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Report: 6,000 Felons On Voter Registration Lists
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Posted on 10/11/2004 7:17:13 AM PDT by esryle
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To: demlosers
For state offices only, Not for federal office.
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posted on
10/11/2004 8:24:27 AM PDT
by
Magnum44
(Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
To: ColdSteelTalon
You are dead wrong on this one. It is only for the period of their sentencing on their conviction that they are unable to vote as a felon. This means that if someone is covicted of rape, gets a ten year term, is paroled in five, it only means they cannot vote as a felon for the balance of the five years. They still have every incentive to fly right. They were paroled, not meaning their sentence is over, but merely serving out the rest of it in the community and under the supervision of the parole system.
I've been hearing this sales job for a while now, by people unfamiliar with the whole thing. My dad was a prison guard. I heard it 24/7.
The federal system has no parole, and is thus not part of the problem huh? If states want convicted felons to vote, then abolish parole and make them serve their full period of incarceration. That is what the liberals want huh? Is the only value of a felon in jail his potential vote and the jobs provided to the state prison system? Sheesh!
The person is in jail or on parole as an individual who has done serious harm to society. Now you want to heap on more harm? No, when he or she has served out their full term, then they can vote just like you or I. Parole is not a right.
42
posted on
10/11/2004 8:27:12 AM PDT
by
blackdog
(Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
To: MistyCA
I realize that this is more a "formality" than an actual question to ask, but how do we know all of these people were registered Dem? Most likely they were of course, but it's not in the article.
Media bias perhaps?
To: GenXFreedomFighter
She's a Republican. IIRC, Common Cause is one of the groups registering these felons.
To: MistyCA
I was thinking, why send in massive new registrations?
For example, the woman who was registered 3 times, or the localities where registrations seem high for population numbers, or the dead people registrations.
Regardless, you can envision a few scenarios, some are already being played out with offices overwhelmed with thousands of new registrations.
1. Too many new registrations and not enough time to process and get cards out in time for Election Day prompts calls for provisional ballots.
Or
2. Too many registrations leads to sloppy checks and ineligible voters are able to vote, or some voters vote multiple times.
3. Voter turnout is vastly lower than registration numbers which prompts calls of voter disenfranchisement.
4. General mess caused by massive registrations prompts calls for relaxed or new rules to make it "easier" for people to vote.
My hunch is they'll play all these cards, and generally spread as much FUD about the election as possible.
Although thousands of bad registrations have been thrown out, you know many many of them will get through.
I can only hope that the ambivalent Dems, or the Dems that don't care for Kerry, just stay home. Because believe you me, unless Bush wins by a significant margin, all hell is gonna break loose.
45
posted on
10/11/2004 8:32:30 AM PDT
by
visualops
(sKerry: Planless Man)
To: blackdog
They do that too. There's no reason they can't do both!
To: esryle; All
Click the picture & goto "last" for the latest on Vote Fraud:
47
posted on
10/11/2004 8:41:33 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
To: DSBull
True, but I believe that Zogby factors in the illegible voters when he reports his polls. That is how he maintains his record of 'coming closest to the results' each cycle.
48
posted on
10/11/2004 8:48:45 AM PDT
by
maica
(Vietnam Veterans Day is November 2)
To: esryle
I live in Denver and participated in some voter reg events this past summer for the Republican party. I'm actually surprised that only 536 felons were registered this year, given the situation.
At least one organization was using paid canvassers, operating on a quota, to register voters. Most of these people were kids who couldn't find any other job (much like the dollar-per-signature petitioners) so they had enormous incentive to register as many people as possible with little recourse to the law.
I was even asked to register again "just to make sure," because "it can't hurt to be careful" by a canvasser outside a grocery store.
Now the state is being inundated with voting-related lawsuits and complaints, i.e. a current suit involving provisional ballots. Many of the voter reg forms turned in were incomplete or filled out incorrectly, giving more ammo the the "disenfranchised voter" crowd.
The SoS is a R, but it seems to me she hasn't handled the situation very well and is passing the buck and vacillating on this sort of thing. I doubt this will be resolved by Nov 2.
BTW, given the demographics of the state, I don't think that this will help the Dems significantly, even if all 6006 vote. The only thing that will prevent all 9 votes from going to Bush will be Amendment 36 (splitting the electoral votes according to precentages). It's going to be a political circus come Nov 3rd.
49
posted on
10/11/2004 9:06:27 AM PDT
by
eiffel
(pioneer of aerodynamics)
To: esryle
Dah..... Are they possibly 'Registered' as Democrats ?
50
posted on
10/11/2004 9:18:42 AM PDT
by
Dustbunny
(The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
To: blackdog
How stupid can a secretary of state be? If you have 20,000 felony convictions per year, I'd imagine you'd have 20,000 felons ineligible to vote. Not exactly rocket science dearie. Not so simple. Only a handful of states permanently bar felons from voting, so while you're convicting X number of felons a year, Y number of felons are at the same time regaining their voting rights.
51
posted on
10/11/2004 9:27:50 AM PDT
by
Melas
To: demlosers
Yeah, but you can bet that somebody will pull the lever for the rest of them.
52
posted on
10/11/2004 9:32:01 AM PDT
by
Temple Owl
(19064)
To: blackdog
That varies from state to state. In Texas for example, you have to serve your entire sentence, and then wait an additional two years before your voting rights are restored. In Alabama, they're never restored.
53
posted on
10/11/2004 9:32:09 AM PDT
by
Melas
To: MistyCA; esryle; devolve
54
posted on
10/11/2004 9:33:56 AM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: esryle
Report: 6,000 Felons On Voter Registration ListsAnd a number on the ballot; isn't Marion Berry running again in DC?
55
posted on
10/11/2004 9:38:13 AM PDT
by
from occupied ga
(Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
To: from occupied ga
On Sean Hannity's radio program, Jesse Jackson asserted that the Florida Secretary of State's efforts to purge felons from the voter rolls is an attempt to disenfranchise one million blacks, because most felos are black. Nine county ellection officials have not complied with state directive, including Miami, as in 2000.
I believe that people get the government they deserve. There was a wake up call in 2000. Some heeded it, and some did not.
To: ColdSteelTalon
In many states they are allowed to regain their right to vote once they have successfully completed their sentence (including parole).
If I remember correctly, Oklahoma allows a former felon to register to vote 10 years after their complete sentence which includes parole has been completed.
I don't have a problem with allowing people who have successfully served their time and who haven't gotten into further trouble being allowed to vote.
57
posted on
10/11/2004 9:58:57 AM PDT
by
Sally'sConcerns
(It's painless to be a monthly donor!)
To: MistyCA
Thanks for the ping - Kriminals for Kerry bump!
58
posted on
10/11/2004 10:03:20 AM PDT
by
talleyman
(The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.)
To: esryle
Next we'll hear about the illegals and the dead registered to vote courtesy of demoncRAT party.
59
posted on
10/11/2004 10:22:38 AM PDT
by
lilylangtree
(Veni, Vidi, Vici)
To: kpp_kpp
Is anyone starting to see the wisdom of this country's founders when the original voting block was "property owners"? Politically correct or not, this was absolutely right. In order to preserve the integrity of the political system, voters must be informed on the issues and have a stake in the system.
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posted on
10/11/2004 10:23:35 AM PDT
by
Prince Caspian
(Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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