Diebold GEMS central tabulator contains a stunning security hole

BlackBoxVoting ^ | 8/26/04 | Bev Harris

[Bellflower]

It is really great that voter fraud is finally being addressed to a greater extent then it has been. I have had a gut level feeling for a long time that the Dems have been cheating at a level that is beyond anything we may think. It has been in our prayers for a long time that fraud is dealt with. I believe if we can deal with voter fraud we will win one election after the next.I

[Donaeus]

Any of ya'll know anything about this? We're still using punch machines in my District.

Meek can you give us a ping? Thanks!

[ExSoldier]

I sent this to a good friend of mine, the District Director of my local Congresscritter AND to another friend of mine....Jeb Bush.

[risk]

Is Jim March a FReeper? It would be interesting to read his comments here, if he were.

[crushelits]

WHO ARE YOU?

 

Who are your Sponsors?

 

Board Member biographies will be here soon?

 

Do you think we are going to trust

By entering a 2-digit code?

[fly_so_free]

"Dems have been cheating at a level that is beyond anything we may think"

I heard the other day, that they found 30,000 dems registered in Florida, who were also registered in New York.(sheesh- 30,000 is a lot of votes. )

I hate electronic voting. Now it looks like I'm right to be leery of it. I think president Bush has a chance to win my state (California or "Caulifor-ni-a" as Ahnold says).- But not if with this type of voting and potential for fraud. There is nothing wrong with paper ballots. If you're too stupid to figure out how to use them, you're too stupid to vote.

I hope the Republicans are aware of this for their own sake.

[backhoe]

Crosslinked:

-The Vote Fraud Archives--

[MeekOneGOP]

Diebold GEMS central tabulator
contains a stunning security hole

Man. I cannot believe this! G-r-r-r-r!

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.

[MeekOneGOP]

Tis done. This is INSANE! How the heck can this happen?

[P.O.E.]

Some Democratic counties plan to use this abacus to count votes

[longtermmemmory]

Why not just take your camera phone into the booth with you and take pictures of your vote and teh final serial numbered page?

If the subsequent comparison of your serial number and your actual votes is different then fraud is proven. Just a thought.

[Joe Brower]

Say what? You're not making any sense.

[Joe Brower]

Folks, here's another response from Jim March:

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Joe, they banned only ONE of their three systems in California. They have optical scan, still in place here and all over the country, the original touchscreens (TS) used in one major California county (Alameda, pop. 1.6mil), all of Georgia, many other places and the new "touchscreen 2" (TSx) sold to four California counties. The latter was banned and those four counties are howling.

One reason Diebold was "punished" in late April was that a Diebold temporary tech from prior to the March 2nd primaries name of James Dunn came forward and contradicted Diebold's testimony before the SecState's voting systems panel. It was myself and Bev Harris that found him; I took his declaration by dictation.

I'm in this up to my neck, dude :).

Anyways. The problem exists all OVER the country. Hell, it was an attempted hack on a Diebold optical scan system in Volusia County FL in 2000 that made Al Gore rescind his concession speech on election night and threw us into a month of chaos. Somebody took a precinct memory card (PCMCIA), duplicated it in a standard laptop, hacked the copy so that it would add 4,000 votes for Bush and 16,022 "negative votes" for Al Gore.

Swear to God. So this utterly incompetent fraud attempt gets caught out on election night, Gore hears of it, naturally goes "what the f**k?" and the rest is history.

That particular fraud may have been incompetent, and hence caught, but they still didn't catch who tried it. There was also pro-Gore fraud going on too, it was a total mess in FL like everybody knows.

IF we can break them completely in California, they'll lose too much credibility and get scrapped nationwide.

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[American in Israel]

No system is 100% secure or error free.

Indeed, but when someone builds a bank vault with a back door, on can suspect that it is in the design requirements, not an accident. It is one thing to be able to rewrite the totals with a hack, entirely another to be able to substitute whole tables with a pre-defined key code. This does not look like an accident, this looks like government corruption on a whole new scale.

'No sir, I did not notice that sliding glass door on the bank vault back wall, and that is why I refused to listen to any information about it...'

[Joe Brower]

"Is Jim March a FReeper?"

I don't think so, he's too busy elsewhere. But any responses to my emails from him I will post here in his stead.

[Joe Brower]

"when someone builds a bank vault with a back door, on can suspect that it is in the design requirements, not an accident"

BINGO. You have hit the nail squarely on the head, good sir.

[Joe Brower]

Here is a new article on just this very subject here:

Judge Rules in Favor Of Md. Vote Machines

I think we are in big, Big, BIG trouble.

[ovrtaxt]

Great post- but you may want to start a new thread with a different title. I glossed over it at first because I thought it had something to do with bank security.

I had no idea that it was a VOTE FRAUD story!

[YOUGOTIT]

Since Jimmy Carter the democrats have never won an election without stolen votes. In the election two years ago they stole the Senate race in South Dakota, they stole the Senate race in Missouri in 2000. They were changing votes in Florida as quickely as possible in 2000 when the Supreme Court stopped them (they had even barred Republicans from watching them recount (i.e. change) the votes. Why was it that only the democrat controlled counties in Florida had any voting problems? Because in my state Florida the dems were attempting to steal the election by changing the votes.

[Leatherneck_MT]

I think we're pushing full speed ahead to Civil War II.

I think you are 100% correct.