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Scott Peterson's Mask of Sanity, "The Shining" and Kubricks Psychopaths In Cinema
Society and Human Nature ^
| 1990
| Gordon Banks
Posted on 08/12/2004 10:30:46 AM PDT by Helms
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posted on
08/12/2004 10:30:47 AM PDT
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Helms
To: Helms
Kubrick is expressing an idea here that accords with Sowell's[16] description of the "constrained" view of human nature which posits that it is flawed and largely fixed, and that efforts to build utopias will invariably founder on the rocks of human failings and will reflect the imperfections of their builders. Variations on this view have been held by such historical figures as Adam Smith, Alexander Hamilton, Edmund Burke, Thomas Hobbes, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Friedrich Hayek, and Milton Friedman. The opposing view, that man is (at least somewhat) perfectible, or that the evil in the world is mainly the result of bad social institutions has been the view of Godwin, Rousseau, John Stuart Mill, Thomas Paine, Jefferson, Voltaire, Ronald Dworkin, and John Kenneth Galbraith. The constrained vision has been characterized as cynical, conservative, pessimistic, as opposed to the romantic, liberal, optimistic, idealistic unconstrained vision of man. Sowell points out that the person's view of human nature often serves as a litmus test that can predict which side of a given controversy the person will come down on, with holders of the constrained vision opposing holders of the unconstrained view across a spectrum of religious, social, and political issues. Often, people at opposite poles have great difficulty communicating with and understanding each other, since their basic premises are so different.
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posted on
08/12/2004 10:35:47 AM PDT
by
Helms
( And the Sand - Monkeys saw that the sand had become glass and the light shown as from Two Suns)
To: Helms
While the psychopath has likes and dislikes and fondness for the pleasures that human company can bring, analysis shows that he is completely egocentric, valuing others only for their enhancement of his own pleasure or status. While he gives no real love, he is quite capable of inspiring love of sometimes fanatical degree in others. He is generally superficially charming and often makes a striking impression as possessed of the noblest of human qualities. He makes friends easily, and is very manipulative, using his ability with words to talk his way out of trouble. Many psychopaths love to be admired and bask in the adulation of others. With the lack of love, there is also a lack of empathy. The psychopath is unable to feel sorry for others in unfortunate situations or put himself in another's place, whether or not they have been harmed by him. . . . While psychopaths are notably sexually promiscuous, their inability to love or to show any but the most superficial kindness to others prevents them from forming meaningful relationships with others, including parents and spouses. The promiscuity seems more related to their lack of restraint than to an exaggerated sexual drive. Bizarre and indecent liaisons are common. Dominance and power are recurring themes in the social relations of psychopaths. . . . They are attracted to certain vocations having great opportunity for exerting power such as politics, the law, or medicine. . . .While the psychopath is charming and makes friends easily, those who come to rely upon him soon painfully find out that he has no sense of responsibility. Continually promises are made and broken without regard for the gravity of the consequences, for which the psychopath will then deny responsibility. He can solemnly lie while looking the victim in the eye, showing no anxiety whatever. . . There is a tendency toward continual excitement and stimulation. This impulsiveness may lead to a scandal or to the commission of a . . . rape, or other crime. It is this obliviousness to the consequences of risk taking that often leads to the uncovering of a "successful" psychopath who was previously well esconced as a doctor, lawyer, teacher, politician, or some other respected person in the community. Hey, here's a neat idea. Let's elect one as President.
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posted on
08/12/2004 10:44:57 AM PDT
by
Tribune7
To: Tribune7
"Hey, here's a neat idea. Let's elect one as President. "
LOL. Thought we did with Clinton.
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posted on
08/12/2004 10:46:37 AM PDT
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Helms
( And the Sand - Monkeys saw that the sand had become glass and the light shown as from Two Suns)
To: Helms
I always liked P.R. Deltoid.
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posted on
08/12/2004 10:47:28 AM PDT
by
martin_fierro
(Let's Droll!)
To: martin_fierro
I liked 'The Vixens' and 'The Super Vixens'.
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posted on
08/12/2004 10:48:30 AM PDT
by
bankwalker
(We are having a cultural civil war and our side had better win it.)
To: Helms
I can honestly say Scott Peterson is the first person I've ever heard say this movie was their favorite one.
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posted on
08/12/2004 10:49:30 AM PDT
by
Howlin
(Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
To: Helms
Psychopaths do tend to make "great" candidates for elective office, of this there is no doubt.
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posted on
08/12/2004 10:52:19 AM PDT
by
NCPAC
((Live without Fear: Don't worry about what may happen. Concentrate on what must be done.))
To: Helms
D'onofrio as Leonard "Pvt. Pyle" Lawrence.
To: Helms
LOL. Thought we did with Clinton. Exactly. Look at the characteristics of a psychopath & compare to Slick's actions.
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posted on
08/12/2004 11:00:30 AM PDT
by
Tribune7
To: Helms
Psychopaths are, in a twisted way, "other directed". Having no compass of their own, they can be counted on to say whatever pleases those around them. Ordinary people can be taken in once or twice by a psychopath, but eventually learn. Democrats, on the other hand, will always say, "thank you sir, may I have another." The only democrat presidents I cn think of who were not psychopaths were Truman and Carter, and they seem to have been placeholders in the democrat pantheon.
I reserve judgement on Nixon. He lost me with wage and price controls. But Ike, Reagan and both Bushes are inner directed. This terrifies democrats because it implies it is normal and expected that people will be responsible for their own behavior -- in other words, be adults.
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posted on
08/12/2004 11:07:22 AM PDT
by
js1138
(In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
To: Helms
Good article. I think Scott Peterson fits that description, as do Clinton and Kerry, to name a few.
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posted on
08/12/2004 11:07:40 AM PDT
by
TheSpottedOwl
("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
To: Helms
Your post # 2 is perhaps the most simple and basic statement of what this is all about that I have ever seen posted here at FR.
Mark me on the "constrained" side.
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posted on
08/12/2004 11:14:15 AM PDT
by
Zionist Conspirator
(What part of "lo yihyeh lekhah 'elohim 'acherim `al panay" DON'T you understand???)
To: Helms
My favorite film is Willie Wonka. Should my wife be worried?
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posted on
08/12/2004 11:14:48 AM PDT
by
Spok
To: Helms
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posted on
08/12/2004 11:17:23 AM PDT
by
Ditter
To: Helms
Fascinating stuff.
This quote by Kubrick is especially important:
"The idea that social restraints are all bad is based on a utopian and unrealistic vision of man."
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posted on
08/12/2004 11:20:54 AM PDT
by
bikepacker67
(Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
To: Liz; TaxRelief; Howlin; Hillary's Lovely Legs
Scott Peterson's "greatest movie" choice ping !
There are high functioning psychopaths (WJC)and then there is the more or less functioning but killing kind.
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posted on
08/12/2004 11:20:57 AM PDT
by
Helms
( And the Sand - Monkeys saw that the sand had become glass and the light shown as from Two Suns)
To: Helms
I thought by bringing their names up specifically, the author was implying he thought Nixon and Carter were psychopathic.
Leni
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posted on
08/12/2004 11:26:46 AM PDT
by
MinuteGal
(Stop Global Whining)
To: bikepacker67; Zionist Conspirator
"The idea that social restraints are all bad is based on a utopian and unrealistic vision of man."
Interesting re Sowell.
It also accords so well with the visions of Postmodernist neo-neo-Liberals/ the Left. In fact many of the Left may hate their human nature and in turn hate themselves.
I have also thought that the Left is more pessimistic and self loathing than the Right who is more optimistic and realizes man is a flawed but heroic species which the Judeo-Christian tradition embraces more than Postmodernist philosophies.
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posted on
08/12/2004 11:32:44 AM PDT
by
Helms
( And the Sand - Monkeys saw that the sand had become glass and the light shown as from Two Suns)
To: Helms
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posted on
08/12/2004 12:12:30 PM PDT
by
King Prout
("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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