Posted on 09/14/2004 5:33:10 PM PDT by Wil H
A caller to that pesky medium, Talk Radio, just made an excellent point regarding Rathergate.
Rather keeps claiming that the memos "could have been" created with 1972 technology but of course we all know that would have required a lino typesetter.
The caller to the Liddy and Hill show on KFYI in Phoenix suggested someone, under an FOIA request, get hold of the inventory document for Killian's National Guard unit and check on the typewriters that they had issued at the time.
Everything is signed for in the Armed Forces, there should be a record of the equipment available to Killian at the time.
That should sort out Dan's claim once and for all.
DOES ANYONE HAVE TRANSCRIPT OF BLATHER'S FIRST 60 MINUTES REPORT? HE CLAIMS IT WAS AUTHENTICALED, BLAH BLAH BLAH- COMPARE THAT TO WHAT THEY ARE SAYING NOW!!!!!!!!!
Oooooh, good point! Show us the inventory documents or shut yur pie-hole, rather!
noutopia made that same point yesterday. Where's the yearly inventory, Kenneth?
The older one, the Olympia, had a special key on it that typed an underlined "th" with a single key stroke. As many experts have pointed out that the superscript "th" as two letters is an entirely different process that could not have come from either of these machines.
Game. Set. And Match.
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Does anyone have a link to the forgeries that isn't a pdf?
What's the kerning, Kenneth?
Think you will find that equipment inventories dating back to 1972 are long gone. The military maintains a lot of records, but not records like these for 30 plus years. Besides, this has been debunked enough so anybody with an IQ bigger than their shoe size should understand that they are FAKE. Obviously Rather and CBS don't qualify in the IQ department.
I believe that "th" on the old Olympia will cost Rather his career and CBS new about ten years of prestige. I think the existence of that special character convinced Dan that the documents could be presented as genuine.
I think the existence of that special character convinced Dan that the documents could be presented as genuine.
I think Rather's blind biased attitude convinced him that they were real. He obviously drinks an excessive amount of kool-aid.
Her comming forward was to say that she saw memos LIKE the admitted forgeries and the content was LIKE office gossip "on base"
I think she was originally supposed to come forward and say she typed the memos. Since she can't do that, the DNC is forced into using her to say the memos are a believable lie.
Of course this is a switch from earlier suggestions that the guy with two mental breakdowns was the source of the memos.
She would be properly torn to pieces on the witness stand.
Where was she in 2000 over the NG issue?
Where was she in the texas governors raceS?
Where was she in the congressional race of GWB?
Yet nooooow she remembers office gossip on these ephemeral memos. (oh and there are no other cya memos and no other memo subject she can remember so we can find similar memos)
BTW earlier today you posted an excellent take on the content of the memos which linked a new Kerry staffer, who used to be a Dukakis staffer. It basically identified why that staffer, whose name escapes me, would make the same mistakes in the memo.
would you mind posting that again please?
You couldn't even set those on a linotype. A modern electronic type fonts' metric and kerning track is as specific as an individual's fingerprint. They could only have been done on 1990's era computer and program using Apple's truetype version of Times Roman.
Of course, NBC is welcome to get a nice used IBM Composer, and lock Gunga Dan in a room with a 80 or 90 cases of copy paper, to give it his best shot at 1970's version of the memos. Run the final product through a cheap copier 6 or 700 times, and a 5 year old might not notice the difference.
Bingo. I knew there was such a beast in the typewriter universe. A few Wang wheels in the 80's had this as well.
Many typewriters had fraction keys too.They did 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 as a single character space. But none could have produced what Rather is claiming...
Precisely. Just take a look at this comparison between the August 18 memo and a copy I typed using Word defaults, with no adjustments. Note the guidelines I added, and how the corresponding characters line up perfectly in every way. Notice also the position of the date--exactly eight default tab stops away from the left margin.
I hate to shake you faith in the American Armed Forces, but when I was in the Army, every year just prior to our annual general ispection, the dumpsters were filled with unauthorized equipment.
Whaddya say we call up those boys & have 'em do a remake w/some new lyrics?
Don't Call Us, We'll Call You Revisited
Long distance direct'ry assistance area code 212 "Say hey CBS? this is mista big media blues" Dan said "Hello" and put me on hold To say the least the cat was cold He said, "Don't call us Freeper, we'll call you."
"I said "you got my freeper blog number?" He said "Yeah I got it when you exposed my blunder All the more reason for Don't call us, we'll call you Don't call us, we'll call you."
"Dan, we got your number from a friend of a friend who said he used to work with you Remember the anchor night creatures from the Media Days of 1492?" "Yeah," I said, "could you relate your investigative quarter track tape? "You know now you've been exposed, y'all performin' in the nude" He said, "uh huh don't call us Freeper we'll call you."
"Listen kid you've brought our agenda to a crawl You ain't bad but we've heard it all before So we're stickin' to our guns"
Any way we cut a bloggers' hit and we toured the big media a bit with an expose Dan said he'd Rather not use. And now he calls and begs and crawls It's corporate media deja vu We got credibility points pouncin' on Viacom's lousy joint and all the glitter we can use Dan the man so uh huh "Don't call us, now we'll call you!"
"Listen, pajama wannabe, you paid for the call You ain't bad but I've heard it all on CBS before No, Don't call us, we'll call you."
Back in the mid 90's (I am a former government employee) there was an Information Warfare Forum, held at a TS facility in Va. The who's who of the top levels of government were there. If you didn't have the highest level of clearance, you didnt get in. Name your acronym, and the head of that agency was present. One of the topics was about inserting false information into a desired medium in order to more accurately predict the number actions or reactions of the desired target or possibly influence that target in to reacting in a specific manor(some call it disinformation, there was another fancy little term for this, but I can't remember it).
As I have watched this administration, it seems as though this has become the standard for all things, rather than a tatic against our enemies. Making statements and then retracting them some time later to initiate a response good or bad from the opponent and the audience. Its nearly subliminal. I am sure many of you could pick out many examples from both sides. Whether or not the "paperwork" from CBS is real is only a small portion of the bigger picture. This is a practice by our government and has been for some time.
The internet is a symbol of America, filled with information, some of it right, some of it wrong. It has been exploited by the powers that run it which in turn has damaged the credibility of this free forum.
So who is right? Rather? Laura Bush? I don't know. The answer has been lost. At this point someone could come out and say "I did it" and the there would still be a conspiracy running amuck. But thats probably what they wanted in the first place.
"Sholes & Glidden Type Writer," was produced by the gunmakers E. Remington & Sons in Ilion, NY from 1874-1878
I think she was originally supposed to come forward and say she typed the memos. Since she can't do that, the DNC is forced into using her to say the memos are a believable lie.
... Who'da thunk a mere buncha simians in pajamas coulda forced this change of tactics, huh? Without us available, this story would be a week old before anybody even questioned the "tremendous authority" of CBiaS FRAUDcasting network.
ROTFLMPO
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Keep drinking the KoolAid..
Despite what you might think, Al Gore did not invent the internet, nor does any one entity control it.
It may surprise you to know that the Europeans are the equals of America in many computing and communications technologies. The internet is not "American", it is worldwide.
That is the reason it is severely restricted in China and is unavailable to the North Koreans.
These maybe your masters, but the rest of us operate in a free environment where information and opinion lives or dies on it's own merits.
Remington! Shouldn't there be a ban on this kind of equipment?
Who'da thunk a mere buncha simians in pajamas coulda caused the DNC to waste SEVERAL MILLIONS of dollars on a worthless advertisment that they cannot air?
It just cracks me up !
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