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LIVE THREAD: Post-Debate Cheney v. Edwards ^ | October 5, 2004

Posted on 10/05/2004 7:38:10 PM PDT by Howlin

After-debate discussion here!

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To: Clemenza
Kudos to Gwen Ifill for a job well done.

I agree. She was tough on both of them. I actually winced a few times at the questions that the Breck Girl got. Much better than Lehrer, IMO.
221 posted on 10/05/2004 8:03:32 PM PDT by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours!)
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To: pabianice

"MSNBC is calling it for Edwards, 3 to 1."

Get Out!

222 posted on 10/05/2004 8:03:47 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions~$1.00 Todays Special: Halfbaked~50. cents)
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To: mcgiver38
Chrissy and company want to marry Cheney. Who knew?

Scarborough just used "GRAVITAS" in a sentence.

Chrissy sez Breck looked slapped.

223 posted on 10/05/2004 8:03:56 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: shield

I thought it was great that Cheney didn't always take the opportunity for a 30-second reply. It makes it seem like he knows something and doesn't feel like sharing right now. It makes him seem mysterious...

224 posted on 10/05/2004 8:04:08 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Mary Jane Cahill, who used to be Kerry's campaign manager, but who's now in charge of raising money to pay for recounts...on Fox, unable to answer why Edwards rarely showed up in the senate. Instead said she'd been there a lot and never had seen Cheney, but she had trouble getting that lie out of her mouth and it showed.

225 posted on 10/05/2004 8:04:22 PM PDT by hershey
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To: cajungirl
Cici Connelly tried to suggest, outside of anything mentioned during the debate, that the Tuesday Senate circumstances were "lunches," as opposed to Senate sessions. She was spinning like a top, and implicitly recognizing that Edwards was at a low on that issue.


226 posted on 10/05/2004 8:04:30 PM PDT by holden
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To: Howlin; lara; onyx; shield; DaughterofEve; All

You know what is surprising? the Hardball crew on PMSNBC has a FAR more accurate understanding than the Fox "All Stars" of just how bad Edwards lost.

227 posted on 10/05/2004 8:04:43 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Howlin

I can't stand CeCe Connelly on FOX - why do they have her?

228 posted on 10/05/2004 8:04:51 PM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (God Bless America!)
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To: Lil'freeper
Brokaw sez it's too soon to call this one.

Hint: It's just a debate... not election nite.

229 posted on 10/05/2004 8:04:59 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: rundy

What are you talking about?
Even Chris Matthews is saying it was a blowout!
He opened this hour by saying Cheney was like a bear hunting a squirrel!
He said Edwards' reaction shots looked like someone who had been slapped repeatedly!

230 posted on 10/05/2004 8:05:05 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee (We could make up the news on FR, but we'd RATHER not!)
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To: Freepdonia

Here is the web-site that Cheney referred to in the Halliburton slap-down.

231 posted on 10/05/2004 8:05:08 PM PDT by BRITinUSA
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To: woodyinscc
I was trapped somewhere between post 2500 and 3500

You made it man! You're a real survivor!
232 posted on 10/05/2004 8:05:13 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: plain talk

Have to agree that comment about meeting edwards for the first time when he walked on the stage will go down in history as a classic!!!!

233 posted on 10/05/2004 8:05:26 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: armymarinemom

I remember when clinton was running against dole. All the right wingers were loading the polls--they found comfort in rigging a poll to say they were going to win. The loser has more motivation to spend time on rigging polls. I know I was one of the fools that voted several times for Dole. But I've not yet completed an online poll this election cycle (that I can remember). However, I did complete a zogby poll when they called me :-)

234 posted on 10/05/2004 8:05:31 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Xcoastie

Tonight's debate was equivalent to Cheney putting Edwards over his knees and giving him a good ass-whipping. I am so proud of Cheney right now. I knew he would mop the floor with Edwards.

235 posted on 10/05/2004 8:05:34 PM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: LongsforReagan
"I almost broke out the violins during Edwards' closing remarks. His dad learning math on TV??

That cracked me up too. He would come down to the warm glow of the television set, his Dad watching math on Sesame street. Its the modern, electronic version of the pioneer's hearth.

I had to laugh at Edward's plan to control legal costs by having lawyers police themselves. Talk about the fox guarding the hen house. I've seen how badly a lawyer has to screw up to get a serious sanction by the bar committees. Are they really going to cut off all frivolous suits and kick a lawyer out after three? No way!

236 posted on 10/05/2004 8:05:59 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Remember Beslan -- the face of Islam)
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To: Howlin

The only comment I have is on the issue of a 'Divided Country'. Bush needs to prepare an answer along the lines of, "years of liberal judges" .. "making laws the public disagrees with" .."gay marriage, etc" .. that's what's diving this country ...

237 posted on 10/05/2004 8:06:05 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Kill Babies NOT Terrorists - Kerry '04)
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To: Howlin

I almost felt sorry for Eddie when he mentioned Kerry twice when he wasn't supposed to. He wasn't even answering the original question. He was on total defense from Cheney's reponse. I couldn't bare to watch that segment. How embarrassing.

238 posted on 10/05/2004 8:06:14 PM PDT by Crispy
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To: Howlin; KJacob
KJacobs- I am reposting my reply to you on the other thread over here about my opinion. :)

Thanks for the compliment! :) I did not see all of it, but I think that Cheney carried it. I thought that Edwards looks a little bit like a court jester (that grin! yikes!)- he was too informal and although Mort Kondrake is now saying that Cheney sounded "old", I think it has to do with intelligence and seriousness. This is not a laughing matter and I think that Edwards laughing and looking like a goof when he made the mistakes about mentioning John Kerry's name in that one question did not put him in a good light. I don't want a goofball a "heartbeat away."

Cheney might be dry, but he's extremely smart and I think that came across tonight- Edwards looked like a smarmy trial lawyer, talking around the questions.

We are post 9/11. Pretty boys are no longer going to be able to enamor soccer moms that have turned into security moms. Who is going to hunt down the terrorists and kick their A? Not goofball boy.

And I'd still like to know how Edwards pulled out a Cleveland statistic out of nowhere.

239 posted on 10/05/2004 8:06:15 PM PDT by lawgirl (I like knowing where my President is every night- at home in bed with his wife!)
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To: Howlin


240 posted on 10/05/2004 8:06:20 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA (Armed with what? ''SPITBALLS'' Zell Miller)
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