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Posted on 08/12/2004 9:46:18 PM PDT by LTCJ
In trying to get my daughter's system somewhat inocculated against what is sure to be an onslot of malware through her dorm's intranet hookup, I attempted to install the newly released XP SP2 tonight. I felt farely confident after having applied the service pack to my own XP Pro installation first. That system at least booted up after the upgrade. Not so for her hapless system.
After the automatic system backup for uninstall purposes (all is right with the world - what? me worry?) and the obligatory "you must reboot" message, the system came up with the nostalgic Blue Screen of Death:
STOP: c000021a {Fatal System Error}
The Windows Logon Process system process terminated with a status of 0xc0000005 {0x00000000 0x00000000}.
The system has been shut down.
After a few hours of searching, monkeying around with the recovery console, and genrally uncharitable thoughts about Washington state in general, I came across the above article.
Bless her heart, my daughter takes the whole thing philosophically and doesn't seem to mind a total nuk'ing & reinstalltion of her system/files. I'd much prefer nuking Microsoft but, in the interest of time, we'll have to go her way. This time.
So, gentle reader, I wish you better fortune than I had - but forewarned is forearmed. SP2 doesn't appear to be completely ready for Prime Time, unless you're a project manager for M$.
A pox on their house.
Did you load the entire thing, or allow MS to do it through the upgrade site that only loads selected portions of the patch after reading the system?
I am not upgrading, ever!!
Installing beta releases, as the authors of this article did, is always risky, but to tag the final release of SP2 with anecdotal FUD isn't appropriate.
I've been around long enough to know to never to apply a Service Pack on day 1. Experience earned the hard way. Anybody remember the exciting "Doublespace" fun with DOS 5.
Never install beta software unless you want to be a guinea pig for Microsoft. The final release of Service Pack 2 should be free of the aforementioned problems.
How did you get the update, since I just went to windows update and XP sp2 was not offered to me?
This crap from MS is bad, because it makes people reluctant to update their systems, meanwhile the internet is overrun with messages from home pcs that have been highjacked.
Looking over the stuff that sp2 "fixed" though, I think that as long as you are a sensible person, and have a firewall like zonealarm (that shows outgoing requests, as well as protects from incoming), use a browser that is not MS, and don't download crap from websites that you don't know, then you should be allset.
Just my opinon anyway.
Yeah the antivirus stuff is iffy in my opinion, as long as you don't open e-mail attachments and have a good firewall/secure browser, there isn't really anway to get a virus.
Unfortunately, most games require the MS operating system.
Two SP2 installations on Dell machines with nary a hitch. Perhaps I am lucky.
I used the early release version designed for network deployment.
Backing up files before any upgrade, and as a matter or routine regardless is a good idea.
o conflicts with Norton CE 7.61, but the MS security center feature lists the AV functioning status as "unknown". Big deal, it is there and working.
SP2 casulty Ping.
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I downloaded the 272MB version and I've installed it on 5 computers of varying types with no problems whatsoever.
The firewall is easy to disable if you don't need it and the pop-up blocker in IE means I don't need Google's toolbar anymore.
I had been using Mozilla Firefox but I didn't like some of the bugs. It wouldn't return to the same part of a page when you hit the back button and it wouldn't show followed links by changing their color. VERY annoying for eBay users like me.
I'll just wait for IE7 to get tabbed windows.
The SP-1 pack had compatibility issues with things like A/V progs and the like and was improved over time.
I expect the SP-2 to be the same way.
I posed the question about waiting for the download via the automated system, because MS has warned users about downloading the BETA. They know it will have some issues, not with their programs, but with other vendors stuff.
My point is, why blame MS. They cannot possibly foresee all the different hardware and software issues that mat result from any upgrade or patch. It is impossible to know what combination of stuff a user has unless the system is scanned. Laptops and home PCs have many variances, for example.
Best thing to do is to wait for MS to do it through the automated system. I have all of mine turned on and waiting.
The article was about a beta release. My experience was with the final full downloaded from their site and burned to CD. I installed it on two computers with 50% casualties.
See post 16.
Yeah, one of these days I'm going to take a stab at some Linux distro.
I do more than internet & e-mail. I also use MS Office & other applications on a daily basis (any pda's synching w/ a linux box yet?).
And, I don't think a home user should be installing a service pack, until it is available from the windowsupdate.microsoft.com site...if MS doesn't feel good enough about it to put it there, then I don't think "normal" people should be installing it.
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