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ZOT: Let's All Vote November 2! (Proposal for WORLD election)
07 September 2004 | Tahar Ben Jelloun

Posted on 09/08/2004 1:13:51 PM PDT by awesomechick

And what if, this coming November 2, at the same time as millions of Americans, all the world's peoples went to the ballot box to vote? There would be legitimacy in their participation in the election of the president of the world's greatest power. Simply because their lives, their future, depend on it in one way or another. It would be a symbolic gesture, a universal speech in observation of a fact and a direct and unambiguous way of saying that the fate of the world depends in large part on the American presidency. The Vietnamese and the Chileans at one time, the Iraqis today, know something about that.

According to whether the present president is beaten or reelected, the fate of hundreds of thousands of families in Iraq, in Palestine, in Israel, in the whole Middle East, in the Maghreb and in Africa, in Latin America, and in many other countries as well, will find itself changed. This is the only presidential election that concerns so many people outside of the country where it takes place. Far from being a matter that concerns Americans only, [the election result] comes into play in many domains, the most obvious and spectacular of which is the economy.

Let's not even talk about what's happening daily in Iraq. The Iraqis have begun a civil war that all observers had predicted before America and Great Britain's intervention in that country. The Iraqis as well as the Palestinians would have every legitimate reason to participate in the vote.

This does not mean that John Kerry, were he to be elected, will overturn the situation in Iraq, but I think that in any case, the evil has been done and it will be necessary for civilized countries to get together to repair the enormous damage caused by a power that based itself on lies and illegality to give some semblance of a justification for its policy.

Those who would rejoice in George W. Bush' reelection are Al-Qaeda's people- they've already said as much - because he's the one whose policies dovetail the best with their strategy. Hasn't the intervention in Iraq offered this movement's terrorists an opportunity to develop and to pass for resistance to a colonial occupation in the eyes of the Arab world?

If Bush is a misfortune for at least half of all Americans, he's a disaster for all those outside the United States who suffer the effects of his actions dictated by sketchy fundamentalist thinking.

As for the Palestinians, if they know that they will not receive justice at the end of a magic wand, even one held by Mr. Kerry, they now live the horrors of the Israeli occupation which is blessed and encouraged by Team Bush. Their fate has never been as dire as since Sharon and Bush's advent into power.

We are far from Jimmy Carter's will to peace, or even from Bill Clinton's late, but praiseworthy, attempts. However, the world knows now that without a negotiated solution between Palestinians and Israelis (the Geneva plan is still valid), the whole Middle East, whether large or small, will remain a place of murderous conflicts, blind violence, and a laboratory for all the terrorisms of despair or revenge, both individual and state terrorism.

A Pew Research Center study teaches that "foreign policy, for the first time since the Vietnam War, is ranked along with the economy as a top concern of Americans" (Le Monde, August 20). That's one more reason why the people whose fate depends on this policy should also get to choose the next United States' president. It would be the logical thing, even if itvseems strange and above all unrealizable. However, it could be a guideline vote, a sort of signal to the president elect.

If Bush wins, it won't do any good, since millions of Europeans took to the streets to demonstrate their opposition to the entry of American-British troops in Iraq, millions of voices were raised to warn Team Bush about the dangers of such a war, an illegitimate war in spite of all the horror of Saddam Hussein's system and of those like him in the region, but Bush and his team were contemptuous of this massive popular "vote" and overrode it. So it's useless to speak to a mulish man, a man under the worst of influences, those of ignorance and religion.

If his rival is elected, some hope is allowed, even if we know that a well-established tradition will give priority to American interests. And it would be right in this instance to favor those interests by withdrawing from Iraq, indemnifying this slaughtered people, by promoting a negotiated settlement in the Middle East as soon as possible, by acknowledging the mistakes and the digressions of a power that has abused its strength rather than respecting law and right.

Some Americans will never accept such interference in their political life. Why should a Bhopal Indian, an African from the former Zaire (Congo-Kinshasa), an Arab, or a European have anything to say about such an election? Simply because, when the United States of America decides to bring "democracy" into a dictatorship (as though democracy were a pill soluble in a country's water) they don't consult those who are principally involved; they don't listen to the message of millions of demonstrators,and they ignore the opinion of the United Nations. Because they must imagine that what is good for the United States can only benefit those whose destiny they manipulate. When they decide to intervene in a country, bringing their weapons and their baggage, they don't trouble themselves with learning what the population thinks of it.

The arrogance and the contempt they demonstrate towards others would be taught a good lesson if the world's leaders agreed to organize this symbolic vote this coming November 2. It would be like a will to independence and resistance in the face of an advancing hegemony wrapped up in some religious values, certain prejudices, and a few pretexts.


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1 posted on 09/08/2004 1:13:52 PM PDT by awesomechick
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To: awesomechick

Imagine theres no moderators, it's easy if you try.


2 posted on 09/08/2004 1:19:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: Admin Moderator

can we keep this one just a little while? It's more fun than watching paint dry (yes, that's really what I'm doing)


3 posted on 09/08/2004 1:20:54 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: awesomechick
There would be legitimacy in their participation in the election of the president of the world's greatest power.

I guess you've never read the U.S. Constitution.

4 posted on 09/08/2004 1:21:32 PM PDT by kevao (Kerry/Edwards: Spitball-Throwing Girlie-Men.)
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To: awesomechick

You're not awesome, your a TROLL!


5 posted on 09/08/2004 1:21:50 PM PDT by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: cripplecreek; MEG33; dubyaismypresident; 4mycountry; Pan_Yans Wife; Charlie OK; E Rocc; ...
That was a quickly ZOTTED troll!


6 posted on 09/08/2004 1:21:57 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Charter member of the VRWC - and proud of it.)
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To: awesomechick

Kerry Feb 18, 1970: “I’m an internationalist. “I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.”


7 posted on 09/08/2004 1:22:11 PM PDT by Spackidagoosh
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To: awesomechick
There is one reason and one reason only that people of other countries want John Kerry. They desire a WEAKER America because a weaker America strengthens them.

There has to be a top dog in the world and America is it. We are the most powerful nation in history and weakling countries do not like this. They want us weakened and John Kerry will do that.

The fact is that there has to be a top dog. If not America, who do you want to be the most powerful country on the planet?

8 posted on 09/08/2004 1:22:15 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: awesomechick
I must be prescient. I predicted this morning that we would be hearing this kind of idiocy from the one worlders soon.

But even I didn't think it would be as early as today.

9 posted on 09/08/2004 1:22:17 PM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: awesomechick

"...or even from Bill Clinton's late, but praiseworthy, attempts"</i>Sure, like bombing the crap out of our WW II allies, the Serbs, while allowing the back door of Europe to be opened to Islamonazis from Albania - sure was praiseworthy.


10 posted on 09/08/2004 1:22:18 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: awesomechick
Comments?

Yeah, BUH-BYE!

11 posted on 09/08/2004 1:22:18 PM PDT by OSHA (Cheap Shots, Low Blows and Late Hits. Free Delivery. Fast Friendly Service with a Smile!)
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To: kevao

The first few lines of the declaration of independence would do.


12 posted on 09/08/2004 1:22:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: cripplecreek
Imagine theres no moderators, it's easy if you try.

Nothing to zot of fry for, no Viking Kitties, too.

13 posted on 09/08/2004 1:22:41 PM PDT by Fudd (Facts are to Liberals as salt is to slugs)
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To: awesomechick
This has to be one of the stupidest things I have seen in a long time.
14 posted on 09/08/2004 1:22:50 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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To: awesomechick

Tell you what, how about the whole world pays taxes to the U.S. too? Yeah, that's the ticket.


15 posted on 09/08/2004 1:23:22 PM PDT by MNnice
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To: awesomechick

piffle


16 posted on 09/08/2004 1:23:30 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: awesomechick

Only if we can tax all the voters first. No representation without taxation.


17 posted on 09/08/2004 1:23:33 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: awesomechick

Another abortion on FreeRepublic! Did it hurt?


18 posted on 09/08/2004 1:23:42 PM PDT by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: exile

but a truly awesome one! That amount of spew must have brought him/her/it to dry-heave levels.


19 posted on 09/08/2004 1:23:46 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: awesomechick
Comments?

You're a moron?
20 posted on 09/08/2004 1:24:21 PM PDT by kenth
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To: awesomechick

This is a joke, right?


21 posted on 09/08/2004 1:24:41 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: awesomechick

When the recipients of all that U.S. foreign aid actually repay it, and then pay a share of the domestic tax load, then we can start talking about letting them vote in a U.S. election.


22 posted on 09/08/2004 1:24:46 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: awesomechick

23 posted on 09/08/2004 1:25:01 PM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: awesomechick

Yep, this is going to work. Most of the people of the world can't vote in their own countries. Let them get that straightened out first.


24 posted on 09/08/2004 1:25:05 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.)
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To: awesomechick

IF this were to happen, I think that Eastern Europe should have the only say because they would vote for Bush. They know what freedom is. I think you should have your US citizenship revoked and you should be deported, maybe to Iran or Saudi Arabia where you can live the life you so desperately want for others.


25 posted on 09/08/2004 1:25:09 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: awesomechick

Here's an idea, why don't we conservatives vote on November 2, and you liberals and the rest of your Europeeing buddies vote on November 3. Fair?


26 posted on 09/08/2004 1:25:10 PM PDT by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: Maceman
I predicted this morning that we would be hearing this kind of idiocy from the one worlders soon. But even I didn't think it would be as early as today.

Desperation.

27 posted on 09/08/2004 1:25:12 PM PDT by Publius (Mother Nature is a hanging judge.)
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To: awesomechick
Trolls are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.


28 posted on 09/08/2004 1:25:34 PM PDT by Godzilla (9/11 - Never Forget, Never Forgive)
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To: awesomechick
To: awesomechick

Sure do hope you are good looking. Cause you got crap for brains.

Blonde right?

29 posted on 09/08/2004 1:25:39 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kerry Kool-Aid: Changes flavors with every sip.)
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To: awesomechick

TRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(I really wish I could get a tape of that soccer announcer that yells Goal for like 5 minutes and change it to say TROLL. that would be great!!)


30 posted on 09/08/2004 1:25:46 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Free Republic - Only as "free" as those that post on it want it to be!!!)
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To: Maceman

Show-off! ;-)

You called it. Should we get a pool going on how many times we hear the same junk before the election?


31 posted on 09/08/2004 1:25:46 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: awesomechick

Aw...some c**t.


32 posted on 09/08/2004 1:25:53 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: awesomechick

Dang! I did it to myself again!!

33 posted on 09/08/2004 1:26:00 PM PDT by alancarp (Boycott France and anything that even LOOKS French.)
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To: cripplecreek

I could use a group hug.


34 posted on 09/08/2004 1:26:13 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: awesomechick

How about we just let veterans and active duty military to vote in this election? Do you think Kerry and his supporters would go for THAT idea?


35 posted on 09/08/2004 1:26:17 PM PDT by MNnice
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To: cripplecreek

36 posted on 09/08/2004 1:26:31 PM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: nina0113

The dems must be getting desperate. I've notice an increase in Trolls lately.


37 posted on 09/08/2004 1:26:32 PM PDT by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: Maceman

You did see this coming, but the left always does this - expand the base of the voting to include people on your side. Naturally, mullahs in Iran and dictators like in North Korea side with them.


38 posted on 09/08/2004 1:26:40 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: awesomechick

"Comments?"

Femminists suck. They have done more to help destroy family culture in this country than any other entity has. Femminists are unattractive at the core of their being.

Abortion is murder. If you have an abortion you are murdering a person and will answer for it upon your death.

If I think of anymore, I'll let you know.


39 posted on 09/08/2004 1:26:48 PM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: awesomechick

Yeah, go ahead and vote world wide. Like it matters. Like I care. LOL!


40 posted on 09/08/2004 1:27:03 PM PDT by The_Victor
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To: awesomechick

So I guess this means the worlds' peoples are all willing to pay US taxes and obey US laws?

No? Well then no representation without taxation.


41 posted on 09/08/2004 1:27:40 PM PDT by telebob
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To: awesomechick
"I'd like to buy the world a home and furnish it with love,
Grow apple trees and honey bees, and snow white turtle doves.
I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony,
I'd like to buy the world a Coke and keep it company."

42 posted on 09/08/2004 1:28:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: exile; Admin Moderator

Wouldn't it be cool if they could add a line showing sign-up time as well as date, then keep that piece when they get zotted? Maybe with a zot-time as well?


43 posted on 09/08/2004 1:28:19 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: awesomechick
Psssst. Democrats vote on November 3rd.
44 posted on 09/08/2004 1:34:21 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: awesomechick

In paragraph 3 you use the term "civil war" to describe the actions of people that, in paragraph 5, you admit are Al Quida. In other words, you are on the side of the enemy.

You are a traitor that rejoices in the defeat of the USofA!


45 posted on 09/08/2004 1:35:21 PM PDT by CSM ("Don't be economic girlie men!" - Governator, August 31, 2004, RNC)
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To: awesomechick
Comments?

Never smoke the whole bag at once.
46 posted on 09/08/2004 1:35:36 PM PDT by MP5SD
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To: awesomechick

If the World voted for President and Congress, the result would be a socialist/communist/islamofascist coalition, the likes of which has never been seen; and the murderous oppression which would inevitably result would destroy all Life and Freedom as we Americans have known it...


47 posted on 09/08/2004 1:35:39 PM PDT by sargon (How could anyone vote for the socialist, weak-on-defense fraud named John Kerry?)
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To: Jim Robinson
"All we are sayyyying...is give peace(the terrorists)a chance"
48 posted on 09/08/2004 1:35:41 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (todo su país es pertenece a nosotros)
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To: awesomechick

I don't think they have patrol boats off the coasts of other countries picking up flimsy rafts full of Americans trying to sneak in so they can start a better life.


49 posted on 09/08/2004 1:35:51 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (McBride fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty bag filled with vegetable soup.)
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To: awesomechick
Only if we can vote in their elections, too...
50 posted on 09/08/2004 1:35:55 PM PDT by backhoe
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