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Jimmy Carter’s Trail of Disaster
Newsmax | May 13, 2002 | Christopher Ruddy

Posted on 09/23/2004 5:43:23 PM PDT by The Real Indepman

It's [k]eerie, Carter's failed Iran policy seems to be the template for the Kerry Iraq plan...

"Remember Carter's human rights program, where he demanded the Shah of Iran step down and turn over power to the Ayatollah Khomeini?

No matter that Khomeini was a madman. Carter had the U.S. Pentagon tell the Shah's top military commanders – about 150 of them – to acquiesce to the Ayatollah and not fight him.

The Shah's military listened to Carter. All of them were murdered in one of the Ayatollah's first acts.

By allowing the Shah to fall, Carter created one of the most militant anti-American dictatorships ever.

Soon the new Iranian government was ransacking our embassy and held hostage its staff for over a year. Only President Reagan's election gave Iran the impetus to release the hostages.

I believe Carter's decision to have the Shah fall is arguably the most egregious U.S. foreign policy mistake of the last 50 years. [Former President Bush's decision to allow Saddam Hussein to stay in power is a close second.]

With the Shah gone, the whole region was destabilized. The Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan; no doubt a direct link to the rise of the Taliban can be traced to this invasion. Iraq also took advantage of the Shah's departure to invade Iran. A long war followed that helped make Saddam's Iraq a great Middle Eastern power.

And decades after Carter's ignominious act, Iran is still bent on destroying America. President Bush named it one of the three nations in the "axis of evil." Iran is developing both nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver these weapons to its enemies.

We can thank Jimmy Carter for all of this."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christopherruddy; jimmycarter; kerrorism; subliberalism

1 posted on 09/23/2004 5:43:24 PM PDT by The Real Indepman
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To: The Real Indepman

Jimmie Carter is the hero of the left.


2 posted on 09/23/2004 5:45:15 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: The Real Indepman
We can thank Jimmy Carter for all of this."

So True. But you are only looking at the empty half of the glass.

The good news is that because Jimmy Carter was so incompetent we had the great fortune to elect Ronald Reagan who ended the Cold War. So, in his own way, the Inspector Clueso way, Carter helped end the Cold War

3 posted on 09/23/2004 5:48:36 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: The Real Indepman

He was the WORST.


4 posted on 09/23/2004 5:49:51 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: The Real Indepman
According to the TV announcers, the former Pres is at the Braves game tonight. They noted that is was ironic that he was in the owner's box ...

on the right side of the field.

5 posted on 09/23/2004 5:51:07 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (Unemployed people should forfeit their right to vote.)
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To: gitmo
Jimmie Carter is the hero of the left.

as he should be.

jimmuh does yeoman's work to advance world socialism... just recently, he bailed out chavez, a.k.a. "castro - the sequel". he ranks up there with stalin in increasing the power and influence of Communism in the world.

that he would win the nobel peace prize is no accident...

6 posted on 09/23/2004 5:54:33 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: The Real Indepman
I had forgotten about this debacle until I read this.

I am angry all over again.

Not to mention the Panama Canal and the botched rescue.

7 posted on 09/23/2004 5:55:37 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Cold Heat

Didn't he pardon all the draft dodgers too??
And cancel the B1 bomber?


8 posted on 09/23/2004 5:57:42 PM PDT by Shellback Chuck (Olongapo hookers are more truthful than Kerry)
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To: Cold Heat

Jimmy Carter, the first communist president.


9 posted on 09/23/2004 5:59:10 PM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: The Real Indepman

And let us not forget his "intervention" along with that other Dem paragon of corruption, venality, insincerity and cowardice , Klintoon in North Korea in 1994 , which has led to North Korea now having nuclear weapons


10 posted on 09/23/2004 6:03:25 PM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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To: The Real Indepman

Carturd is a limp wrist.


11 posted on 09/23/2004 6:04:30 PM PDT by KillTime
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To: The Real Indepman

We can thank Jimmah Carturd for Robert Mugagbe and his reign of death in Zimbabwe/Rhodesia. Also, add Andrew Young to that list. And thank Jimmah Carturd for Mugabe's recent speech in the UN vilifying thr US for its action the Iraq and the world.


12 posted on 09/23/2004 6:10:24 PM PDT by Khurkris (Proud Scottish/HillBilly - I am grumpy today...I may stay grumpy for a while.)
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To: The Real Indepman

And he did all this in just one term. Thank goodness, Reagan beat him.


13 posted on 09/23/2004 6:10:42 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: The Real Indepman
Jimmy Carters legacy?

Midwife to Islamofascism.

14 posted on 09/23/2004 6:11:46 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask the country what it will do for you!)
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To: The Real Indepman

15 posted on 09/23/2004 6:12:04 PM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: KillTime

I know the guy who Briefed Carter when he visited Korea the first time after being elected. He went to Seoul with the intention of Pulling us out UNILATERALLY. Leaving the ROK forces holding the bag.

Fortunately, after all the generals showed him what a FREAKING moronic thing it would be and what a disaster it would be, he had the sense to renege on that intention.

He is an ABSOLUTE low-grade imbecile.


16 posted on 09/23/2004 6:12:40 PM PDT by Only_Warlock
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To: The Real Indepman
Truthful commentary and points.

Bttt

17 posted on 09/23/2004 6:14:24 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: The Real Indepman
[Former President Bush's decision to allow Saddam Hussein to stay in power is a close second.]

Wrong, it was not Bush I's decision, he was merely following orders from the stupid UN resolution that only called for Iraqi forces to be driven out of Kuwait.

18 posted on 09/23/2004 6:16:38 PM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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To: The Real Indepman

The Hostage Rescue Attempt In Iran, April 24-25, 1980

Evidence Jimmy Carter abandoned the Shah


http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/id24.html


19 posted on 09/23/2004 6:19:25 PM PDT by RaceBannon (KERRY FLED . . . WHILE GOOD MEN BLED!!)
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To: The Real Indepman

That Terrorist/Communist loving Psychopath should be in Prison for the rest of his life.


20 posted on 09/23/2004 6:30:49 PM PDT by Fast1 (Kerry for an Islamic America.)
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To: The Real Indepman
When Mount St. Helens erupted, Jimmy Carter wanted to put it out. He wanted bombers to fly over the volcano and drop money. He was convinced that if enough money was dropped, it would put out the volcano.

Then it would be known as the MAGMA CARTER.:)
21 posted on 09/23/2004 6:41:06 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rather calls Saddam "Mister President" and calls President Bush "bush")
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To: The Real Indepman

"Yeah but.... He's a Nobel laureate!" ( I can hear the RATs intoning that mantra now). In my estimation, Carter is one of our worst presidents ever, and in some respects he is worse than Klintoon, and that's terrible.


22 posted on 09/23/2004 6:42:37 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: The Real Indepman

Carter is without question our worst Ex-President.


23 posted on 09/23/2004 6:47:08 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: The Real Indepman

If there was a president in our history that was worse than Jimmy Carter, please tell me who it would be. I can't think of anyone that idiotic. If I went to the history of other countries I don't think I could find anyone that stupid.Well Maybe France or Canada!


24 posted on 09/23/2004 6:52:55 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Ann Archy

He IS the worst.


25 posted on 09/23/2004 7:12:47 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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To: Paulus Invictus

So is their all-time super-duper superhero, Arafat.


26 posted on 09/23/2004 7:20:10 PM PDT by macrahanish #1
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To: The Real Indepman
You wrote "With the Shah gone, the whole region was destabilized. The Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan; no doubt a direct link to the rise of the Taliban can be traced to this invasion. Iraq also took advantage of the Shah's departure to invade Iran. A long war followed that helped make Saddam's Iraq a great Middle Eastern power."

For the most part you are correct in your written passage, except, most of the Shah's Generals were executed and the Iranian forces were left with no experienced battlefield commanders. Case in point: General Rabbi (sp?) and Lt. General Khourshadad were executed by Ayatollah Khomeini's revolutionary guard. Previous to 1976 there was a very brief war between Iran and Iraq in which Iraq backed down.The Ayatollah Khomeini had a great deal of help overthrowing the Shah and it just wasn't from Jimmie C. Many middle eastern fighters were there to take up positions within the cities and airports. Life magazine had pictures of the Shah's loyalists and military personnel being executed by people that were not Iranian.

Yes, we can thank Jimmie C. for the lost of protection afforded to us by him giving up Panama Canal.
27 posted on 09/23/2004 9:26:35 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: gitmo

I think Jimmy Carter is an angel from Hell!


28 posted on 09/23/2004 9:29:59 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: NY Attitude
AMERICA's war on terrorism did not begin in September 2001. It began in November 1979.

That was shortly after Ayatollah Khomeini had seized power in Iran, riding the slogan "Death to America" - and sure enough, the attacks on Americans soon began. In November 1979, a militant Islamic mob took over the U.S. embassy in Tehran, the Iranian capital, and held 52 Americans hostage for the next 444 days.

The rescue team sent to free those hostages in April 1980 suffered eight fatalities, making them the first of militant Islam's many American casualties. Others included:

April 1983: 17 dead at the U.S. embassy in Beirut.

October 1983: 241 dead at the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut.

December 1983: five dead at the U.S. embassy in Kuwait.

January 1984: the president of the American University of Beirut killed.

April 1984: 18 dead near a U.S. airbase in Spain.

September 1984: 16 dead at the U.S. embassy in Beirut (again).

December 1984: Two dead on a plane hijacked to Tehran.

June 1985: One dead on a plane hijacked to Beirut.

After a let-up, the attacks then restarted: Five and 19 dead in Saudi Arabia in 1995 and 1996, 224 dead at the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August 1998 and 17 dead on the USS Cole in Yemen in October 2000.

Simultaneously, the murderous assault of militant Islam also took place on U.S. soil:

July 1980: an Iranian dissident killed in the Washington, D.C. area.

August 1983: a leader of the Ahmadiyya sect of Islam killed in Canton, Mich.

August 1984: three Indians killed in a suburb of Tacoma, Wash.

September 1986: a doctor killed in Augusta, Ga.

January 1990: an Egyptian freethinker killed in Tucson, Ariz.

November 1990: a Jewish leader killed in New York.

February 1991: an Egyptian Islamist killed in New York.

January 1993: two CIA staff killed outside agency headquarters in Langley, Va.

February 1993: Six people killed at the World Trade Center.

March 1994: an Orthodox Jewish boy killed on the Brooklyn Bridge.

February 1997: a Danish tourist killed on the Empire State building.

October 1999: 217 passengers killed on an EgyptAir flight near New York City.

In all, 800 persons lost their lives in the course of attacks by militant Islam on Americans before September 2001 - more than killed by any other enemy since the Vietnam War. (Further, this listing does not include the dozens more Americans in Israel killed by militant Islamic terrorists.)

And yet, these murders hardly registered. Only with the events of a year ago did Americans finally realize that "Death to America" truly is the battle cry of this era's most dangerous foe, militant Islam.

In retrospect, the mistake began when Iranians assaulted the U.S. embassy in Tehran and met with no resistance.

Interestingly, a Marine sergeant present at the embassy that fateful day in November 1979 agrees with this assessment. As the militant Islamic mob invaded the embassy, Rodney V. Sickmann followed orders and protected neither himself nor the embassy. As a result, he was taken hostage and lived to tell the tale. (He now works for Anheuser-Busch.)

In retrospect, he believes that passivity was a mistake. The Marines should have done their assigned duty, even if it cost their lives. "Had we opened fire on them, maybe we would only have lasted an hour." But had they done that, they "could have changed history."

Standing their ground would have sent a powerful signal that the United States of America cannot be attacked with impunity. In contrast, the embassy's surrender sent the opposite signal - that it's open season on Americans. "If you look back, it started in 1979; it's just escalated," Sickmann correctly concludes.

To which one of the century's great geostrategist thinkers, Robert Strausz-Hupé, adds his assent. Just before passing away earlier this year at the age of 98, Strausz-Hupé wrote his final words, and they were about the war on terrorism: "I have lived long enough to see good repeatedly win over evil, although at a much higher cost than need have been paid. This time we have already paid the price of victory. It remains for us to win it."

Daniel Pipes is director of the Middle East Forum and author of "Militant Islam Reaches America."


29 posted on 09/23/2004 9:30:29 PM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Hands down , the worst US president EVER...


30 posted on 09/23/2004 9:33:33 PM PDT by omstrat (zip code)
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To: The Real Indepman
I think Carter's treaty with Korea, which allowed Korea years without nuclear weapons inspections was worse. However, we're still cleaning up Carter's screwups all over the world, and he's still criticizing every Republican in sight.

Carter was probably the worst three presidents in US history.

31 posted on 09/23/2004 9:38:51 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (Kerry Campaign: An army of pompous phrases moving across the landscape in search of an idea)
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To: Rome2000
Okay, as one that was there during the time frame of January 1977 through July 1979, I have seen these things first-hand. The revolution started before November 1978. The Shah departed Iran on December 16th, 1978 and the Ayatollah entered Iran in January of 1979. Roving crowds of pro Shah and Khomeini supporters were in the streets and many carried clubs. The trick was to know which group of supporters yo were dealing with. Because I had to drive to work I had to go through the various areas of supporters. It got exciting at times.
32 posted on 09/23/2004 9:46:07 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: The Real Indepman
I believe Carter's decision to have the Shah fall is arguably the most egregious U.S. foreign policy mistake of the last 50 years. [Former President Bush's decision to allow Saddam Hussein to stay in power is a close second. Former President Bush did not have the support from the coalition to go after Sadam.
33 posted on 09/23/2004 9:48:48 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: Shellback Chuck
The draft dodger pardon thing was his first official act, I believe.

And we can't forget double-digit inflation and the oil embargo leaving us with "odd/even" (first license plate digit determined what days you could buy petro) gas lines. Can you imagine the SUV soccer moms of today putting up with that under a Bush administration?

34 posted on 09/24/2004 12:09:37 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Why are we in Iraq? Just point the whiners here: http://www.massgraves.info)
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