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IS IRAN NEXT? > Putting Syria into Perpetual Check
American Digest ^ | September 28, 2004 | Staff

Posted on 09/28/2004 3:45:52 PM PDT by AWestCoaster

President Bush using coy wording during Bill O'Reilly interview when asked about Iran and nukes:

O’REILLY: Would you allow Iran to develop a nuclear weapon? PRESIDENT BUSH: We, we are working our hearts out so that they don’t develop a nuclear weapon, and the best way to do so is to continue to keep international pressure on them.

O’REILLY: Is it conceivable that you would allow them to develop a nuclear weapon?

PRESIDENT BUSH: Uh, no, we’ve made it clear. Our position is that they won’t have a nuclear weapon.

O’REILLY: Period.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Yeah.

To take on Iran it is first necessary to put Syria in check. With diplomatic and military moves by United States and Isreal, that is what is being done.

Most of the headlined diplomatic news out of Syria this week centered on the diplomatic statements of American's chief diplomat, Colin Powell who said, as he should, "The conversations I had with the Syrians this week did not clear up all of the outstanding issues that we have with the Syrians, but I found it to be more positive than the earlier conversations I'd had."

This focus on a pull-quote from Colin Powell obscures the more draconian messages given to Syria by the United States during the talks.

In a more detailed report via the Defense Department's DefenseLINK news services we learn these other details:

The U.S. delegation to Damascus meeting gave the government of President Bashar Asad a very blunt warning about Syria's actions undercutting what the United States is trying to accomplish in Iraq. "It's not just a question of border control," said the senior government official on background. "Institutions within Syria are actively colluding with our enemies in Iraq."

... "Our message to Syria was a warning that this is very serious. Because this means Syria shares responsibility for the killing of Americans and Iraqis, and it has to stop."

.... The official said that pressure on Syria is growing over this situation. "If Americans are dying in Iraq because of Syrian policies, then this is something we are not going to tolerate.

"An Iraq that is successful from our point of view may not be what they want," he continued. "Our job is to convince them that the risk of undermining us is much greater than the opposite." -- DefenseLINK News: Syria-U.S. Relationship Facing 'Major Deterioration'

Subtext: "Seal your borders and stop the flow of terrorists into Iraq or either we or Isreal will deal with you. Maybe both. We don't want to have to say this again."

To underscore this, the news of deeds rather than words in Syria was less diplomatic. Most notable was the killling of the terrorist Izzadin Sheik Khalil with a car bomb in the middle of Damascus. Although officially denied, the consensus of all reports is that Isreali forces set up and carried out the assassination. That this operation happened at the same time Syria was receiving what amounted to an ultimatum from the United States can be seen as coincidental or deliberate. Either way, the message is the same.

When accused of this by Syria, Isreal's response was:

Israel accused Syria yesterday of 'directing terrorism' and said it could face pre-emptive strikes against 'militants' on its territory, but stopped short of saying it killed a Hamas leader in Damascus. -- Israel Threatens Syria With Pre-Emptive Strike

Thus the official Israeli position is "Not only will we strike at terrorists in Syria, we already have."

The US State Department today supported the Israeli position at Spokesman Adam Ereli's Daily Press Briefing . Under repeated questioning Ereli not only refused to condemn the Israeli assassination but would not even acknowledge it. Instead he reiterated the US position as:

I think what we do know is that there are terrorist organizations and terrorist individuals operating out of Syria with the support and connivance of the Government of Syria, and that this is not in the interests of peace... State Department Press Briefing- On Killing of Hamas Leader in Damascus

Thus we see Syria, within a week, presented with both words and deeds that put it on notice that its days of faciliating terrorism are numbered. But although the weapon is being pointed at Syria, the target is Iran.

With the problem of Iran becoming a nuclear power foremost in the minds of all those directing the Terrorist War, it is becoming increasingly evident that, absent some miracle, an air/ground military intervention into Iran will become a necessity in 2005. Having established a pervasive and well-supplied system of bases in Iraq the United States is in a position to launch such an intervention should it become necessary. It is, however, a tactical necessity to take Syria out of the equation before that time.

To heighten the chances a successful engagement in Iran, it becomes essential that Syria be neutralized first. When attacking one enemy you do not want to have another at your back. At the very least it would cause you to split your forces; a military situation to be avoided if at all possible. This goal can be achieved by placing the force at your rear in perpetual check before attacking the primary enemy.

In chess, perpetual check essentially forces a draw in the game. Syria does not lose since it lives to fight another day, but it does not win since it is inhibited from making moves that continue to distract the United States from stabilizing Iraq and being able to bring force to bear on Iran.

In the multi-demensional chessboard of war, it is enough that Syria be effectively immobilized by the threat of attack from Isreal and the United States, as well as international sanctions which have already been put into play through the United Nations.

To achieve such an immobilization it is necessary to convince the Asad government that the game it has been playing is no longer worth the candle. Demonstrations of this are what we saw and heard in Damascus over the past week.

One of the benefits of the military success in Iraq is that no country in the Middle East presently wants to be next on the list, with the possible exception of Iran which is playing the most dangerous game. With Syria in perpetual check, the position of Iran becomes that much less tenable and the possibilty for a non-military settlement of Iran's nuclear weapons program increases.

In the first weeks after 911, a central tenet of the new policy towards terror articulated by President Bush is that nations would be judged on the basis of "whether you are for us or against us," and dealt with accordingly. This week it was encouraging to see events unfold that seemed to underscore this position anew.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; bush43; iran; israel; nuclear; o8217; reilly; syria; war

1 posted on 09/28/2004 3:45:53 PM PDT by AWestCoaster
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To: AWestCoaster
Over at DU they are saying that Iran has no nuclear site because an unnamed diplomat analyzed the soil and found no radioactivity. Its all a lie by Bush. Reality is Iran is playing at a dangerous game that it stands no chance of winning unless Bush is no longer president. JFK can be defeated. JFK must be defeated. JFK will be defeated. I actually didn't think of that one myself; I must credit an obscure soldier, Blackjack Pershing.
2 posted on 09/28/2004 4:20:47 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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To: AWestCoaster
Interesting article but I can't see us invading Iran with our present troop levels without Nato being very involved and I'm far from convinced that could ever happen. I actually see Syria as a more likely target. In particular after what they did in Sudan with chemical weapons.

My thoughts are that Syria would be next on the list. They presently have weapons of mass destruction (including Iraq's more then likely), and the country has been a major supplier of terrorists to Iraq and I don't know that they could guard they're borders well enough to stop people from crossing. Also they are the last frontier of the Baath party and the failed experiment in Arab nationalism. Most mid-east countries would be happy to see that government go down.

There are way to many negatives involved with attacking Iran.

1. Large amounts (particularly the young) of Iranians despise the present hard-line Islamic government.

2. Iran's government is based on Islamic fundamentalist laws. Attacking them would be seen as attacking all of Islam and would have a very serious destabilizing effect on countries like Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt which is something we can't afford.

3. As I said above we don't have near the forces to be able to accomplish that sort of attack.

What should ultimately done with Iran is to cut off their trade and destabilize the government which is something we would probably have an easier time getting support for.

As for their nuke production I'm not sure there's any way that we'll be able to stop that from happening without igniting a battle we aren't ready for. In order for that to happen we need a couple of years at the least and they'll have a bomb well before then.
3 posted on 09/28/2004 4:24:39 PM PDT by whershey (www.worldwar4.net)
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To: AWestCoaster

This is good news. Iraq won't know peace until Syria and Iran learn the facts of life. A really courageous move in the War on Terror would be to allow Israel to get into the fray. Nothing would communicate U.S. resolve more.


4 posted on 09/28/2004 4:31:30 PM PDT by DC Bound ("Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword." Khomeini)
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To: whershey
Interesting article but I can't see us invading Iran with our present troop levels

If the goal, at least near term, is to deny Iran the bomb, do we need to invade?

Just a guess mind you, but I suspect we and a few other friendlies, have assets inside Iran and if Iran is as close to the bomb as reports indicate, then those assets along with some well place cruise missles would probably be put into play.

The question remains; what happens afterwards?

5 posted on 09/28/2004 4:36:49 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: whershey

It may not be our aim to put a boot on the ground in Iran, if they decide to bankrupt their economy in the fruitless hope of ginning up enough of a defense posture to somehow get us to stay our hand.

Internal destabilization, as you propose, combined with the fear of a U.S. military response may be what tips Iran off the bearing point and into defeat. All without us having to fire a shot :-)


6 posted on 09/28/2004 4:37:47 PM PDT by BigKahuna
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To: whershey
As for their nuke production I'm not sure there's any way that we'll be able to stop that from happening without igniting a battle we aren't ready for. In order for that to happen we need a couple of years at the least and they'll have a bomb well before then

I like your first points--but you pose the biggest question yourself. If we take out Syria first, how do we end the Iranian nuke threat within a couple of months? Unless it could be handled with air strikes targeted on nuke facilities only, leaving the regime change for later--but then we would have to expect an Iranian counterattack. My view is we have a lethal force sitting idle a few hundred miles away: Israel. Let them take Iran while we mop up Syria and prepare for any muslim firestorm that will follow.

7 posted on 09/28/2004 4:39:57 PM PDT by DC Bound ("Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword." Khomeini)
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To: DC Bound
That's my point is we're stuck between a rock and a hard place. We can't attack Iran while Iraq is not stabilized, we've made much more aggressive diplomatic efforts and we have a lot more troops and by the time all that happens Iran will have their nuke already. There's at least one thing we may be able to do to slow them down short of destroying the facilities which would basically mean all out war. The main supplier of parts for these facilities has been the Russians. That aid is suspected of including scientists and technicians. If they haven't done so already they need to be told in no uncertain terms that if they are serious about fighting terror they need to cut that aid off.
8 posted on 09/28/2004 5:06:55 PM PDT by whershey (www.worldwar4.net)
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To: whershey

I think the only allies we could trust to do what they agreed to do are Australia and Great Britain. I wouldn't call Putin an enemy, but I wouldn't take his word, either. We don't have the time to "trust but verify". Maybe dumping a bunch of money to the students in Iran, air strikes on nuke facilities, and simultaneos takedown of the Syrian regime could get something done.

Or, we could just go to the UN.


9 posted on 09/28/2004 5:13:52 PM PDT by DC Bound ("Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword." Khomeini)
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To: AWestCoaster

If we furnish the Iranians with arms, they'll be able to "take out their own trash!"

Now Syria is another issue.

If we say "BOOO", Syria will probably piss all over herself

However if the Syrians and other assorted felons in Damascus get a bad case of stupidity; then we'll just have to make a pit stop on our way home from Iraq and with Turkey, Jordan and Israel as a backstop; we'll squeeze Syria like a pimple!!!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


10 posted on 09/28/2004 5:29:05 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi Travis,http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: crazyhorse691
Over at DU they are saying that Iran has no nuclear site because an unnamed diplomat analyzed the soil and found no radioactivity..

Like the 'lies' in the satellite pics, and follow-up shots of it being buried?

11 posted on 09/28/2004 5:43:05 PM PDT by AWestCoaster (Immigration>No other nation in history has voluntarily adopted policies leading to self-destruction)
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To: AWestCoaster

They are not sane over there at DU, we all know that. I think its the fungus they eat.


12 posted on 09/28/2004 5:51:07 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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To: kellynla

Syria will most likely pull a Lybia to save their own necks and give us Saddam's WMDs once we go after Iran. Hopefully this will all take place between now and election day : )


13 posted on 09/28/2004 5:56:15 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Debate THIS, Lurch!)
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