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Bush Fell Short on Duty at Guard
Boston Globe ^ | Sept 8, 2004 | staff

Posted on 09/20/2004 5:34:08 PM PDT by wildbill

( Boston Globe Archives, 2004-09-08 ) In February, when the White House made public hundreds of pages of President Bush's military records, White House officials repeatedly insisted that the records prove that Bush fulfilled his military commitment in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: cabal; civilconspiracy; coincidence; ltbush; msm; plot; tang
On the same day at the CBS 60 Minutes Memogate story, the Boston Globe ran a similar story, claiming the same things but they claim they had their own source(s).

Clearly this was not a coincidence.

And how could another MSM heavyweight fail to check both the validity of the documents and their provenance.

The Globe, like USA Today, must come clean about their source(s). Are the sources "unimpeachable?"

The trail has to lead back to the Dems. Don't let them get away with it.

1 posted on 09/20/2004 5:34:09 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill

Couple this with the "Fortunate Son" Kerry campaign ads that came out the day after Rather's "60 Minutes" lies and I think even a Democrat should be able to see a connection. The Globe, NYTimes, CBS, LA Times etc. were all jumping on the same train to Delusionville. They should NOT be let off the hook by CBS's lame apology and "internal investigation." None of these partisan media outlets can be trusted.


2 posted on 09/20/2004 5:38:29 PM PDT by StrictTime ("Pajama Riot! I wanna riot! Pajama Riot! A riot of my own!")
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To: wildbill

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3 posted on 09/20/2004 5:39:26 PM PDT by Redcoat LI ("I am the great and powerful Kerry! Look at my medals!")
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To: wildbill
Too bad these Sh*t heads didn't watch Fox tonight.
Brit walked through the Prez's Guard duty year by year and month by month, driving the final nail into the coffin on these lies.
4 posted on 09/20/2004 5:39:45 PM PDT by grobdriver
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To: wildbill
Your links don't go to the rest of the article. Plus, this story was already posted on it's publishing date 9/8/04 at the links below:

HERE

AND HERE

5 posted on 09/20/2004 5:40:54 PM PDT by mass55th (It's the superscript, stupid!!!!)
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To: wildbill

None of these Bush/National Guard rants are worth a bucket of warm spit after Rathergate......This story is officially toast as of today. Rather's acknowledgement has made this a back page story.....unless of course the memos were typed by the DNC...then ...the election is over.


6 posted on 09/20/2004 5:41:14 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: wildbill

Byron York settled this hash on Hume's show on FNC tonight. Bush's first four years in the guard had him accumulatinmg way more than the 50 credits a year he needed. His last two years he accumulated 56. He left early because he'd met his credit requirement for that year. 'Nuff said.


7 posted on 09/20/2004 5:43:16 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: grobdriver

Using this article...http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200402180840.asp


8 posted on 09/20/2004 5:44:26 PM PDT by pookie18
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To: mewzilla

Also, the ANG had no more use for the numbers of pilots they had in the late 60s. By 72 the Air Force regulars were coming back from Nam. All of the CONUS backfill duty to protect our airspace from the Soviets and their allies could now be done by Air Force. Therefore, by '72 the ANG was discouraging ops by their airmen as a means of cost cutting. It was also a nice way of saying "your services are no longer needed, we have far too many warm bodies available." Bush wisely scaled back towards the end and thereby avoided flying a desk and being a drain on the system


9 posted on 09/20/2004 5:52:23 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: wildbill

OK, I don't like to be dismissive of issues of character, but really... who the **** cares?

The leftist media is chasing this story like a shark smelling blood and they don't even realize they're barking up the wrong tree.

The pursuit of this story is in reaction to perceived attacks against Kerry's service in Vietnam. But two facts are completely lost on the leftist press.

A) Bush isn't basing his presidential credentials on his military service over 30 years ago, Kerry is. And B) Bush has plenty enough credentials over the last four years to show he's worthy of being president.

Even if 30 years ago Bush has skipped Guard duty, drove drunk, used dope or whatever they want to try to smear him with, who really cares about that now?? Honestly. He's more than established his bona fides over the last four years. He's got an excellent record to run on and plenty of current leadership credentials, unlike Monsieur Kerry.

The fact that the leftist media keeps harping on a story with no traction whatsoever is endlessly amuzing to me. Almost reminds me of Wile E. Coyote... no matter what desperate measures he tries, he just can't catch the roadrunner. Just like the Dems trying to tarnish President Bush.

It's comical, literally.


10 posted on 09/20/2004 5:55:41 PM PDT by tdadams ('Unfit for Command' is full of lies... it quotes John Kerry)
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To: wildbill

That's so true. The Boston Globe has been right in the middle of all of this.


11 posted on 09/20/2004 5:57:06 PM PDT by Huck ("Winners don't need to hijack airplanes. Winners have an air force." --P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: mewzilla

Exactly! The media is still not only misrepresenting the facts regarding Bush's Guard service...they are implying that the time he missed was a result of him not wanting to serve in 'Nam. They are deliberately ignoring that Bush was putting in excess of 200+ points a year during the peak ('68-'71) of the Vietnam War, while the few months he missed were during the withdrawal.

They are also ignoring that during this wind-down, there was especially a surplus of pilots who were finding themselves behind desks...and in some cases, released from active duty. Hell, the war was almost over from America's perspective during these times in question. The fact that the media continues to misrepresent these details is evidence that they have not learned anything from the CBS ordeal.


12 posted on 09/20/2004 6:05:25 PM PDT by cwb (John Kerry: Still attacking Vietnam Vets after 35 years.)
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To: wildbill

Brit Hume just interviewed Byron York and he said that BUSH FULFILLED HIS COMMITMENT TO THE GUARD.

Bush was required to have at least 50 points every year to be in good standing. FOX showed a list of the President's points for each year he was in the guard - THE LOWEST AMOUNT THE PRESIDENT GOT WAS 56 POINTS IN ONE YEAR.

If people could see that list of the points Bush earned, there is no way they could say "BUSH FELL SHORT" - BUSH NEVER FELL SHORT AND I'M DAMN SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING PEOPLE SAY THAT.


13 posted on 09/20/2004 6:10:40 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: Redcoat LI

By all means try working their ombudsman.

But they will need prodding from some other media figures like columnists or Rush.

Anyone with a Rush membership should send him an email.


14 posted on 09/20/2004 6:14:11 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: mass55th

I KNOW it was posted before.

I don't want us to forget the Boston Globe and let them off scot free because everyone has its eye on C_BS.

We need to focus on every member of the MEDIA Plotters.


15 posted on 09/20/2004 6:15:44 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: GOP_1900AD

Pardon me, but you are missing my point.

I'm trying to remind everyone that this wasn't only CBS.

There was a concerted media push using these fake documents and the Boston Globe claimed they got them independently.

The issue isn't the veracity of the reports--its the plot by the media.


16 posted on 09/20/2004 6:18:22 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: tdadams
The leftist media is chasing this story like a shark smelling blood and they don't even realize they're barking up the wrong tree.

That's a perfect metaphor for the situation.

17 posted on 09/20/2004 6:20:15 PM PDT by anonymous_user (I CBS, You CBS, We ALL CBS.)
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To: wildbill

"Almost immediately after the story aired Sept. 8, document experts questioned memos purportedly written by Bush's late squadron leader, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, saying they appeared to have been created on a computer and not on the kind of typewriter in use during the 1970s.", boston.com

Buckhead, Document Expert


18 posted on 09/20/2004 6:22:02 PM PDT by vivabushchick (To ensure we never offend anyone--like fanatics intent on killing us--no profiling will be allowed.)
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To: Redcoat LI

I just sent this to the Globe. (Apologies to the Freeper that posted an article with a lot of these jokes in a fake forged letter - how'bout that - a fake forgery. Anyway, it was too good not to use to nail these MSM bastards between the eyes)



New information has surfaced about Bush's Guard service. Here's an excerpt:

"...Lt. Bush, while on duty, sits around all day surfing the net and playing Mario Bro-..uhh..Pong, which I think was out around back...now. Plus, his cell phone always goes off and he never refills the Mr. Coffee machine. He's a total drain on the ship's crew."

I got this on good authority from the same dude that gave the DNC and Max Cleland those other devastating documents. If you want the originals, please send a money order for $1 million to the Nigerian embassy in Washington DC, addressed to Ura Emasem Marune.


19 posted on 09/20/2004 6:23:13 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (The Left is smart enough to know the truth, but low enough not to care.)
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To: StrictTime
FYI, Tell the truth...FortunateSon_Redeux
20 posted on 09/20/2004 6:24:13 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: wildbill
"I KNOW it was posted before. "

Your links didn't go to the actual article, just the front page of the Globe online. Most people aren't going to go searching for where the rest of the article is, and you lose the point you're trying to make. It might have been easier if you'd just listed the title as a repost and then linked to the post by Freeper "alydar" since their links actually connect to the full article.

21 posted on 09/20/2004 6:24:32 PM PDT by mass55th (It's the superscript, stupid!!!!)
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To: wildbill

GRANT FLUNKED ENGLISH AT WEST POINT

Daguerreotypes at Eleven.


22 posted on 09/20/2004 6:33:00 PM PDT by Argus
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To: guitfiddlist

That will be on the front page of the Globe tomorrow.


23 posted on 09/20/2004 6:35:08 PM PDT by Redcoat LI ("I am the great and powerful Kerry! Look at my medals!")
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To: tdadams

"The pursuit of this story is in reaction to perceived attacks against Kerry's service in Vietnam. But two facts are completely lost on the leftist press. A) Bush isn't basing his presidential credentials on his military service over 30 years ago, Kerry is. And B) Bush has plenty enough credentials over the last four years to show he's worthy of being president."




Great points...and let me add C). Bush isn't responsible for the attacks on Kerry. In fact, this is now the third attack, this year, on Bush's ANG service, that began back in February. And unlike Bush who has had nothing but praise for Kerry's service...it was Kerry himself who not only questioned Bush's service, but also his "official" honorable discharge.

This media that is all upset about the SBVT attacks on Kerry, had nothing to say when Kerry directly attacked Bush's service months before, during the Democrat's primary. On the contrary, weere Kerry's "official" records were enough for the media to label the SBVT liars, it has been the media, itself, who has questioned Bush's "official" records, long before this got started, as they have demanded that Bush produce more records to "prove his innocence."

The fact that Kerry and his records have been given immunity from these charges, while we now have an admission that some in the media have been searching for this story against Bush for 5 years is enough evidence that the media is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party.

By the way...unlike the media that has been scrambling for over 5 years to find something on Bush, including using a dead Colonel as their source, they ignored a very living, Col. (Eugene Holmes) in 1992 who signed an affadavit calling Clinton a liar. If the issue here, as the media describes it, is the credibility and honesty of a president, than why did the media not only marginalize the actions of this draft dodger, but allow him to actually lie about the events involving his non-service in Vietnam.

Clinton wasn't just a draft-dodger; he was a man who lied on at least two occasions (which was a federal offense at that time) regarding his ROTC status...as he deliberately manipulated the system for his benefit. These same idiots who claim Bush got preferential treatment, ignored that Senator William Fullbright worked on Clinton's behalf to get him into the UArk ROTC as a university student...when Clinton had no intention of enrolling at U of A, as he went off to Oxford and later, Yale.

It's amazing to see the fraudulent sources the media is using to try and bring down this president, when they had documented evidence and eyewitness testimony that what Clinton did was much worse. And just as they are doing with Kerry, the media ignored the actions that Clinton was engaged in as our soliders were still figting and dying in Vietnam. The media is no longer just bias; they are outright advocates.


24 posted on 09/20/2004 6:45:20 PM PDT by cwb (John Kerry: Still attacking Vietnam Vets after 35 years.)
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To: wildbill
"First I picked Edwards BUT now I pick Hanoi Jane!"

Edwards played football in 1971 when he turned 18
instead of serving in Vietnam.
Hanoi Jane at least was a Viet Cong!
Just like me!

Hanoi Jane and I know how to demoralize US Troops serving today!
We hate US Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
We hate all US Troops!
We lie about them in 2004 the same as we did in the 60's and 70's!
We vow to protect the UN and the Oil for Food Scandal
We vow to keep secret the ties between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaida
We vow to free Saddam Hussein with help from our old friend Ramsey Clark.



John F. Kerry
Timeline of a traitor.
Click Here

READ THIS INTERVIEW THAT KERRY GAVE in 1970
KERRY GAVE AID AND COMFORT TO THE VIET CONG

Harvard Crimson : Kerry refused order to destroy Viet Cong village

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=352185

Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970
John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress

By SAMUEL Z. GOLDHABER

Crimson Staff Writer

"...One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village
but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command
simply send in a Psychological Warfare team to be
friend the villagers with food, hospital supplies,
and better educational facilities."



Hanoi Kerry and Hanoi Jane sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G



Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969:

"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope,
you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communist."


Joe Moore, Can Tho Airfield 550th Signal Company



25 posted on 09/20/2004 6:47:42 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Your picture of Hanoi Jane looked like TaRAYza. Somebody needs to post an active feature that shows Kerry with his Scumhag morphing into Fonda, entitled "Together At Last".


26 posted on 09/20/2004 7:10:07 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (The Left is smart enough to know the truth, but low enough not to care.)
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To: mewzilla
His last two years he accumulated 56.

each year..... We have to be so careful about what we say. A Rat could take your words and say W only accumulated 28 in each of his last two years. The leftist media doesn't want to know the facts about the need for far fewer pilots in 71 and 72 than earlier. That way they can continue their false attacks on President Bush. The MSM is really disgusting.

27 posted on 09/20/2004 7:11:26 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: wildbill

Help me with some logic here!

Kerry says repeatedly that when it came time to defend America he answered the call, but that Bush chose not to.

OK, let's think about this for a minute:

1. Kerry by his own admission thought the Vietnam war was an unjust and unnecessary war, that's one of the reasons he protested it after his brief stint in the military. It was the contention of the antiwar crowd that nothing about Vietnam was a threat to America.

2. He fought in Vietnam, so by his own reasoning he really did nothing to protect America.

3. George Bush was part of the force that protected America at the height of the cold war from a surprise nuclear attack by the Russians.

4. The service performed by George Bush was an important part of how America, the physical country itself, protected itself, 24/7 - 365.

5. So, while Kerry was over fighting with a vacuous enemy Mr. Bush was high in the skies over the homeland, ready to shoot down Russian bombers if they attacked.

6. Seems to me like Mr. Bush was doing a whole lot more to defend America than Mr. Kerry.

Where is my reasoning wrong?


28 posted on 09/20/2004 7:27:32 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: mass55th

You are absolutely right. I didn't realize you could post it as a repost.

And it's quite obvious that some people think this is a current post and are posting answers to the old article when what I really wanted to do was call attention to how the Boston Globe, CBS, USA Today and the KErry campaign all brought forth the same story.

There had to be collusion.


29 posted on 09/20/2004 7:28:35 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill

They like to think of themselves and their city, the Globe, as "the Hub." They're more like "the Butt." A once proud world-leading intellectual center descending into corrupt moral vacuity and flummery. Melville saw it coming.


30 posted on 09/20/2004 7:47:53 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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