing an amount of energy equivalent to 106 million tons of TNT.”

The bomb that destroyed Hiroshima at the end of the Second World War had an explosive force of just 20,000 tons of TNT.


44 posted on 10/17/2004 7:05:05 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: blam

found this one:

'Asteroid Impact Could Have Prompted Constantine's Conversion'
Ananova ^ | 6-18-2003
Posted on 06/18/2003 4:45:56 PM PDT by blam

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/931431/posts


45 posted on 10/17/2004 7:14:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: RightWhale
If it were 100 megatons it would have leveled the forest of Germany all the way to Rome. The fireball alone would be 200 miles across.

Wrong, the entire cloud created from a 100 megaton explosion would be about 120km across. 200 mile fireball ?? No way, but the thermal pulse might be felt that far.

46 posted on 10/17/2004 7:19:21 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: freedom44

Ping!


47 posted on 10/17/2004 7:20:17 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Proud member of P.O.O.P., People Offended by Offended People.)
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To: Centurion2000

It is telling that media hyperbole has hugely influenced our collective tendencies towards ascribing far more destructive power to the "megaton" than can be reasonably calculated. I see evidence of this all the time.


48 posted on 10/17/2004 8:15:26 PM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

The explosion they describe is in the kiloton range. To get megatons the main body would have to strike the ground in the 60,000 miles per hour range, not 2,000.


49 posted on 10/18/2004 8:27:29 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: RightWhale
Several sources suggest you're wrong. Notice in the chart below a 1km diameter meteor is given a 75,000 Megaton kinetic equivalency.


Table 1 -  Risk of direct impact for a given location

Diameter  Kinetic Energy Area Devastated
Average. interval (years)
(m)  Mt  TNT sq km Earth "City" Inhabited Region & 
Expected Death toll
50 
10
1900
100 yr 
30 million yr
900 yr
1 million
100
75
7200 
1000 yr 
70 million yr
8000 yr
3 million
200
600
29 000
5000 yr
90 million yr
30 000 yr
14 million
500
10 000
70 000
40 000 yr
290 million yr
180 000 yr
30 million
1 km
 75 000
200 000
100 000 yr
260 million yr
290 000 yr
60 million
2 km
 1 million MT
-
 1 million yr
-
1 million yr
1.5 billion
All*
   
90 yr
14 million yr
800 yr
An impact by a 2km diameter stony asteroid is thought to be at the threshold of a global catastrophe and the  "damage" would go well beyond the area of direct devastation. It has been estimated that one quarter of the world's population could die from starvation and other indirect effects due to such an impact, which is thought to have an average interval of 1 million years (Morrison and Chapman 1995).



50 posted on 10/18/2004 6:57:14 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

That is why their description of the damage versus the size of the impactor are so wildly out of whack. Their numbers don't jibe.


51 posted on 10/19/2004 10:51:19 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: Djarum

Ping.


52 posted on 11/02/2004 3:25:42 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Thanks!


53 posted on 11/03/2004 2:47:29 AM PST by Djarum
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Note: this topic is from October of 2004. It antedates the Catastrophism ping list, it was pinged in GGG though. Thanks freedom44.
 
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54 posted on 09/16/2008 9:12:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

A blast from the past regarding a blast from the past. Sorry, I couldn’t resist.


55 posted on 09/16/2008 10:54:33 PM PDT by rdl6989 (What isn't above Obama's pay grade?)
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To: rdl6989

:’) Well, this was quite a tail...


56 posted on 09/17/2008 12:01:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just updating the GGG info, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


57 posted on 07/31/2011 6:09:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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58 posted on 06/29/2015 11:03:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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