Swift Boat Writer Lied on Cambodia Claim

Yahoo! News & Associated Press ^ | 8/25/2004 | Elizabeth Wolf

[NavySEAL F-16]

O'Reilly's true colors are finally showing, aren't they? He's not even making an effort to hide his bias any longer, is he?

I always thought he was a fraud. That's probably why he likes Kerry. Two peas in a pod.

Thanks for the info.

[Aunt Polgara]

Here is something from the swiftvets forum:

You’re missing the Point on O’Neill in Cambodia. He’s talking about patrolling on "Bernique’s Creek" near Ha Tien. That's on an entirely different river system and in different area of operations from where Kerry claimed to have entered Cambodia on the Mekong river. In fact you can’t even get from Ha Tien by boat to SA Dec without an ocean passage around the tip of South Vietnam O’Neill was never in Cambodia on "Bernique’s Creek" because it never enters Cambodia. It does however come within about 50 yards of the border and that’s what O’Neill was talking about. Here’s a link of the Cosdiv 11 AOR showing Ha Tien and the Creek with runs along the border. http://www.rjsmith.com/IV_Corps_An_Thoi_01.html

The swift vet link is here

[Richard Axtell]

Just minutes ago, Irwin Chemerinsky (sp) claimed on Hugh Hewitt, that today's front page NYT article on the Swift Vets claims that virtually ALL of their claims have been discredited to date. Anyone know which article this is? My guess it is just another half-baked, premature attempt at "gotcha" by the leftist press, but will not hold up to scrutiny. They insist that they can master this story, without doing their homework,... like reading the damn book! They are clueless, and will continue to be so, because they have been charged with defending the indefensible, namely Kerry's fraudulent war record.

[Use It Or Lose It]

I am THANKFUL that Ben Ginsberg is staying with the Swiftees. John O'Neill will have the last laugh on this one.

[Publius6961]

The issue is not if O'Neill or Ef'ing were in Cambodia, but when. It's entirely possible that O'Neill was near or in Cambodia at some time during his stay there. But was he in Cambodia with Kerry on Christmas Day 1968?

I don't recall O'Neill ever saying that he was never in Cambodia.

[Waco]

All this shows why we are better off electing a GOP to prez. than a RAT. The media will check every dot and comma when it's GOP. If a RAT is in they will run cover and propagandize for him. Personally, I'm all for scrutinizing EVERY office holder, not just one or two.

[blackdog]

Wanna know who's running the Kerry Campaign now?

www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39f7c33c18ed.htm

I can't do a link, so if anyone else can help out.........It's an important read!

[Williams]

Lawrence O'Donell tried this on Scarborough last night, too. Said the Swiftvets had abandoned every challenge of Kerry's medals and were left entirely with the issue of whether Kerry was in Cambodia on one particular night. Pat Buchanan, who has been terrific on this and has way more cajones than any republican, immediately corrected him and listed every ongoing dispute.

Buchanan emphasized the saipan incident, where Kerry falsely turned killing a family into killing and capturing half a dozen VC soldiers. That incident didn't involve a medal, but should be devastating for Kerry.

[vbmoneyspender]

What do you mean you can't sue for libel.

[pollywog]

I hope O'Neill is going to sue the headline writer for libel. The writer of the story is very careful not to accuse O'Neill of lying, but not so for the headline writer.

WEll I SURE HOPE HE SUES THEM......and I think it would be a great time for Freepers to let YAHOO NEWS know just what we THINK!!!!!Anyone know where we can contact them??

[hansel]

On H&C last night Colmes screamed at O'Neill about this. O'neill kept saying "read the next sentence Colmes" implying C was taking it out of context. Then O'Neill went on to say that he was in a different region in the waters around Viietnam that was in fact close to the Cambodian border but that Kerry was in the Mekong which wasn't.

[Exit148]

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MSM = Mainstream media!!!!!

I have been trying and trying to figure what group it was! Nothing fit! I googled all over the place, I racked my brain --to no avail, but all of a sudden, while reading comments in this thread, it FINALLY dawned on me!

Thanks guys!

About Mr. O'Neill and Cambodia --- isn't it so left-like to single out and tear down. They have nothing, so they attack. The problem is, Mr. O'Neill has nothing to hide. But that won't stop them. Looks like they are scared, folks! The MSM (love it!) have nothing so they have to scrape, and they still come up with nothing!

[Cold Heat]

very careful not to accuse O'Neill of lying, but not so for the headline writer.

This is how the media does it these days. It is one of the most despicable new forms of trash journalism.

Sometimes, like on FR, titles are changed for effect. But in the MSM it should not be done as it guides opinion.

News should be disseminated and not colored for effect. We should do this here as well, as we have a national audience.

[Nick Danger]

I hope O'Neill is going to sue the headline writer for libel.

And the Associated Press. This is way, way, waaaaaay over the top, even for the leftstream media.

[rushmom]

They're not mainstream. They're establishment but no more mainstream than the leftwing establishment in Academia.

[hansel]

Was the article written by Jayson Blair?

[TheDon]

A very nice article Liz. Uh, just one thing, exactly what did Mr. O'Neill tell President Nixon? Why didn't you put the quote in your story? Is it because, it doesn't support your claim?

[Cboldt]

O'Reilly's true colors are finally showing, aren't they?

He's really invested in this. His lead in to an interview with Ginsberg falt out asserted that Ginsberg was forced to resign. The thrust of the interview was to try to get Ginsberg to agree or disagree with O'Reilly's point of view that Kerry's service record is honestly portrayed in the official record.

As for your comment that he and Kerry are two peas in a pod, I agree completely. Ill informed, poorly spoken, elitist and self-absorbed. The big difference between them is a merely career path.

[Shermy]

"I was in Cambodia, sir. I worked along the border,"

But was John Kerry?

[knak]

I don't get it. I'm so confused. From what I read it sounded like he told the same story twice. Am I wrong?