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Kerry slams 'refusal to serve'
http://www.theaustralian.news.com ^ | 04sep04 = 07 October 2004 rerun reprint ? | AP, AFP old status quo {ghost author}

Posted on 10/16/2004 1:43:19 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK

Kerry slams 'refusal to serve'
AP, AFP
04sep04

NEW YORK: Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry declared he had taken enough "incoming" yesterday and blasted back at his Republican antagonists by suggesting George W. Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney were draft dodgers.

In his toughest counter-punch of the campaign, the decorated war hero said he was not going to have his military qualifications questioned by "those who refused to serve" in the Vietnam War.

"For the past week, they attacked my patriotism and my fitness to serve as commander in chief ... well, here's my answer," Senator Kerry said in Ohio.

"I'm not going to have my commitment to defend this country questioned by those who refused to serve when they could have and by those who have misled the nation into Iraq.

"Let me tell you in no uncertain terms what makes someone unfit for office and unfit for duty. Misleading our nation into war in Iraq makes you unfit to lead our country.

"Doing nothing while this nation loses millions of jobs makes you unfit to lead this country. Letting 45 million Americans go without health care for four years makes you unfit to lead this country.

"Letting the Saudi royal family control the price of oil for Americans makes you unfit to lead this country."

Mr Bush spent the Vietnam War in the Texas Air National Guard, and had faced accusations that even then he was absent without leave for long periods. Mr Cheney received five deferments and once explained that he had "other priorities".

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: collaborator; commie; kerry; lurch; nonsenator; nva; sellout; traitor; vc; vietcong
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04sep04 = 07 October 2004 rerun reprint ? reran a a new article but reprinted from september

Sinclair must be getting under the skin of the commies !

1 posted on 10/16/2004 1:43:19 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Hmmmmm.

Draft dodger vs traitorous Commie.

History says we pick the draft dodger; after all Slick Willie Clintax was elected twice, wasn't he?


2 posted on 10/16/2004 1:46:10 AM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, HE'S LOSING IT!


3 posted on 10/16/2004 1:51:10 AM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Didn't he use the "draft dodger" thing after the convention?

He's repeating the New Draft lie--talk about being bereft of ideas, he can't even get through one election without showing reruns

4 posted on 10/16/2004 1:52:09 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Sounds like kerry's paranoia is coming to the fore. Bush has never breathed one word about kerry's service, except to say he "served honorably." But don't hold your breath waiting for a reporter to ask kerry which specific statement Bush made against kerry's service. You'll never hear any of them do that.


5 posted on 10/16/2004 1:53:35 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Kerry is so far to the left. His windsurfing interfears fith the Japanese fishing fleet.


6 posted on 10/16/2004 1:54:05 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: clee1

Big whoop, he served FOUR (4) months! Wow, some BIG war hero!


7 posted on 10/16/2004 1:54:08 AM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
"I'm not going to have my commitment to defend this country questioned by those who refused to serve when they could have and by those who have misled the nation into Iraq."

As far I can tell, the President and Vice-President, have not made this an issue. What the h3ll is he talking about?

Senator Kerry, Sign the 180.

Scaredy Cat!
8 posted on 10/16/2004 1:54:18 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Sign the 180!

Prove us wrong!

9 posted on 10/16/2004 1:55:12 AM PDT by Salamander (Pirates of the Appalachians)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Oh, yeah -- you'll also never hear a reporter ask kerry about his 4 deferments and his denied request for a 5th one. Seems kerry wanted to "continue his studies," the exact same reason Cheney was deferred. But nope, you'll never hear him asked about that, even though every lamestream reporter in the country is well-aware of it.


10 posted on 10/16/2004 1:56:01 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

One thing everybody needs to be reminded of is that joining the navy was one way to reduce the chances of going to vietnam.


11 posted on 10/16/2004 1:56:08 AM PDT by bad company (Global test? Damn I forgot to study.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Kerry actually said that ????


12 posted on 10/16/2004 1:57:51 AM PDT by Mo1 (Terri Kerry's remedy for arthritis - soak white raisins in gin for 2 weeks)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
"Let me tell you in no uncertain terms what makes someone unfit for office and unfit for duty. Misleading our nation into war in Iraq makes you unfit to lead our country.

I guess he has been paying attention to the sales of "Unfit for Command".

13 posted on 10/16/2004 1:57:55 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Salamander

Hey, kerry -- how come we never see you in swim trunks? Could it be that you have no scars from your "purple heart wounds," the ones you were never hospitalized for? Hmmm?


14 posted on 10/16/2004 1:58:16 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: blondee123
He served a total of 3Y18D overall. He got out to run for congress. I wonder if I could have done the same? I was in VN too.
This clown has everything on the line, now that MA knows he's not Irish he's dead meat up here. So if he is not in office the pickle (or raisin/gin) queen is going to drop him like a rock.
Kerry is anything but patriotic.
15 posted on 10/16/2004 1:58:43 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Is the Free Press really free?)
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To: blondee123
Big whoop, he served FOUR (4) months! Wow, some BIG war hero!

He also rec'd deferments ..

16 posted on 10/16/2004 1:59:19 AM PDT by Mo1 (Terri Kerry's remedy for arthritis - soak white raisins in gin for 2 weeks)
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To: blondee123

Uh huh.. And he scammed his way out after minor band-aid type wounds.

What a worthless POS. Definitely worse than Sleaseball #42; and that's saying something.


17 posted on 10/16/2004 1:59:45 AM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Pop quiz. Who said this?

"It appears that with the deadline for exile come and gone, Saddam Hussein has chosen to make military force the ultimate weapons inspections enforcement mechanism. If so, the only exit strategy is victory, this is our common mission and the world's cause. We're in this together. We want to complete the mission while safeguarding our troops, avoiding innocent civilian casualties, disarming Saddam Hussein and engaging the community of nations to rebuild Iraq."

If you said GWB, you'd be wrong.

This was on John Kerry's website circa April 2003. Take a look for yourself - just click on the April 2, 2003 link on this page:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://johnkerry.com

But Kerry's only had one consistent position on Iraq. Right.


18 posted on 10/16/2004 2:00:13 AM PDT by PowerPro (Still Praying America Wakes Up In Time)
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To: bad company
That's right. Navy Reserve, to be exact. Coastal duty. No combat role. Until all that suddenly changed. Kerry never volunteered for combat duty, whereas Bush stated that he was willing to serve combat duty before he was even asked. Don't count on hearing this from the lamestream media. You won't.
19 posted on 10/16/2004 2:00:33 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: Mo1

Add to that the fact that Kerry himself applied for a student deferment, but was denied.


20 posted on 10/16/2004 2:00:59 AM PDT by PowerPro (Still Praying America Wakes Up In Time)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Senator Kerry. How many deferments did you seek, and how many did you receive? Is it not true that you enlisted because after a year of deferment, you asked for further deferment to study in PARIS, had been turned down and you chose to enlist in the Navy and hoped to avoid direct combat, as opposed to being drafted into the branches which saw MORE action?

REVEALED: How 'War Hero' Kerry Tried to put off Vietnam Military Duty.

21 posted on 10/16/2004 2:01:43 AM PDT by cgk (Teresa Heinz Kerry: ``The Democratic machine in this country is putrid.'')
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To: blondee123

Yep hes losing it because the Mapes / Rather expoese failed. His record is coming out this week. Both sides have known this from the beginnihg. Thats why the Viet Nam BS in Boston. Thats why the MSM effort to taint Bush's Guard service. To create moral equivalency between them so his dishonorable would be the same as the CBS documents. But they FFFed UP and now the moment of truth is coming and he is unraveling because he doesn't have his ace in the hole---the 60 minutes program was supposed to cover his butt, BUT--THANK YOU LITTLE GREEN FOOTBALLS!!!!!!


22 posted on 10/16/2004 2:03:52 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (out of the sun)
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To: PowerPro
A 5th deferment! He'd already been granted 4 of them.
23 posted on 10/16/2004 2:05:12 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: clee1; All

There must be something in the Sinclair movie that kerry is hiding from something besides the obvious that were not seeing in the daily diatribes sinclair may just bury kerry in his own muck !

I hear now he's demanding equal time ! why didnt he show up when they asked him to ? he could have been in the movie itself but i guess that wouldn't have give him time to spin maybe ?


24 posted on 10/16/2004 2:05:17 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Want to know why I don't vote Democrat?" http://www.museumofleftwinglunacy.com)
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To: bad company
There are exceptions. The waiting list to go to Vietnam in the Navy was huge. Many people (not Kerry) went into the Navy as a family tradition. My original orders to counter insurgency to NSA Saigon were canceled due to Nixon wanting to use more Vietnamese. Out of my CI class we all, to a man, volunteered for alternative service in Vietnam.
In my case I went into the service at 17 and Mom would not let me go in the Marines. She has no idea how much I wish she would have let me, regardless of the consequences.
25 posted on 10/16/2004 2:06:27 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Is the Free Press really free?)
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To: Bonaparte

I knew a guy that was a hippie in the early 70's. He came up with a low draft number and wanted to avoid Vietnam so he joined the navy. Really nice guy that really liked helping people. Volunteered to be a corpman. Could always tell you to the minute how long his tour in Vietnam was.


26 posted on 10/16/2004 2:07:34 AM PDT by bad company (Global test? Damn I forgot to study.)
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To: bad company

Like most hippies he was a dope. It was well know back then that most corpsmen wound up serving with Marines.


27 posted on 10/16/2004 2:10:31 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Is the Free Press really free?)
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To: Bonaparte

Aaaaugh!

-Please- no pictures of that!

[I have to go gouge out my mind's eye, now]


28 posted on 10/16/2004 2:10:50 AM PDT by Salamander (Pirates of the Appalachians)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

3 months really in country....the quickest possible out he could find? no wonder the real Swifties feel ill when they hear him speak. give it up loser....


29 posted on 10/16/2004 2:12:56 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse (I like Elephants .... a wise and noble creature....)
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To: cgk

Did he (Kerry) enlist in the Naval Reserve or the Navy? It might be analogous to Bush joining the Air National Guard, not the Air Force. Digging into Bush's records only resulted in the left uncovering records that showed Bush was rated very highly as a pilot.


30 posted on 10/16/2004 2:14:34 AM PDT by DuhYup
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To: Salamander

31 posted on 10/16/2004 2:15:14 AM PDT by 80skid
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To: ProudVet77

Don't get me wrong. I don't wish to cast aspersions on anyones service. kerry did try to avoid service and then wound up in the navy. That's the same tact my friend in post 26 tried to use. His intention was also to avoid Vietnam.


32 posted on 10/16/2004 2:17:33 AM PDT by bad company (Global test? Damn I forgot to study.)
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To: Bonaparte
Ewwwweeeee...don't give him any ideas. Gives me the willies just thinking of sKerry in a swimsuit. YUCK!
33 posted on 10/16/2004 2:18:28 AM PDT by codyjacksmom (Attention All Girlie-men...Please don't forget your foo foo's on the way out the door.)
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To: All

_________________
HE SMELLS IT COMING!!! THIS IS IS COMPARATIVE DEFENSE!!!!
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34 posted on 10/16/2004 2:20:15 AM PDT by wvromania
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To: bad company
"... so he joined the navy."

Even that hippy had a lot more guts than kerry, who joined the Navy Reserves, status "inactive." He was determined to avoid combat, only volunteered for swift boats because at the time, they were not used in combat, only for non-combat coastal duties. When he learned that he and his boat were being ordered inland for combat duty, he raised cain about it, practically refused to go. After that, according to those who served with him, he did nothing but complain and whine. Everybody there was very pleased to see him return to the States.

35 posted on 10/16/2004 2:20:19 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: Salamander
-Please- no pictures of that! [I have to go gouge out my mind's eye, now]

I have to totally agree, there comes a point where we draw the line, looking at his face is bad enough & at this late hour too!

36 posted on 10/16/2004 2:24:01 AM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
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To: 80skid

Oh, man, is that girl in the photo really holding a "sign the 180" sign? If kerry saw that, I'll bet he turned white.


37 posted on 10/16/2004 2:25:49 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: Bonaparte

Be prepared for Kerry's eeeowwwaahhhgggrrahhhhhh!!!
Hes real close to pulling a Dean.


You see his whole myth/lie about himself is about to unravel in public---he is going to be ruined----Icarus to the Left--Richard the III to the Right.

DAMN HIM STRAIGHT TO HELL


38 posted on 10/16/2004 2:26:11 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (out of the sun)
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To: DuhYup
Did he (Kerry) enlist in the Naval Reserve or the Navy?
This is all I've found so far, and I'm not sure if I'm reading it right...

Did Navy Lt. Kerry violate The UCMJ?

But the official Navy records show that Kerry joined the Naval Reserves (inactive), not the United States Navy, per se, as his own campaign indicated. He commenced active duty six months later. He transferred from active duty to the Naval Reserve (inactive) on January 3, 1970. He was put on standby reserve on 1 July 1972. He was finally discharged from the Navy on February 16, 1978. Here's a link to Kerry's service record chronology as listed in the official Navy documents from Kerry's own site.

39 posted on 10/16/2004 2:27:23 AM PDT by cgk (Teresa Heinz Kerry: ``The Democratic machine in this country is putrid.'')
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To: wildcatf4f3
sKerry is no ones hero, he's a gutless sissy! A hero is the kid I played with as a child & who was killed in Nam, a hero is my only uncle who died in WWII when his tank was blown up.

I don't know how much more I can read or handle from this puke before Nov.2, he makes my blood boil!

40 posted on 10/16/2004 2:27:29 AM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
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To: Bonaparte

Anyome who disagrees with Kerry is Bush. He's flipped.


41 posted on 10/16/2004 2:27:45 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: blondee123

You mean you don't want to see all the indentations in his butt from the rice he blew up?


42 posted on 10/16/2004 2:28:33 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: Bonaparte

Did you also notice that in all these pics with people in the background, they seem to be laughing AT him?


43 posted on 10/16/2004 2:28:54 AM PDT by blondee123 (Proud Member of the FR Pajama Blogger Brigade - New Sheriffs in Town!)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Oh my . . . this is getting to be funny. This is gonna be good. The gop obviously knows that this is a psychological hot-button of Kerry's, they're needling him, and he's taking the bait yet again. You'd think he'd know better, but he can't help himself. Looks like we're gonna go back to this buffonery, fighting Vietnam all over again, and look for Kerry's poll numbers to start dropping.


44 posted on 10/16/2004 2:30:55 AM PDT by gop_gene
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To: Bonaparte

Whaddya think Bonaparte, with legs like that wouldn't he be perfect for the swan scene?


45 posted on 10/16/2004 2:31:40 AM PDT by bd476
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To: Alas Babylon!
"He's flipped."

Calling a guy who volunteered for ANG, qualified in an F-102 and stated he was willing to serve in combat, a "draft dodger" is WAY beyond the pale. I hope kerry repeats this charge often in the next two weeks. Voters should know just how crazy this guy is.

46 posted on 10/16/2004 2:32:27 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: bd476
Ah, yes, the dying swan! And on November 3, he'll be a natural for the role.


47 posted on 10/16/2004 2:37:29 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: Salamander
If this traitor bastard will again tell around G.W. Bush nor Chenney didn't serve in Vietnam, G.W. should respond, "Sign your 180, stupid! Prove us wrong!"
48 posted on 10/16/2004 2:38:04 AM PDT by sneaky_goofy
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To: Bonaparte
Excellent and thank you!

And with the wonders of Freepers who might know how to PhotoShop... ah the mind boggles.

49 posted on 10/16/2004 2:40:33 AM PDT by bd476
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To: Bonaparte

Heh heh heh heh, or even THK. Oh my.


50 posted on 10/16/2004 2:42:19 AM PDT by bd476
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