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Posted on 08/25/2004 7:09:27 PM PDT by gilliam

A website for the documentary "Stolen Honor"

“Stolen Honor” investigates how John Kerry’s actions during the Vietnam era impacted the treatment of American soldiers and POWs. Using John Kerry’s own words, the documentary juxtaposes John Kerry’s actions with the words of veterans who were still in Vietnam when John Kerry was leading the anti-war movement.

Currently in the final stages of production, Stolen Honor will be available for broadcast and on DVD and VHS video. In addition, you will be able to view excerpts from the program on this web site.

“In other wars, captured Americans subjected to the hell of an enemy prison were considered heroes. In other wars, they were not abandoned. In Vietnam, they were betrayed.” (Narration from “Stolen Honor”)

“Little did the American prisoners of war imagine that half a world away events were conspiring to make their precarious situation even more desperate. That an American Naval Lieutenant after a 4-month tour of duty in Vietnam was meeting secretly in an undisclosed location in Paris with a top enemy diplomat. That this same lieutenant would later join forces with Jane Fonda to form an anti-war group of so-called Vietnam veterans, some of whom would be later discovered as frauds who never set foot on a battlefield. All this culminating in John Kerry’s Senate testimony that would be blared over loud speakers to convince our prisoners that back home they were being accused and abandoned. Enemy propagandists had found a new and willing accomplice.” (Narration from “Stolen Honor”)


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1 posted on 08/25/2004 7:09:27 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: gilliam

"Thank you for visiting our site. Please return soon for updates." That's all I get when I go to the site.


2 posted on 08/25/2004 7:13:21 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: gilliam

EGG-CELLENT!

3 posted on 08/25/2004 7:16:02 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: Ciexyz

I am using IE and it comes up for me.


4 posted on 08/25/2004 7:16:11 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: gilliam; Hurtgen; zot; Interesting Times; Former Military Chick

Gilliam,

Thanks for the notice of the new site.


5 posted on 08/25/2004 7:16:48 PM PDT by GreyFriar (3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead)
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To: gilliam

"I'd have beaten the steam out of him... maybe that's what he needs."


Ralph Gaither, is he a Texan? He needs to be!


6 posted on 08/25/2004 7:17:56 PM PDT by BigDaddyTX
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To: gilliam
Stolen Honor sounds like a ripoff of the name "Stolen Valor." Don't try to piggyback on other peoples' accomplishments. It's shameful.

Maybe you should call it "Stolen Name"

7 posted on 08/25/2004 7:19:56 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: gilliam

That crapping noise you hear is coming from the Kerry Compound...


8 posted on 08/25/2004 7:20:32 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: gilliam

I love the site, bless you guys and good luck.

Perhaps when all is said and done not only will John Kerry's treason be exposed but also the lying lefty media which enables him.


9 posted on 08/25/2004 7:25:07 PM PDT by federal
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To: xm177e2

Looks like there are only so many ways you can title it ... so maybe they were not thinking about that when they named it.


10 posted on 08/25/2004 7:27:41 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: Ciexyz

Wow! 7 years a POW.

Kerry needs to sit and watch this, something along the lines
of "A clock work orange"


11 posted on 08/25/2004 7:27:47 PM PDT by BigDaddyTX
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To: gilliam

I can only imagine what Rocky Versace would have to say about John Kerry's actions after he returned stateside.

You can't read 5 years to freedom, which isn't even really about Rocky, and not shed tears for him. The two men couldn't be further apart in Character.


12 posted on 08/25/2004 7:27:50 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (You can turn your head away from the Berg video and still hear Al Queda's calls to prayer.)
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To: gilliam

"I called the media. . . . I said, 'If I take some crippled veterans down to the White House and we chain ourselves to the gates, will we get coverage?' 'Oh, yes, we will cover that.' "--John Kerry, testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, April 22, 1971


13 posted on 08/25/2004 7:27:58 PM PDT by Leisler (Kerry, release your Department of Defense SF 180)
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To: Mia T

fyi


14 posted on 08/25/2004 7:48:07 PM PDT by jla (http://www.ronaldreaganmemorial.com/memorial_fund.asp)
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To: gilliam; Ciexyz
Comes up for me too, in Linux using any of Opera, Konqueror and Mozilla-Firefox browsers.

Try again, Ciexyz, or try another browser. (Opera and Mozilla-Firefox have Windows versions)

15 posted on 08/25/2004 7:49:12 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Ciexyz; gilliam

It doesn't come up on Mozilla; able to get site with IE.


Thanks for the info.


16 posted on 08/25/2004 7:50:56 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: gilliam

James Warner. Kept in a box from June 1st through November 10th (while enduring torture from May 5th through the 3rd of Sept)and one of the few voices from the USA that could still be heard from half way around the world was John Kerry, the Winter Soldier.


17 posted on 08/25/2004 7:56:47 PM PDT by BigDaddyTX
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To: gilliam
You may be interested in linking your website with another Anti-Kerry website that gets a lot of hits.
It's like a Hub from where you can jump to (currently) 128 Anti-Kerry or Pro-Bush Websites. It also holds links to many of the media articles we read here on Free Republic (in chronological order).

Over 100 Anti-Kerry Websites linked to One Page
Very useful site to Bookmark and/or connect with!
Click here:

http://members.aol.com/viperash50/links/links.html

18 posted on 08/25/2004 8:08:22 PM PDT by CaraM
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To: CaraM

It's not my website. I just thought I would let people know about it here.


19 posted on 08/25/2004 8:09:59 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: gilliam

Looks like it is going up and down right now. Suppose to be up permanently, if they get all the kinks out by Thursday night.


20 posted on 08/25/2004 8:12:56 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: xm177e2

"Stolen Honor" sounds like a ripoff of the name "Stolen Valor." Don't try to piggyback on other peoples' accomplishments. It's shameful."

Hey YO, don't make accusations about ones supposed motives. I mean your starting to sound very much like xm177e1, of who you obviously and shamelessly stole their screen name.

Now to the meat of your accusation:

Valor: strength of mind or spirit that enables a person to encounter danger with firmness : personal bravery

Honor: good name or public esteem

It seems to me that in the case of John Kerry and what he did to the reputations of Vietnam Vets and consequently the abhorrent treatment they received after returning, Honor seems to apply better. The vets, particuarly those that were POW's needed valor to survive but ultimately what was lost was their rightful reputations, their honor.


21 posted on 08/25/2004 8:33:47 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Florida 2000: There Would Have Been No 5-4 Without A 7-2)
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To: BigDaddyTX

Yes, the video clip of James Warner absolutely DAMNS Kerry!


22 posted on 08/25/2004 8:46:22 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: gilliam; Dawn_USAF; CheneyChick; ODC-GIRL; The Sailor; kjfine; Old Sarge; USAF_TSgt; darkwing104; ..

The downfall of Hanoi Kerry PING!


23 posted on 08/25/2004 8:52:36 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: gilliam
Keep digging, kerry.
You're doing fine.


24 posted on 08/25/2004 8:55:15 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: gilliam
Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004


NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.




NEW:
FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!
CLICK HERE


From Kerry's "The New Soldier":
Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66

Emotions: Walking down the flight line at Saigon past stacks of aluminum cases containing American bodies and past stacks of aluminum luggage containing American currency. Seeing the tight, sad face of an Airman loading the bodies aboard a dirty Air Force Transport and the wide smiling face of a stewardess greeting the passengers aboard a clean Pan American Clipper Jet. Hearing a Vietnamese beg you to leave his country and an American colonel tells you to bomb his country. Hearing a Vietnamese invite you to live in his home, after the war and an American explain why you can’t live in his block, after the war. Flying over barren, brown, safe American held terrain and over lush, green unsafe enemy terrain. Feeling happy to be leaving a country in which you do not belong and sad to be returning to a country in which you are not allowed to belong. Sacrificing a portion of your consciousness so you won’t have to deal with being there and building mental blocks so you won’t have to deal with having been there.

- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese he ever met was when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.
John Kerry's explanation: "He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War

PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

Send this url for the online version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/


Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf


"First Kerry picked Edwards BUT now he picks Hanoi Jane!"




25 posted on 08/25/2004 8:55:17 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Bump!


26 posted on 08/25/2004 8:55:42 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bttt


27 posted on 08/25/2004 8:58:16 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Leisler; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

It worked once, so he's trying it again:

"I called the media. . . . I said, 'If I take some crippled veterans down to the White House and we chain ourselves to the gates, will we get coverage?' 'Oh, yes, we will cover that.' "--John Kerry, testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, April 22, 1971

"Kerry is sending to Crawford former Sen. Max Cleland of Georgia, a frequent companion of Kerry's on the campaign trail and a fellow Vietnam War veteran who lost three limbs during the war. Cleland . . . will try to deliver a letter protesting the [Swift Boat Veterans for Truth] ads to [President] Bush at his heavily guarded ranch, Kerry aides said."--Reuters, Aug. 25, 2004

From Thursday's "Best of the Web Today"
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110005526


28 posted on 08/25/2004 9:00:20 PM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: gilliam; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; OXENinFLA; Grampa Dave; ...





Want to join in the fun? Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!

29 posted on 08/25/2004 9:03:25 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: gilliam

My appreciation to you guys for continuing to fight for our country. Bless you and your mission.


30 posted on 08/25/2004 9:04:29 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Kerry/Edwards. A pig in a dress is still a pig.)
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To: gilliam

Everyone repeat, please: Kerry's Watergate!


31 posted on 08/25/2004 9:05:41 PM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks Tonk!


32 posted on 08/25/2004 9:06:54 PM PDT by herewego
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To: gilliam

They have 3 sample video clips

POWs talk about Kerry

if America sees this, Kerry is TOAST!

clip 1 about 4:45 in a Vet/POW says if he was present during Kerry's anti-war protests he would have "beat the steam out of him. Maybe that's what he needs."

http://stolenhonor.com/documentary/samples.asp


33 posted on 08/25/2004 9:11:02 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee
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To: writer33
Funny you should say that.

Kerry, Watergate: DNC Links Caused Break-In? (Kerry lied! He was still with VVAW JUNE 1972)

34 posted on 08/25/2004 9:12:31 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb

Irony in motion.


35 posted on 08/25/2004 9:16:31 PM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Bump and bookmark


36 posted on 08/25/2004 9:49:53 PM PDT by Valin (It Could Be that the Purpose of Your Life is Only to Serve as a Warning to Others.)
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To: Valin

Bump. Watch the clips.


37 posted on 08/25/2004 10:31:50 PM PDT by LisaFab
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To: gilliam; PhilDragoo
Phil Dragoo's great graphic art below shows what the traitor Komrade Kerry did to his peers in Nam and to come to Nam and those who had served honorably before his treason.


38 posted on 08/25/2004 10:39:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets")
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To: GeorgiaYankee

The video clips don't work - and I have broadband service.
Bummer.


39 posted on 08/25/2004 11:01:09 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: gilliam
This idjit needs to release HIS MILITARY RECORDS!

Help the Kerry Campaign With Its paperwork!
Email Them a Standard Form 180 Now!



See this group of Swift Boats patrolling together? They are NOT SERVING together!!! Only the ones on the SAME BOAT are serving together! Each group of personnel on each boat know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the personnel on the other boat, PERIOD !! If they say they do, they are Republican LIARS !! Unless the one talking is a DemocRAT. Then he is telling the truth, of course.


Click here to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!


40 posted on 08/26/2004 2:29:21 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Smartass
As Grampa Dave said: "Christmas, 1968: Kerry with his Swift Boat Crew
in Scambodia. Kerry is wearing his CIA hat that came from Richard Nixon
a month before Nixon was sworn in as President."



41 posted on 08/26/2004 2:33:50 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTT!!!!!!


42 posted on 08/26/2004 3:03:09 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: MeekOneGOP

Excerpt from David Limbaugh interview of John O'Neill. This part of a three part interview here.

John O’Neill: Probably the most peculiar one, Cam Ranh Bay is where Kerry started.  There was no real fighting going on at Cam Ranh Bay.  You know, it was a big French resort town and so on.  Kerry was in a room.  One PCF guy walked in and when he walked in, Kerry had green camouflage paint on his face and he was holding a camera about 8 to 10-12 inches in front of him talking into the camera.  This has got to be pretty unusual, you know what I mean?  We didn’t wear green camouflage paint and there was nothing going on Cam Ranh Bay.  The stories about him staging this stuff are legend.  For example, Steve Gardner, as crewman, wouldn’t participate.  He kept wanting Steve Gardner, kind of like a cameraman, for some of the stuff, and Gardner wouldn’t do it.  So, the topic of he and his camera has been a constant topic for years there among the Swift Boat people who were there with him.

Read David's Interview with John O’Neill

 


43 posted on 08/26/2004 6:13:02 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: torchthemummy
"Stolen Honor" sounds like a ripoff of the name "Stolen Valor."
 
You wrote:
 
Valor: strength of mind or spirit that enables a person to encounter danger with firmness : personal bravery

Honor: good name or public esteem

It seems to me that in the case of John Kerry and what he did to the reputations of Vietnam Vets and consequently the abhorrent treatment they received after returning, Honor seems to apply better. The vets, particuarly those that were POW's needed valor to survive but ultimately what was lost was their rightful reputations, their honor.
 
I concur with your comment above!


44 posted on 08/26/2004 6:19:16 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: gilliam

BTTT


45 posted on 08/26/2004 6:27:29 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: gilliam

BTTT


46 posted on 08/26/2004 6:38:20 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Wolverine
So, the topic of he and his camera has been a constant topic for years there among the Swift Boat people who were there with him.

I guess he was practicing for Presidential Campaign TV face time.

This Turkey's gonna get TROUNCED November 2nd .....


47 posted on 08/26/2004 6:45:28 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
This may be the best place to ask this question:

Has anyone made an attempt to identify all the "soldiers" on the jacket of Effing's book to determine what "bigger and better" accomplishments they went on to achieve? Are they all in jail? dead? what?

Also, are any of them real soldiers? or just wannabe shit disturbers who liked the attention back then?

48 posted on 08/26/2004 6:45:47 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: xm177e2
"Stolen Honor sounds like a ripoff of the name "Stolen Valor." Don't try to piggyback on other peoples' accomplishments. It's shameful."

Not when one is telling the truth about an event. If you've never served then you wouldn't understand.

"Maybe you should call it "Stolen Name"

Perhaps you should wait until all the facts are in before putting your mouth in gear.

49 posted on 08/26/2004 8:49:10 AM PDT by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Pride in my Southern Ancestry! Falsum etiam est verum quod constituit superior.)
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To: CaraM

The New URL for Anti Hanoi John Links and News Reports is at http://members.aol.com/ga1449ga/links/links.html
because of band width problems.

The Site at
http://members.aol.com/viperash50/links/links.html
will be taken down within the next week


50 posted on 08/27/2004 3:00:29 AM PDT by ViperAsh50
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