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Kerry Retreats From His Denial on Vietnam Meet (This ghost from the past may haunt the Ketchup Kid)
The New York Sun ^ | March 19, 2004 | Josh Gerstein

Posted on 08/29/2004 9:56:21 AM PDT by quidnunc

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To: quidnunc
“John Kerry had no personal recollection of this meeting 33 years ago,”

That's pretty suspicious. Considering how his memory of being in Cambodia on Christmas Eve of 1968, yada, yada, yada, is "seared - seared - into his memory", how could he NOT recall this little episode? I mean, most people don't hang out with their buds, sucking up a few suds of a Saturday night and casually discuss assassinating politicians.

If it were me, I think I'd remember that conversation.
41 posted on 08/29/2004 1:10:20 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: Chieftain
I have one question about this meeting that discussed assassinating gov't officials, was it before or after the Watergate break-in? Oh, I have another question, would it have been illegal for Nixon to reveal what the FBI had found out about the VVAW, or just politically wrong?

The current VVAW is planning a protest on Thursday. I think that we need to get the whole story of Kerry's involvement with this group out there.
42 posted on 08/29/2004 1:18:10 PM PDT by Eva
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To: quidnunc

No personal recollection of a plan to assassinate senators? We're not talking here whether he forgot to put out the trash. This was a murder plot. They moved the venue twice until they held the meeting in the Mennonite flophouse.


43 posted on 08/29/2004 1:22:53 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: Chieftain

which other Freeper is working with you on the stickers?


44 posted on 08/29/2004 1:24:37 PM PDT by votelife (Calling abortion a women's issue is like calling war a men's issue!)
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To: quidnunc
MIDI - BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS

It's mid November nineteen seventy one
A major confrontation, friends, was said to have begun
Some vets had done some planning...they were getting really sore
They would move to the next level in attempts to stop the war

The FBI had been watchin' 'em in action
They're gettin' real scary...what's the next thing they would do?
In Kansas City would the plot gain traction
Would senators see pearly gates before the year was through?

A young John F. Kerry had been telling great big lies
U.S. troops pulled off mass murder, that should come as no surprise
They're killing for pleasure and were zapping testicles
Before the U.S. Congress he was spreading all that bull

The FBI had been watchin' 'em in action
They're gettin' real scary...what's the next thing they would do?
In Kansas City would the plot gain traction
Would senators see pearly gates before the year was through?

Back in Vietnam there were some men held by the Cong
They were undergoing torture...that side thought it wasn't wrong
They used John's words...and for the men it's really rough
John F. Kerry, you're a traitor...we have really had enough

The FBI had been watchin' 'em in action
They're gettin' real scary...what's the next thing they would do?
In Kansas City would the plot gain traction
Would senators see pearly gates before the year was through?

Scott Camil had been screamin' "It's time we were votin'!
Are you with or against us...we must know where you all stand"
John told them no and gave his resignation
'Cause after all, you know, that a career had been well-planned

He's hidden the record and hoped we would not find out
But Tom Lipscomb found the story...we know what John's all about
A lesson Kerry learned is now becoming evident
If you are whacking senators, you can't be president

The FBI had been watchin' 'em in action
They're gettin' real scary...what's the next thing they would do?
In Kansas City would the plot gain traction
Would senators see pearly gates before the year was through?

Scott Camil had been screamin' "It's time we were votin'!
Are you with or against us...we must know where you all stand"
John told them no and gave his resignation
'Cause after all, you know, that a career had been well-planned


45 posted on 08/29/2004 1:27:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: Vision Thing
There's nothing worse than having an itch you can't scratch.

As Rummy once explained to reporters: "There are things you know you don't know, and there are things you don't know you don't know." This one sounds like the Kerry group doesn't know what it doesn't know. And the Swifties are holding the cards.

46 posted on 08/29/2004 1:31:44 PM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Were getting down to what John Kerry is really all about:

Change your mind, change your story, make up a story, deflect the truth, ignore reality, smear anyone who dares mention truth or reality, grasp every opportunity available to you, call black "white" and white "black," consider utter hypocrisy a virtue, be anti-American if it will make you popular, be pro-American when you need to get votes, do whatever it takes to satisfy your political goals, no matter who you take out, hurt, maim, or disparage in the process.


47 posted on 08/29/2004 1:34:32 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: 68skylark
“John Kerry had no personal recollection of this meeting 33 years ago,” a Kerry campaign spokesman, David Wade, said in a statement e-mailed last night from Idaho, where Mr. Kerry is on vacation.

Amazing -He doesn't remember being present at a MURDER PLOT but being in Cambodia (when he wasn't) is SEARED, SEARED in his memory. This man is a total flake. ..And he sleepwalks too..! Do we wan't a delusional whack job sleepwalking with the nuclear football?

48 posted on 08/29/2004 1:35:53 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: crushelits
Change your mind, change your story, make up a story, deflect the truth, ignore reality, smear anyone who dares mention truth or reality, grasp every opportunity available to you, call black "white" and white "black," consider utter hypocrisy a virtue, be anti-American if it will make you popular, be pro-American when you need to get votes, do whatever it takes to satisfy your political goals, no matter who you take out, hurt, maim, or disparage in the process.

Wow. That sounds like the eight years before President Bush. I hope we don't go back to those times soon. I'm afraid that it has to happen some day, 'cause the tactics you outline DO work, I'm sorry to say.

49 posted on 08/29/2004 1:39:59 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: quidnunc

To put this in perspective :

"I was a member of AlQaida and was present at the meeting but was so upset at the vote to bomb the World Trade Center that I immediately resigned".

Oh ok. Thats great why don't we make you in charge of our nation ?

Can anyone grasp the insanity of this. I mean even if he was NOT at the meeting where the vote was held does it matter ?


50 posted on 08/29/2004 2:10:01 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: doug from upland
doug from upland wrote: No personal recollection of a plan to assassinate senators? We're not talking here whether he forgot to put out the trash. This was a murder plot. They moved the venue twice until they held the meeting in the Mennonite flophouse.

And keep in mind that Kerry was still a military officer at the time.

He wasn't discharged from the reserve until 1978.

51 posted on 08/29/2004 2:16:32 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
They know something's out there.

They're just not sure what it is yet.

How much is out there if they are not sure what IT is? There must be a lot of skeletons in the closet.....

52 posted on 08/29/2004 2:35:36 PM PDT by SteamShovel
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To: SteamShovel
How much is out there if they are not sure what IT is?

Exactly the point.

You don't want to start denying something that nobody has accused you of yet.

You might point the way to the evidence of something they didn't even know about.

But it really doesn't matter anyway.

Democrat SOP is to always attack the messenger, because the truth will never be on your side.

53 posted on 08/29/2004 2:52:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: 68skylark

"A normal person would remember being at a meeting like this. But maybe Kerry's brain got rattled during all those secret trips into Cambodia."


I think we have unlocked the secret of Kerry's brain! Events that he only WISHES had happened are SEARED into his mind but events that DID happen but which he wishes HAD NOT happened are totally forgotten. I think he studied under the same Guru as Slick Willy but he flunked the charisma course.

!


54 posted on 08/29/2004 2:53:46 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Wasn't Kerry still in the inactive Naval Reserves then? He SHOULD have reported this conspiracy.


55 posted on 08/29/2004 2:55:34 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: jocon307

"Kerry plainly is "unfit for command"."


Tell it like it is, Kerry is unfit for life outside a federal prison.


56 posted on 08/29/2004 2:55:36 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: Eva
Kerry's VVAW activites were long before Watergate.

If there is any current VVAW activities planned they should be dutifully FREEPED!!

57 posted on 08/29/2004 6:31:31 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: crushelits
KERRYTHINK:
To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word "Kerrythink" involved the use of Kerrythink.
58 posted on 08/29/2004 6:44:04 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: quidnunc

It's starting to look as if Kerry is trying to compete with Bill Clinton on how many lies he can tell the people. Kerry has no aptitude for schmooze, though. He's toast.


59 posted on 08/29/2004 7:18:13 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: Carolinamom

That's an interesting point. I'd also say that any person should report such activity.


60 posted on 08/29/2004 8:10:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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