Posted on 08/04/2004 3:05:34 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian
What business is it of the government's what anyone choses to do in the privacy of their own bedroom? This is lunacy, pure and simple.
You have a point --- although I don't agree with the ban, it doesn't violate any right to privacy.
Sales and advertising are inherently public things.
Wrong. See the second sentence in the article:
Alabamians can still use, improvise, borrow (not recommended by Slate or its legal counsel), or import from out-of-state the latex items of their choosing.
Don't forget the gov't can also throw you in jail if you refuse to fund things like reproductive services, AIDS education, AIDS drugs and research, etc... The privacy doctrine of the left goes out the window when the consequences of their choices start piling up.
See my #23.
States violate due process to enact irrational sex laws based on vague claims about public morality.
The idea that folks need or want government regulating this, is disgusting. It's not conservatism, its religious socialism run amouk, and hiding within our ranks.
Folks who support this kind of "churchlady" intrusions by the state... need to form their own "christian socialist" party, where they can install their very own theocratic choir of nutcakes to continually update the morally unacceptable products of the day...
In Ohio, it was deemed illegal for women to wear patent leather shoes... because MEN might see up their skirts in the reflections... and the law is still in place...
Stupid, moralistic, religious-anti-sex theocrats are nothing new. But we are not as good at making it work as are others. Making "moral laws" and "morality enforcement squads" are much more efficient in Nations RUN by Islamic extremists and terrorists.
Moral religious fanatical "enforcers" are the kind of folks who pulled 9/11. STRESS here is on the fanatical "enforcers", NOT the idea that we can all benefit from living moral lives... and should.
We need to move away from the "morality police" concepts that are driving the current crop of "christian socialists" in government... encouraging them just makes thir followers even more extreme.
Tomorrow morning "liberty" will mean whatever the court wants to allow then.
Tomorrow afternoon "liberty" will mean whatever the court wants to allow then.
Voting, writing constitutions and laws- what a bore! Now we gots it made!
Free at last! Free at last! Thank the judges we're free at last!
????? I guess I'll have to read later...'cause I don't understand what on earth 'sex toys' are doing in the courts!!!!!
It most certainly does, it's just being couched differently. Even in states where liquor sales are regulated to the teeth, you can still purchase it legally and use it in your home. Why should this be any different?
Competing with the lawyers.
We the people have always had a fundamental right to privacy, sexual or otherwise. The power to infringe upon our private acts has never been granted to ANY level of government.
-- Prohibitions, - fiat decrees on private property or private acts, -- are repugnant to the principles of our Constitution.
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I have to agree, but the ban is not on ownership or use, just sales and advertising.
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Part of the ban on assault weapons in CA is ~just~ a prohibition on sales & advertising.
I can't sell or even give away some 'assault' weapons I own to other residents of this State. These evil guns must be turned over to the state for disposal at my death.
:^)
The town I live in used to have "adult" stores right on the bypass running through it at both ends of town. We ran them out because they were dives, a magnet for trouble and were complained endlessly about. It gave our town an image we didn't wish as a community, on and on and on. The town sued and shut them down when I was still a kid. And I have to say as an adult, I'm glad it was done or I'd be campaigning to get it done. People can do as they wish in private; but I don't want it in my face nor the crap that went with it. I think this is right on the money. They aren't saying these people can't buy the stuff; but, they're setting community standards which is the right of the community under the Obscenity laws of the land.
A very difficult balancing act on a very high wire and no safety net. I have no problem with adult stores as long as they are discreet.
You can purchase a vibrator in Georgia and go home and do what you want with it in Alabama.
This is not a privacy issue.
Sales and advertising are inherently not private ventures.
Use another argument.
mrsmith wrote:
Lawrence clearly said that "liberty", in the Constitution, means the right to any activity the court wants to allow now.
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I'll bet you can't come up with a cite from 'Lawrence' that supports your statement.
I haven't seen too many "discreet" adult stores in my travels.
Haven't seen too many that didn't largely look like the afterthought bathrooms at a campsite either. But my experience in driving past them in the few places I've seen them may be limited, so I'll admit that much LOL. It is a difficult balancing act, I'll agree. But, it's not exactly something you can just let go either. I think a lot of the problems we have with porn in this society stems from parents not sitting down and having "the talk" with their kids in an appropriate fashion. I know my parents left it up to me to find out on my own and it got me in trouble at an early age. Not huge; but, it was definitely embarassing.
I am an artist and drew pictures of women taking their
clothes off using Sears catalogs as a basis and my imagination from what I'd seen.. to fill in the details. It came up in questioning during a custody hearing. But, the funny thing is, during the break I went downstairs in the courthouse and when going back upstairs ended up in the elevator with the gorgeous female Court reporter who turned to me and winked and told me I did good work. I really appreciated her for that. Took some of the edge off.
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