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INVESTIGATE KERRY: "Sideshow" Book by William Shawcross Creates Three Scenario Dilemmas for Kerry!!
AmericanInTokyo from book sources, research ^ | 23 August 2004 | AmericanInTokyo

Posted on 08/23/2004 5:57:09 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

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To: John Valentine
Yes, correct. To help you recall, Kerry was stationed at Coastal Division 13, at CAT LO. They could and did go up to SA DEC. However, as pointed out, SA DEC is some way from the Cambodian border. 90 kilometers is indeed NOT "just over the Cambodian border." Here's Kerry's sworn testimony again:


21 posted on 08/23/2004 7:30:26 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Hitlery Recently Seen Throwing Banana Peels in Front of Kerry and Edwards' Residences)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

22 posted on 08/23/2004 7:32:55 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either religious relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: John Valentine; donozark

> Yeah, but in December 1968 Kerry was NOT assigned to An Thoi.

Actually he was at An Thoi December 6 to 13 (having been in Vietman since November 17 - wouldn't that be enough experinence for a super secret mission?)


23 posted on 08/23/2004 7:44:26 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: John Valentine; Oztrich Boy
Record shows he was assigned to Cam Ranh, then moved to An Thoi for one week-Dec. 6,1968-Dec.13. Then back to Cam Ranh.

RE:Access to Mekong/Cambodia via waterways? Much of the delta flooded at various times. What was dry land one week, was a waterway next week.

No expert here on Kerry's service. I served at other end of map. But I do know I walked through rivers/streams that were not on any map...

Also, some have questioned Kerry's service on PCF as being "safe." That is, not goin up inland waterways. In fact his second choice was PBRs. Not exactly a request for "light duty."

24 posted on 08/23/2004 8:02:40 AM PDT by donozark (I fought at the Battle of Kimchi Ridge. The gas...the gas...it was HORRIBLE!)
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To: Matchett-PI

John F'n Kerry: Hero of Dien Bien Fubar.


25 posted on 08/23/2004 8:05:32 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Democrat - It's in the dictionary - It's between "delusional" and "dimwit.")
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To: AmericanInTokyo
My Favorite post for dims and trolls
who slither in here each day.
And the Lame Stream media
who find the real news on Free Republic,
then rewrite and spin the truth.


ATTN : ABC CBS CNN FOX NBC
William B. Rood was not actually ON Kerry's boat.


Mommy Heinz!
Help!


Look what the Washington Post said on 8/21/04

"Although Kerry campaign officials insist that they have published Kerry's full military records on their Web site (with the exception of medical records shown briefly to reporters earlier this year), they have not permitted independent access to his original Navy records. A Freedom of Information Act request by The Post for Kerry's records produced six pages of information. A spokesman for the Navy Personnel Command, Mike McClellan, said he was not authorized to release the full file, which consists of at least a hundred pages. "

Look! What the Harvard Crimson wrote about me in 1970

Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970
John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress
By SAMUEL Z. GOLDHABER
Crimson Staff Writer

"...One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village
but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command
simply send in a Psychological Warfare team to be
friend the villagers with food, hospital supplies,
and better educational facilities."



Now my shipmates on the
USS GRIDLEY CG-21
are attacking me.

Click Here Mommy
and see what
the USS GRIDLEY crew say.


They say I told lies in Tour of Duty
GRIDLEY CREW ARE LIKE
SWIFT BOAT VETS MEANIES!

Mommy : People can get
MY real book here, right now, online FREE!!

I'm so proud of it!
The New Soldier,
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War



Mommy : Please don't be mad
about my hero Al Hubbard.

Head of Kerry's Vietnam Vets Against the War was Vietnam Vet phony
"Many of the stories were later shown to be fictional. Other so-called Vietnam veterans, such as the executive secretary of VVAW, Al Hubbard, a self-styled poet ("See what you've become, Amerika," ends one of his Vietnam odes),
turned out to have no record of service in Vietnam."



Mommy : Why does McCain
still campaign with Bush?
Mommy : Why doesn't Al Gore defend me?
He is a Vietnam Vet.

Mommy : Did Hillary
"leak" FBI Files on me?
I even used her famous slogan?


"Kerry entered and abandoned Vietnamese village and slaughtered domestic animals
owned by the civilians and burned down their homes with his Zippo lighter."




It only takes one idiot to raze a village!
(My original response!)


Mommy : Where is Ted Kennedy?




26 posted on 08/23/2004 8:12:58 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: q_an_a
would the CIA pick a man with less than 2 months in country time and a home movie camera exploiting his battles? doubt it.

Especially on a 50 foot long, 20 foot high, diesel-powered Swift boat. A Swift would undoubtedly be the LAST choice if someone wanted to do a covert insertion.

27 posted on 08/23/2004 8:19:14 AM PDT by Bob
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To: THX 1138

Yes, why would they pick a rookie with a history of complaining about the war to go on a Top Secret mission?

Why wouldn't the CIA use their own boats and men to complete the mission.

Kerry has no special talent or skills
was a rookie junior lieutenant just arrived
does not speak/read the languages
has no experience with the region/culture/topography/politics
has minimal weapons training and no infantry training
obviously had not be vetted for a security clearance
(based on the fact that he ratted out his buddies and government)

There is a real question as to whether Kerry got CIA agents killed (including the one who gave him his "lucky hat") by dropping them off (according to him) and then exposing them to the enemy while they were in combat.

Kerry had nothing to offer and brought nothing to the table, there was no common sense reason to "send him into Cambodia" as he claims.

also, notice how he typically casts himself as the "above it all" mentor for the CIA guys in that he was risking his life to get them in. (what a POS poseur!!)

What an insult this "4 month" wannabe is to REAL soldiers who had real training and conducted real mission, the least of which could beat the crap out of this whiner hippy without even breaking a sweat.


28 posted on 08/23/2004 8:28:18 AM PDT by Chewbacco (I actually had a tagline, before I erased it)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

May I posit a 4th possibility? He is a liar who has repeated this "story" so often that he has come to believe his own lies.


29 posted on 08/23/2004 8:54:37 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Guilty as charged, Your Honor; I DID contribute to the Swiftboat vets campaign ads.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I pick A. We know Kerry lied over 50 times that he was in Cambodia on Xmas Eve. Now that it is proven to be a bogus story, we have a new timeframe. He was lying about Xmas Eve and he is lying now about his forays into Cambodia. He is a serial liar.


30 posted on 08/23/2004 8:58:23 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
They keep switching the story due to their spin. Like a little kid caught in a lie. They are digging their own grave. They are stirring the s___t real good, it is starting to smell and they are losing veterans votes by the hundreds of thousands across the land. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

I still am inclined to go with "A"; however lets see what additional spinning they come up with.

31 posted on 08/23/2004 9:09:47 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Hitlery Recently Seen Throwing Banana Peels in Front of Kerry and Edwards' Residences)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
This is the BEST "Bang for your political buck" - EVER!

Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.


32 posted on 08/23/2004 9:33:57 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: Matchett-PI

Great photo--look at that shifty left eye.


33 posted on 08/23/2004 9:42:07 AM PDT by maro
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To: stockpirate

Kerry remembers being in Cambodia before he remembered he was not in Cambodia. The bottom line, "the liar who kept on lying." Busg/Cheney 2004


34 posted on 08/23/2004 10:23:14 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic" "Xin Loi My Boy")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Just wait til Mom and Pop in Flyover Country find out that Kerry's photo is on the wall in some war memorabilia museum in Hanoi.


35 posted on 08/23/2004 10:25:43 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: HenryLeeII

Might be a skizo too boot!! Maybe when he was an irishman he spent time in Cambodia?


36 posted on 08/23/2004 12:08:00 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: Gimme

I think he is. He's like Gore in the sense that he's had such a pampered and disconnected life that he's been able to just lie his way through the lower levels, but now that he's in the big leagues he doesn't know that he'll be outed. He may also be unable to separate fact from fiction when it comes to stuff that happened so long ago, or as you said, he "might be a skizo too boot!!"


37 posted on 08/23/2004 12:25:08 PM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: HenryLeeII

"Disconnected" (mild) although I believe Kerry is a truly evil man bent on his place in history and writing it himself all the way. Fails so see how his actions in 1971 hurt thousands of people, failed to bring any closure to the families of the POW/MIA's and how he was ever appointed Chairman of the Senate Select Committee, since by his own admission he negotiated illegally with an enemy government, I will never know. Evil man!! No end to his boldness and treachery.


38 posted on 08/23/2004 1:13:27 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: AmericanInTokyo

"Senator Kerry was in illegally Cambodia but was not a part of US government covert operations."

Not likely considering he was only in Viet Nam for a total of four months. Didn't Kerry have someone film the chopping of the pine Christmas tree?


39 posted on 08/23/2004 1:16:14 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: gathersnomoss

Well, if we can figure a way to open up a F.O.I.A. quamire into this, that would be good. The guy's nutso, that's for sure. I don't think he nor his wife enough in them to take the next three months, if it is a matter of the TRUTH hitting them straight, every day hereafter.


40 posted on 08/23/2004 1:20:07 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Hitlery Recently Seen Throwing Banana Peels in Front of Kerry and Edwards' Residences)
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