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New Claims Surround Anti-Kerry Ad
The New York Times ^ | Saturday, August 7, 2004 | Jim Rutenberg

Posted on 08/06/2004 8:06:14 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: zygoat
Kerry faces a multifront series of charges on his past. His Vietnam experiences (as he spun them at the DNC Convention) need to be challenged (and the public needs to be made aware of his post-service Vietnam War activities).

His voting record (as well as his lack of votes) are also open for discussion.

The swiftboat vets can only air their ad legally for the next month (unless they want to challenge CFR laws in the Supreme Court as unconstitutional, and I believe these laws should be struck down as censorship).

The swiftboat veterans have been trying to give their story exposure all year. Now is when we focus on it. Kerry has NO issues at this time except he is "anybody but Bush" and "a Vietnam War Hero".

John Kerry has deliberately kept himself an anonymous figure this campaign. Something for everyone with photos of him: snowboarding, waterskiing, yachting, bicycling, motorcycling, tossing a baseball, tossing a football, playing guitar, playing guitar with a cowboy hat, playing guitar with a folk singer, waving corn, crawling in a dust free "bunny suit" at NASA, "eating" at Wendy's, "talking with" enlisted men at Wendy's, re-enactment footage of him "in action" in Vietnam, Kerry seen stalking John Lennon, Kerry talking to cows, et al...

61 posted on 08/06/2004 8:57:16 PM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: tobyhill
NY Times doesn't mention the Boston Globe writer. Could it be that the writer is working on Kerry's book?

Oh? From further along in the story:
The Globe found itself further embroiled in the fight when the online Drudge Report posted an article contending that the reporter who wrote the piece about Commander Elliott, Michael Kranish, had been "Commissioned to Write Official Campaign Book Foreword - While Covering Kerry."

62 posted on 08/06/2004 9:00:40 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Rokke

>>Of course the NYT's isn't a real news organization. That's why hell has frozen over. This article was something
similar to reporting.

LOL!


63 posted on 08/06/2004 9:03:43 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: Bahbah

FYI
From Hugh Hewitt:
"Boston Globe editor Martin Baron put out a statement today stating that "[i]t is completely untrue that Boston Globe reporter Michael Kranish ever contracted to write for a Kerry campaign publication. Earlier this summer, Mr. Kranish worked with Public Affairs, the publisher of the Boston Globe biography of Kerry...to write a short introduction to a second project: an independent, unauthorized review of publicly available documents dealing with the platform and policy statements of Kerry and Edwards. When Public Affairs subsequently struck an agreement with the Kerry campaign to do an official book, Kranish's relationship with the project immediately ended."

The last sentence is very interesting because I don't know how it is if it never was?


64 posted on 08/06/2004 9:03:47 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: aruanan
I got lazy eye and initially missed it.
65 posted on 08/06/2004 9:05:49 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: tobyhill
Check out this thread of anti-john kerry signs!
66 posted on 08/06/2004 9:06:44 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: sweetliberty
Check out this thread of anti-john kerry signs!
67 posted on 08/06/2004 9:06:58 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Good signs!


68 posted on 08/06/2004 9:07:56 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: montag813
" Are Democrats, are Americans ready to elect a man who committed a war crime?"

The democRATs who know, don't care and the rest will never know, thanks to the media's complicity. They will all answer for their crimes against the people one of these days. You reap what you sow. They've sown nothing but hatred, dishonesty and dishonor. Their tongues are incessantly wagging with destructive words and they shamelessly parade their contemptable behavior before any audience of opportunity and manipulate the gullible to their own self-serving ends. They are empowered by the fires of hell itself and the time will come when those fires will consume the evil they've wrought and they will be held accountable.

69 posted on 08/06/2004 9:10:35 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: kristinn

The Boston Globe, New England's largest circulation newspaper, is a wholly owned subsidiary of The New York Times. That says it all in terms of their perspective and Jayson Blair-like reporting.


70 posted on 08/06/2004 9:11:01 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Tamsey
"...the NYT completely skips over the refusal of Kerry to release his military and medical records which would clear up all questions about this "controversy".

I'm sure they're just waiting for Bush to release his. Yes, I know he already did.

71 posted on 08/06/2004 9:14:22 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: tobyhill
I got lazy eye and initially missed it.

I hate it when I do that and see it only after hitting "post".
72 posted on 08/06/2004 9:15:44 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: what's up
I don't think this was a war crime. As I understand it, the problem is that Kerry was awarded a silver star for simply killing a person.

I don't think most Americans consider it fair play to kill a wounded man by shooting him in the back as he is fleeing.

73 posted on 08/06/2004 9:16:47 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: aruanan

I usually get the lazy eye when reading from the NY Times. I just assume it's all going to be BS.


74 posted on 08/06/2004 9:17:15 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: zygoat
I know that this thread is about Vietnam, but I believe that Vietnam is exactly what Kerry/Dims want us to be discussing.

They sure as hell don't want us discussing it on these terms. They wanted us to swallow the whole "war hero" myth without question, to accept the word of Kerry and his "band of brothers" that he was "The Real Deal." And I believe he actually thought he could get away with it, that he could shut down any pesky questions with a cold stare down his nose and a haughty "Do you know who I am?" If nothing else, these Swift Boat Vets have taken that away from him. Any time he trots out his Purple Hearts and his stories about his heroism, he'll be looking over his shoulder.

This whole thing has opened up serious and legitimate questions about the veracity and the character of this man who would be our president in a time of war. Kerry chose to make his service in Vietnam the centerpiece of his campaign. Kerry made those four months of service his credentials for fighting the war on terror. And Kerry started with the attacks on service records by letting his cronies accuse the Presdient of being AWOL from the National Guard. Kerry brough all this on himself, and his shrill, almost irrational lashing out in all directions is telling us all that much more about his character (or lack thereof).

75 posted on 08/06/2004 9:22:48 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ( John F'in Kerry - the gift that keeps on giving to the Bush campaign.)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
"for Kerry to demand and receive a medal of valor for this-is incomprehensible."

Which simply means that he was an arrogant @$$h*le with an agenda, even back then. The only thing that's changed is he's had lots of time to practice becoming a bigger @$$h*le.

76 posted on 08/06/2004 9:25:53 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: weegee
I'm not saying that I'm not enjoying the beating he's taking now from the Swift boat Veterans. I believe every word these great men have to say, and I'd love to see them keep it up until the day G.W.Bush is reelected. It's just that the DNC has somehow bribed a few of their brethren to stump for this miscreant.(or maybe they're actually "true believers"...ugh) The sheeple will see this because of the media's attempt to give equal time to this minor fraction of his fellow servicemen.I have no doubt that this is damaging Kerry, but our homegrown Pravda will spin it like the screws (propellers) of one of the boats. His voting record will be the current that sucks him under, and none of his comrades will be able to throw him a life ring. Bon Voyage to the botoxed buffoon.
77 posted on 08/06/2004 9:31:15 PM PDT by zygoat
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To: Archie Kins
...sKerry shot all of those Viet Nam villagers in the back...

What are you talking about? Kerry didn't shoot "all those VN villagers in the back". He is said to have shot one VC in the back, after this VC surprised them with a rocket launcher; He was wounded by a crewmate , dropped his rocket launcher, and was fleeing.

Don't get carried away with lies and half-truths. It's counter productive.

And, welcome to Free Republic.
78 posted on 08/06/2004 9:37:37 PM PDT by baseballmom (Michael Moore - An un-American Hatriot)
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To: kristinn
Why is this being touted as an "Anti-Kerry" ad"? I don't recall hearing any of the Democrat ads being labeled "Anti-Bush".

Becki

79 posted on 08/06/2004 9:57:04 PM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops.)
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To: weegee
Last night/this morning Tony Snow played extended quotes from Kerry

Shoot... I wish I had seen it!

BTW, I've been hoping to run into you :-) You made a funny poster at the Kerry-Edwards sign generator site, it had a hilarious quote from Kerry. Where did you find that???? My kids came to see what I was laughing about :-)

80 posted on 08/06/2004 10:03:51 PM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these classified documents make me look fat?)
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