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Mansoor Ijaz: The extremist ideology is in collapse
NRO ^ | 9/11/04 | Mansoor Ijaz

Posted on 09/11/2004 4:02:23 PM PDT by freedom44

On this third anniversary of the tragic events of September 11, 2001, we have much more to be thankful for than some of our political leaders would have us believe. Islamist terrorism's global scourge has been unable to launch anything more than verbal tirades at America. And while the jihadists have won successes in lesser form — the train bombings in Spain that unseated a government, hostage-taking dramas in Iraq that forced minor players from the global antiterror team, and Iran's successful effort to sow divisiveness in the West about its nuclear ambitions while harboring much of al Qaeda's senior leadership — the fact remains that they have not been able to execute a spectacular strike in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.

Osama bin Laden's global vision — of jihadists crawling from the cracks in every enemy state to strike out at infidels with weapons of mass destruction — is drowning in a swamp of confusion among senior jihadists debating who to attack next, how to do it, and for whose benefit. In short, global jihad has turned on itself, and is being destroyed from within — one botched and more wretched attack at a time.

This is largely a function of the sacrifices made by our fallen heroes — the men and women of the U.S. armed forces, and their Coalition colleagues — in the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan. Their courage and valor in conflict zones has battered the very thesis — that the enemy is too corrupt of mind, too decadent in spirit, and too weak of body to sustain the battle to victory — on which bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, have sent thousands of "martyrs" to their deaths.

Zawahiri's appearance on al Jazeera this week to once again threaten the U.S. was particularly poignant, since it was the Egyptian physician who, in his infinite wisdom, wrote in 2001 prior to the September 11 attacks that if the "jihadist vanguard" improperly executed its plans to spread Islam's words by force, the movement would become isolated and separated from the Muslim masses. He was right, and is now desperately trying to rekindle the unified spirit al Qaeda had achieved prior to the 9/11 attacks.

Zawahiri went so far, at that time in 2001, to set forth the thesis of "shock-and-awe" terrorism as a way to galvanize the Muslim masses against the infidels and win the hearts and minds of the feeble in the Muslim world. And so it was that he conceived the attacks of September 11. Galvanize he did, but the wrong masses. And now global jihad is showing real signs of coming apart.

Just look at recent terrorist acts to see how desperate the jihadists have become to regain their footing among Islam's increasingly skeptical masses. The most informative example is what happened in Russia last week.

The massacre of innocent children at Beslan, where terrorists turned guns on each other to coerce obedience to the plan, demonstrated the very failure of extremist Islam's ideology to inspire — and how the hideousness of their actions could sow doubt in even the most criminally hardened minds. When even the terrorists are at a loss to see how killing over 150 schoolchildren can help their cause, you know they have a problem. Most Chechens have now turned away from the very radicals who seek to free them because they see the horrific lengths to which the extremists will go, and realize that they too could be the targets of the assassins.

Like him or not, Vladimir Putin's resolve to stare down Beslan's terrorists — about whom he understood nothing — will (if by accident) be seen one day as a turning point in the war against extremism, because the depravity of Beslan's architects has turned the silent majority in the Muslim world on its ear. Editors, political leaders, and mullahs from Jeddah to Istanbul to Jakarta are decrying the insanity of the Beslan murders. And they are beginning to realize that always blaming others for their woes won't help elevate their disaffected people or spread the word of their failed vision any faster or better.

We Muslims (I am an American whose faith remains that of the humane and dignified Islam) have no legs to stand on anymore when those who proclaim our religion are willing to put a gun to a child's head, pull the trigger, and call it an act of martyrdom. Islam no longer carries a message of hope, only the indelible impressions of cruelty. Its purveyors are bankrupt of ideas that inspire, and have failed in an ideology that in its very heart today has become hypocritical. To top it all off, America's Muslims — whose freedom to craft and convey an opposition to the terrorist cancer is protected by the very people those terrorists seek to destroy, sit silent — stone cold silent.

Islam's "vanguard," as Zawahiri called it, has an opportunity to redefine the message and turn away from the extremists. America will win the war against extremism because America's values are righteous, and because God, whatever you conceive Him to be, is at our side. But Islam will surely lose its credibility as a great religion if its benefactors don't stand now and drive the final nail into the coffin of the terrorists who have hijacked a noble faith.

The terrorists have turned on themselves because they have no morality and no code. Let's now finish the job and rise up against them en masse with ideas that reflect human values, not just Islamic values: to mobilize the Muslim masses against their own extremist creed for the good of humanity. To do otherwise is to show the ultimate disrespect for our fallen heroes, both here in America and now in the fields of Beslan, where the innocence of our children was lost as well.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ijaz; mansoor; thirdanniversary

1 posted on 09/11/2004 4:02:23 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

Oh, I thought this was a story on the Democrats' implosion.


2 posted on 09/11/2004 4:05:33 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: freedom44
But Islam will surely lose its credibility as a great religion

Uhhhh a little late wouldn't you say. This murderous cult has world domination as its' creed.

3 posted on 09/11/2004 4:05:57 PM PDT by ninonitti
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To: freedom44

So how does this address Beslan?


4 posted on 09/11/2004 4:10:05 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: freedom44

So how does this address Beslan?


5 posted on 09/11/2004 4:10:05 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: freedom44
And while the jihadists have won successes in lesser form — the train bombings in Spain that unseated a government, hostage-taking dramas in Iraq that forced minor players from the global antiterror team, and Iran's successful effort to sow divisiveness in the West about its nuclear ambitions while harboring much of al Qaeda's senior leadership — the fact remains that they have not been able to execute a spectacular strike in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.

Have not been able to or have not attempted to?

There are plenty of radical Muslim clerics all throughout Europe and quite possibly in North America as well. The millions-strong Muslim diaspora gives them a fresh supply of recruits and support.

Maybe not one in a hundred Muslims are violent. Maybe not one in a hundred communists were agents of the Soviet Communist Party. But in either case, the adherents to those philosophies were subscribing to ideologies which, played out to their practical and logical conclusions, proved deadly.

6 posted on 09/11/2004 4:20:30 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: freedom44

That's right Americans, trust this muslim.

Keep repeating to yourselves:

The muslim extremist ideology is in collapse
The muslim extremist ideology is in collapse
The muslim extremist ideology is in collapse
The muslim extremist ideology is in collapse
The muslim extremist ideology is in collapse

You have nothing to fear, peace will soon be upon you.


7 posted on 09/11/2004 4:23:06 PM PDT by sarah_f (Until a nation has embraced Islam, it is legally considered a battlefield [Dar-ul-Harb].)
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To: freedom44
""We Muslims ... have no legs to stand on anymore when those who proclaim our religion are willing to put a gun to a child's head, pull the trigger, and call it an act of martyrdom. Islam no longer carries a message of hope, only the indelible impressions of cruelty. Its purveyors are bankrupt of ideas that inspire, and have failed in an ideology that in its very heart today has become hypocritical. To top it all off, America's Muslims — whose freedom to craft and convey an opposition to the terrorist cancer is protected by the very people those terrorists seek to destroy, sit silent — stone cold silent."

That said it all...STONE COLD SILENT.

8 posted on 09/11/2004 4:27:03 PM PDT by dinok
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To: freedom44

I respect Monsoor Ijaz, but please: if the incineration of 3,000 people in fiery explosions didn't turn "reasonable" Muslims against the terrorists, why should the murder of a tiny fraction of that be different?


9 posted on 09/11/2004 4:29:58 PM PDT by LS
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To: freedom44

Too little too late. Talk is cheap. Stop the world wide slaughterings!


10 posted on 09/11/2004 4:30:38 PM PDT by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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To: freedom44
Thanks for an excellent post! I always enjoy reading of hearing Ijaz's comments. Muslim or not he is a very intellegent man with insight into the muslim/arab world.

It's true he has been off on a few of his predictions but overall I believe he's been quite an asset.

I'm not swayed to believe the Beslan incident was THE turning point...we may have a way to go for that. It IS interesting however...and I think this was on another thread this afternoon...that Zawahiri and Zarqawi and maybe severl pothers may be fighting among themselves, struggling for control of what's left of AQ and radical islam.

prisoner6

11 posted on 09/11/2004 4:32:10 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: sarah_f
Please elaborate.
12 posted on 09/11/2004 4:33:30 PM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: gorush

Ijaz is an islamic double agent.


14 posted on 09/11/2004 4:37:23 PM PDT by sarah_f (Until a nation has embraced Islam, it is legally considered a battlefield [Dar-ul-Harb].)
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To: sarah_f

Is he working for them, us or himself?


15 posted on 09/11/2004 4:43:59 PM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: sarah_f
I see. It is ethical to lie, and decieve, if done for the cause of Islam.

16 posted on 09/11/2004 4:47:39 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: sarah_f

You've GOT to be kidding me. You really can't take yourself seriously, do you?


17 posted on 09/11/2004 4:47:42 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

Well, duplicity is a fundamental tenet of Islam. So working from that starting point, if Mansoor is in fact a double agent I think that means he's on our side.


18 posted on 09/11/2004 5:43:05 PM PDT by Itaintwhy
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To: sarah_f

Silence is acceptance.


19 posted on 09/11/2004 5:46:31 PM PDT by Maigrey (Member of the semi-naked blogger Political Operative Brigade. To H#ll with pajamas!)
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To: freedom44
We Muslims (I am an American whose faith remains that of the humane and dignified Islam)

I'm still hoping for a formal schism in Islam, giving birth to a well-defined Westernized sect of the religion that embraces modernity and categorically renounces all violence.

I'm not holding my breath.

20 posted on 09/11/2004 5:52:18 PM PDT by nsc68
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To: nsc68
How can Islam give birth to a "Westernized sect of the religion....renouncing all violence until the entire Koran is repudiated?

If ever a pervert needed repudiation it's Mohammed!

21 posted on 09/11/2004 5:55:15 PM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: freedom44

Ask Russia about this....TWO Airliners Downed and a SCHOOL taken over by these BARBARIANS!! It doesn't sound like they are in collapse! Islamofacists SEEM to be the rule..NOT the Exception!


22 posted on 09/11/2004 5:58:04 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: kerryforreal?
I wish he would run for President of Pakistan or wherever

Ijaz is an American who was an advisor in the Clinton administration until he was either fired or quit. He is a second generation middle easterner who has run hot and cold on FreeRepublic depending on the accuracy of his predictions. I think he has some valuable insights into Islamism but does not hold any of the ultimate keys to understanding these criminals. Obviously, he is not eligible to hold office in foreign countries.

23 posted on 09/11/2004 6:02:41 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: sarah_f
I just watched THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST for the first time and was stunned how much President Bush fits the mold of savior.

He has withstood a withering barrage of verbal scourging and brought peace and freedom to 50 million oppressed people.

His faith has strengthened him to the task at hand.

The reformation coming to the Muslim world is called Christianity!

24 posted on 09/11/2004 6:26:02 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (3 Purple Hearts? No blood? No Way!!)
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To: tkathy
Too little too late.

I'm with you...too little too late, if they (the moderate muslims) wanted to stop it, they could tomorrow. The good ones know where the bad ones live and who they are. They could turn them in or physically intervene. There is no excuse.

25 posted on 09/11/2004 7:01:16 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Ishmaelites...Still a wild-ass of a people....)
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To: freedom44

So whatever happend to Monsoor Ijaz's testimony for the 911 Commission? Does anyone know if it was it ever released?


26 posted on 09/11/2004 7:38:04 PM PDT by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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To: freedom44

Have Muslims renounced Dhimmi status?

Have Muslims renounced that all Infidels must be converted or die?


27 posted on 09/11/2004 8:14:06 PM PDT by Prost1 (Only Muslims should have Dhimmi status.)
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To: freedom44
This is largely a function of the sacrifices made by our fallen heroes — the men and women of the U.S. armed forces, and their Coalition colleagues — in the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan. Their courage and valor in conflict zones has battered the very thesis — that the enemy is too corrupt of mind, too decadent in spirit, and too weak of body to sustain the battle to victory —

I do believe that we made grave and costly errors in the 70s, 80s and 90s in our limp response to the terrorist actions --- I don't mean only the US, but the whole western world, from Munich on 'til 9/11... and even including President Bush administration's first statements to Putin and Israel regarding their terrorism problems.

28 posted on 09/11/2004 8:14:17 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: freedom44

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MONSOOR IJAZ =

Remember the Lost and Suffering on September 11, 2001

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33

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29 posted on 09/11/2004 9:33:57 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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