Parsing Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia-When Did NIXON/"HIS" MILITARY First Deny Troops Were There?

Unfit for Command (Link is to Regnery Book Description) ^ | Various | John Kerry

[An American!]

"The speech you linked to was on April 30, 1970."

Funny thing about that speech...most accounts have it as a May speech...the Nixon Library had it at May 14, but I found it in two places that he actually gave it on the 30th...interesting. Not sure it means anything though.

[An American!]

I am an idiot...1970 vs 1969...too late for me to be posting.

[An American!]

This is the only text I can find about the Televised speech in front of the United Nations on the 14th of May. It does not appear he addressed this previously in a speech:

May 14, 1969 President Nixon responds to National Liberation Front proposal.
In his first full-length report to the American people concerning the Vietnam War, President Nixon responds to the 10-point plan offered by the National Liberation Front at the 16th plenary session of the Paris talks on May 8. The NLF's 10-point program for an "overall solution" to the war included an unconditional withdrawal of United States and Allied troops from Vietnam; the establishment of a coalition government and the holding of free elections; the demand that the South Vietnamese settle their own affairs "without foreign interference"; and the eventual reunification of North and South Vietnam.
In his speech, Nixon responded to the Communist plan by proposing a phased, mutual withdrawal of major portions of US Allied and North Vietnamese forces from South Vietnam over a 12-month period. The remaining non-South Vietnamese forces would withdraw to enclaves and abide by a cease-fire until withdrawals were completed. Nixon also insisted that North Vietnamese forces withdraw from Cambodia and Laos at the same time and offered internationally supervised elections for South Vietnam. Nixon's offer of a "simultaneous start on withdrawal" represented a revision of the last formal proposal offered by the Johnson administration in October 1966 — known as the "Manila formula" — in which the United States stated that the withdrawal of US forces would be completed within six months after the North Vietnamese left South Vietnam. The communists' proposal and Nixon's counteroffer were diametrically in opposition to each other and neither side gave in, so nothing meaningful came from this particular round of diplomatic exchanges.

[An American!]

A couple of hours web researching and I think you are right. In 1969 the bombing of Cambodia was a secret. It was not until 1970 when that became known. As far as I can tell in March of 69 the cambodia bombing started and continued for 4 years. To start in March of 1969 that meant they needed intelligence to know where to bomb. Who got that information and how?
What a tangled web of lies and deciet...

[Casloy]

Precisely. While there are some catholics in Vietnam, TET is the big celebration of the year. I saw no celebrating of any kind by the ARVN or the Vietnamese when I spent Christmas in Vietnam. Kerry is such a lamebrain he doesn't even stop to think about the stuff he makes up.

[Irish_Thatcherite]

I'll your word for it; Vietnam has alot of Catholics; it's too easy to assume that an asian country (apart from the Phillipines, of course), would have a significant Christian population - all the same F*** KERRY!!!

[muawiyah]

Last time I looked over 1/3 of the people in South Korea were Christians.

As we speak Christianity is sweeping through China. In a century or two, there's going to be a major conflict between the Christian Chinese and their European Moslem competitors over depopulated Africa and it's resources.

No doubt the world will be even stranger than can be imagined.

[Irish_Thatcherite]

It looks like Western Civilization is coming to an end - but it looks like Christianity won't, at least - problem is though, will Judaism survive - I am worried for the Jewish people.

[muawiyah]

One would imagine that if enough Jewish people become Korean Baptists they might well have a chance.

Gosh is the future ever going to be strange!

[Irish_Thatcherite]

Gosh is the future ever going to be strange!

Can you imagine a citizen of ancient Rome, in the 1st century A.D., seeing 2000 years into the future; and realising that a certian small, strange sect running aroung the place preaching, has established a civilisation, far more successful than his own, and realising that no trace - bar a few ruins - of his civilisation or culture remains.

My point is; I agree with you.

[Tulsa Brian]

"Can you imagine a citizen of ancient Rome, in the 1st century A.D., seeing 2000 years into the future..."


Think maybe his name was John? ;o)

[Irish_Thatcherite]

Perhaps