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Truth Stranger Than 'Strangelove'
NY Times ^ | October 10, 2004 | FRED KAPLAN

Posted on 10/09/2004 6:51:06 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

"Fact based?" Typical New York Times. I guess they really did run that story on "a doomsday device" that will "destroy all human and animal life".


21 posted on 10/09/2004 7:21:10 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: JW Brown

If you look closely at the Strangelove "survival kit" scene, you'll note that although Picken's says "...a pretty good weekend in Vegas" on the soundtrack, his actual words were "...a pretty good weekend in Dallas." The scene was shot before Kennedy was assasinated in Dallas. It was felt (rightly so, in my opinion) that Dallas would have not been a particulaly funny punchline under the circumstances, so the line was redubbed before release to the theaters.


22 posted on 10/09/2004 7:23:23 PM PDT by Harpo Speaks
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To: mr. mojo risin

I think I will rent it again for my Sunday afternoon entertainment.


23 posted on 10/09/2004 7:24:02 PM PDT by Ronin (When the fox gnaws....SMILE!)
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To: neverdem

Hopefully they're cleaning up the film to remove blemishes and whatnot, particularly the first scenes that were from messy stock footage.


24 posted on 10/09/2004 7:24:39 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Jhensy
Actually, I thought Fail Safe was almost as funny as Strangelove (unintentionally so).
25 posted on 10/09/2004 7:27:11 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: neverdem

"Animals can be bred, unt Slauuuughtered!"


26 posted on 10/09/2004 7:29:59 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: JW Brown
You know, Slim Pickens originally said "Dallas", but people where still too shook up by the Kennedy assassination so they dubbed in "Vegas".

That little phrase book/bible has to be the funniest thing ever, but the whole movie is a riot.

27 posted on 10/09/2004 7:30:11 PM PDT by Batrachian
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To: neverdem

I had not seen this movie until this week on TCM. I agree with all the comments here about how good and bad the film is. It has its moments but it also gets pretty stupid.

I thought I would fall out of my chair when George C Scott was arguing with the president and walking backwards in the war room when he tripped over his own feet and fell, did a roll and came up still talking. The stance he struck on getting up almost killed me--sort of like "ta-daaa."

Very funny scene.


28 posted on 10/09/2004 7:31:02 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey
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To: neverdem

Great movie. It was on TCM this afternoon but had to endure it being introduced by John Edwards who blathered about proliferation etc. I guess Ted Turner is doing what he can for John*2 .


29 posted on 10/09/2004 7:31:27 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: neverdem

What frizzed my hair was when it dawned on me that Gen. Ripper was mad. Hayden did a flawless transition from a tough-talking general into a lunatic. He later praised the film editors, saying that he was half drunk when he did the scene and amid all the retakes, they got that Sterling (ahem) performance.

Another realistic touch was using the hand held camera during the attack on the base - gave it a "you are there" feeling.

Could it have actually happened? Don't think so. If they were able to receive a recall code then they also could have received a code to blow up the plane - I'll bet that was another unknown - a self-destruct device that could be activated by headquarters in case some pilot went nuts.

And who can forget Sgt. Bat Guano (Keenan Wynn).


30 posted on 10/09/2004 7:33:02 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: Professional Engineer; neverdem

One of my top 10 movies!

Major T. J. "King" Kong : Survival kit contents check. In them you'll find: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.

General "Buck" Turgidson : Mr. President, we cannot allow a mineshaft gap!

31 posted on 10/09/2004 7:34:20 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Earn cash in your spare time - blackmail your friends.)
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To: plantone

I saw it again Saturday night. The print looked darker than usual. As far as the host's snide remark; what'd you think you'd get from Turner Broadcasting a month before the election ?


32 posted on 10/09/2004 7:35:55 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: plantone

Maybe they'll run "Old Yeller" after Bush wins November 2nd and have the outgoing Democrat senator from South Dakota do the intro...


34 posted on 10/09/2004 7:55:44 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: neverdem

A child and adult of The Cold War. I saw Kubrick's classic, 'Dr. Strangelove' many times when it opened at ten years old.

The cast, plot, believeable sets, comedy, biting satire that I'd no problem understanding grabbed me then and is still on my personal Top 10 films.

What set the hook was the authenticity of the B-52 piloted by Slim Pickens. I've no idea how he managed to get the correct look and feel of the huge aircraft. Or managed to film within its confines. That secret died after the film was completed and the sets were destroyed.

Kubrick couldn't have asked for a better cast! Sellers was phenominal as Mandrake, Muffley and Dr. Strangelove. He'd also been cast to pilot the B-52, buy Slim Pickens became available and a classic was born!

George C. Scott performed flawlessly. As did Sterling Hayden in his lampoon of Curtis E. LeMay. Keenan Wynn (Maj.'Bat' Guano)brought the theater down when he blasted the Coke machine and got sprayed in the face.

I'll definitely be in line when the 40th Anniversary DVD hits the market!

Jack.


36 posted on 10/09/2004 8:12:32 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Mostly Harmless)
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To: neverdem
Absolutely the best black comedy of all time.

"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the WAR room!"

37 posted on 10/09/2004 8:14:07 PM PDT by George Smiley (The only 180 that Kerry hasn't done is the one that would release ALL his military records.)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey
"I thought I would fall out of my chair when George C Scott was arguing with the president and walking backwards in the war room when he tripped over his own feet and fell, did a roll and came up still talking. The stance he struck on getting up almost killed me--sort of like "ta-daaa."

It was like "ta-daaa". Scott actually tripped and kept speaking his lines. Kubrick liked the take and kept it in.
38 posted on 10/09/2004 8:16:58 PM PDT by beaver fever
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Also in the last scene Sellers forgot his lines and stood up out of the wheelchair and shouted, "Mein Fuhrer! I can valk!" Total add lib. Kubrick kept that in too and abandoned the pie fight as a result.


39 posted on 10/09/2004 8:21:59 PM PDT by beaver fever
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To: SAMWolf

LOL! I used to do this bit after watching the movie with my Dad. Best line from the film. That and Major Bat Guano threatening Peter Sellars that 'he'll have to answer to the Coca Cola Company' for shooting the coke machine.


40 posted on 10/09/2004 8:22:13 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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