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LIVE THREAD: Post-Debate Cheney v. Edwards ^ | October 5, 2004

Posted on 10/05/2004 7:38:10 PM PDT by Howlin

After-debate discussion here!

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To: Howlin

Did you notice how Edwards kept refering to the American people watching "Television" They know they have the MSM in their pocket and they aren't afraid to point it out.

But Mr Cheney still kicked butt !

421 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:11 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Want to know why I don't vote Democrat?"
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To: gswilder
Ever hear a 13 yr. old liberal brat? I just did. She was a call in to C-Span by the totally brainwashed girl it was unreal!!! She went on and on.."this is my education, this is my future...this is my choice.......I've been working very hard for Kerry and Edwards..." The poor creature was just as pathetic sounding as your most died in wool elderly brain dead liberal. you had to hear it.
422 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:13 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota
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To: tame

tame, I heard that, too. MSNBC gave raving reviews to Cheney.

Heck Andrea Mitchell said that Cheney's remark about just meeting Edwards tonight was devastating for Edwards!

423 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:15 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: HRoarke
++++I always go to MSNBC to see reactions on these because they are reliably the worst case scenario for +++

You should have gone to CBS. They had a poll showing Edwards up by 13 %. Total SHills

424 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:16 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: NYURepublican

In the last few minutes Cheney has come up 7 points and edwards down 7 at msnbc

425 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:21 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

Kerry's idea for a ban on the bunker busters was, to me, the most shocking idea he has had yet. I thought much more would have been made about that, but there has been almost no mention of it.

426 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:23 PM PDT by tazannie
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To: alnick

Please explain the "Senator Gone" thing. (I had to work during most of the debate.)

427 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Bush Democrats = Zell's Angels)
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To: Happygal
Edwards showed inexperience, and self-indulgence

He looked like the punk that he is.

428 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:26 PM PDT by riri
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To: Happygal

Cheney bowled me over.
I expected arrogance from him in advance of the debate and saw measured responsibility.

Edwards showed inexperience, and self-indulgence.

Same old same old.

Bush-Cheney: Leadership, Courage, Decision

Kerry-Edwards: Skillful Politicians posturing

Guess we will have to see if the American people can figure that out.

429 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:28 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
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To: Clemenza

"Kudos to Gwen Ifill for a job well done"

I have to agree, she did a spectacular job of being fair and firm. Much better than Leher.

430 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:35 PM PDT by ArmedNReady (Hide your Money and Your Guns if Kerry is Elected)
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To: Howlin

Cheney ruled, especially on directly answering the question asked. I thought Gywn asked very fair questions in a balanced way and Cheney nailed them. The Halliburton approach fell flat and Breck Girl looked like an idiot. The only area I thought Cheney dropped the ball was in the rebuttal to Edwards on the uniter/divider answer. Cheney answered the question directly by addressing the issue and not attacking Edwards, yet Edwards only attacked Cheney.
In the rebuttal, Cheney should have pointed out that Edward's response is the reason why there is such division; because people like Edwards and his party cannot do anything of substance, only attack attack attack without facts to back it up.

431 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:36 PM PDT by GOP_Muzik
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To: hole_n_one

>>I need everybody to log off of FR for a couple of hours so I can read some of these threads.<<

AMEN!! This joint's getting too clogged with traffic! ;-)

432 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:41 PM PDT by Humidston (Cheney cleaned the floor with that little GIRLY BOY Edwards!!!)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

From the commentary here tonight, I'd say Fox picks their issues to sound open-minded to the left, and that they decided since Cheney gave such a slam dunk performance that they could tilt toward Edwards a bit, because championing idiots has less effect during a vp debate than in numerous other circumstances.

433 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:41 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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To: Howlin
And the way he did it and why he did it were despicable.

He made it sound like he was concerned for Cheney's daughter when in fact he wanted to point out her sexual preference, I think in an attempt to disaffect some on the far right.

434 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:41 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Captainpaintball

"Is anyone watching Jackass on PMSNBC? Holy moly, Mush Mouth from Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids lives!"

I was hoping MSNBC would bring in a translator. Of course, since Jesse Jackson has been repeating the same lines for the last 25 years, what's the point?

435 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:47 PM PDT by CSM43 (President Bush, I'm standing with you!)
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To: Howlin
WOW! I will not be able to sleep tonight... I recorded it and will enjoy watching it again. Bulldog Cheney SHREDDED Hammy... I guess Ole' Hammy will be sleeping on the couch tonight! :)
436 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:52 PM PDT by doodledorf (17 year-old Conservative and Proud of it!!!)
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To: LSU Engineer

YES y thnloHE DID, I have haven't seen such a lopsided debate since the second Reagan Mondale debate in 1984

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To: alnick

Aren't they though. I can't believe Fred and Kristol gave the second half to Edwards.

>>Cici's spinning hard trying to downplay the damage done by Cheney with his line about tonight being the first time he's met Edwards.

And I cannot believe Mort and others on the panel claim to have been BORED by this debate. This debate was action-packed fun!<<

Do not worry they will change their views in a couple of days when the realize people think Cheney won. People I would not worry about those very dumb internet polls.

I heard on the radio that ABC polled people who watched the debate and 43% for Cheney, 35% for Edwards, %19 tie.

438 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:58 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: rolling_stone

don't know if you get it, but cspan is replaying.

439 posted on 10/05/2004 8:25:00 PM PDT by easonc52
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To: rwfromkansas

>> I heard perhaps a CBS poll showed Edwards way ahead, but am not sure.

Dan Rather is desperate. He is reaching the end of his rope in his endeavor to destroy the Bush Administration and help his marxist buddies resume power.

440 posted on 10/05/2004 8:25:08 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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