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Defamation of Prophet Muhammed Should be declared int'l crime: Fazl
Pakistan News ^ | Aug. 2, 2004

Posted on 08/02/2004 3:20:59 PM PDT by Alouette

BIRMINGHAM, Aug 2: Opposition Leader in National Assembly Maulana Fazlur Rehman on Monday demanded that the United Nations should declare the defamation of Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) an international crime.

Addressing a large gathering here, Maulana Fazl said the UN needed to adopt a blasphemy law to protect the honour of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and respected figures of other religions and faiths.

He denounced the anti-Islamic attitude by the West and spurned as baseless charges of involvement of Muslims in terrorist acts.

Maulana Fazlur Rehman said Muslims were being victimized in the name of terrorism despite that fact they themselves were a target of violence.

He said terrorist acts in Muslim countries was an intrigue to defame the Ummah and to destabilize targeted states.

He said Ummah should dedicate a special fund to curb the anti-Islamic forces, especially the activities of the Qadiyanis/Ahmadis.

Maulana Fazl said Europe should not consider Muslims an enemy but study Islamic teachings.

He said to fight terrorism with terrorism was leading the world to destruction.

He said a great number of Qadiyanis were converting to Islam.

He said attempts to repeal or amend the blasphemy law and Hudood Ordinance in the Muslim countries were under duress by western countries.

Fazl said to differentiate between Jihad and terrorism was need of the hour.

"Those who declare Islam as a religion of terrorism are the real fanatics and extremists", he said.

He said Muslims were ready to render every sacrifice to protect the honour and sanctity of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the belief of finality of his prophethood.

The ratio of conversion to Islam had raised very much after 9/11 incidents, he said, adding that negative reports against Islam, Muslims and Islamic states were published by the western media after Qadiyanis and Ahmadis restored to malicious propaganda in this regard.

"Muslim countries should raise their voices in the UN for the protection of the honour and sanctity of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the belief of Khatme Nubuwwat", he said.

Maulana Khawaja Khan Muhammad who presided over the conference said Muslim countries should impose a ban on anti-Islamic activities of the Qadiyanis and Ahmadis.

Chancellor of Binnori Town Madrassa, Dr. Abdur Razzaq Iskandar said allegations that religious seminaries (deeni madaris) were involved in terrorism were absolutely false.

He said the madaris imparted Islam's message of peace and harmony and never indulged in terrorism.

He said, "the European countries are now sensing the need of a dialogue with Islam and the Muslim countries instead of eliminating Islam."

He said the UN should adopt a resolution to stop the Qadiyanis from impersonating themselves as Muslims and defaming Islam and Muslims.

Mufti Muhammad Ahmad from Germany, Raja Bashir Ahmad from Denmark, Maulana Abdul Haleem Farooqi Lucknowi from India, Mufti Mohiuddin from Bangladesh, Maulana Abdul Majeed Anwar, Maulana Muhammad Yahya Ludhianvi, Qari Khubaib Ahmad Umar, Maulana Ashraf Ali from Pakistan, including local scholars Maulana Abdur Rasheed Rabbani, Mufti Muhammad Aslam, Qari Ismail Rashidi, Maulana Fazal Dad, Maulana Ibrahim also spoke on the occasion.

Scholars and participants from all European countries including Great Britain, Germany, Norway, Belgium, Denmark, as well as Pakistan, India, Bangladesh attended the conference. More than 20,000 people participated in the conference.-Online


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: beheading; blasphemy; islam; muhammed; muslims; pedophilia; rape; ropma
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If they bring this idiotic proposal before the U.N. and demand to have it declared international law (after slicing off a few heads) how long will it take for the U.N. to cave?
1 posted on 08/02/2004 3:21:02 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: SJackson; yonif

Ping your Mideast lists; I don't have access to mine.


2 posted on 08/02/2004 3:21:50 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: Alouette
If they bring this idiotic proposal before the U.N. and demand to have it declared international law (after slicing off a few heads) how long will it take for the U.N. to cave?

Many are the Freepers who would advocate the same proposal for Jesus Christ.

3 posted on 08/02/2004 3:22:14 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni
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To: SedVictaCatoni
Many are the Freepers who would advocate the same proposal for Jesus Christ.

I've been a FReeper four years and I have never seen any such proposal advocated here. And I'm not a Christian.

4 posted on 08/02/2004 3:24:17 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: SedVictaCatoni

How does one defame a murderous pedophile (PBHU)?


5 posted on 08/02/2004 3:24:45 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Alouette
He denounced the anti-Islamic attitude by the West and spurned as baseless charges of involvement of Muslims in terrorist acts.

Yeah, the "West" (whoever HE is) hates Muslims so badly that he flew a couple of airplanes into the Iraqi Trade Center.

Maulana Fazlur Rehman said Muslims were being victimized in the name of terrorism despite that fact they themselves were a target of violence.

Yeah, like when those trade towers jumped in front of those planes that the al-Qaida heros were trying to wrest from the suicidal passengers.

6 posted on 08/02/2004 3:26:30 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Alouette
Opposition Leader in National Assembly Maulana Fazlur Rehman on Monday demanded that the United Nations should declare the defamation of Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) an international crime.

The French ambassador to the UN promptly seconded the motion:


7 posted on 08/02/2004 3:27:08 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Alouette

When are the Muslims, or their prophet going to give respect to us infidels and Jews? If that existed, the muslims would be different and we'd have no real problems. Seems to me all this friction can be directly traced to what the Koran teaches about the infidel and the Jew.


8 posted on 08/02/2004 3:27:22 PM PDT by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Less the televised head chopping....

The point is that if Christians had brought a proposal of this nature, all demorat hell would have broken out. But since it's the muslims, they might actually consider it.


9 posted on 08/02/2004 3:28:54 PM PDT by Hi Heels
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To: Alouette

How about a fatwah against Osama. Has even one Muslim cleric in the whole world issued one?


10 posted on 08/02/2004 3:29:02 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: SedVictaCatoni
Many are the Freepers who would advocate the same proposal for Jesus Christ.

Uh, no! Believing in Jesus is a choice one must make on his own, it is an internal decision. Unlike islam where conversion by sword or your death is quite acceptable.

11 posted on 08/02/2004 3:29:59 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Alouette

Take some comfort that this came from the opposition leader in Pakistan, meaning the one NOT in power or in the majority.


12 posted on 08/02/2004 3:30:36 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Alouette

Is this the same prophet Muhammed who married a 6 year old girl and consumated the married when she turned 9 years old?


13 posted on 08/02/2004 3:34:14 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

And a ping for those on Alouette's list, she's away from her computor.

14 posted on 08/02/2004 3:34:53 PM PDT by SJackson (My opponent has good intentions, but intentions do not always translate to results, GWB)
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To: TomasUSMC
He said Muslims were ready to render every sacrifice to protect the honour and sanctity of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the belief of finality of his prophethood.

That should keep the stupid bastards busy for a while.

They can add this to their growing list of Sisyphean hobbies, such as trying to murder their way out of the 7th century...back into the 6th.

15 posted on 08/02/2004 3:35:38 PM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: Alouette
Hollywood can only show its courage by condemning Christians--but the story of Mohammed will always go untold on the silver screen. And it'd make one fabulous movie.

Madonna, Spielberg, Turner--none would dare risk their own necks to tell the truth of Mohammed.

16 posted on 08/02/2004 3:35:50 PM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-neo conservatism)
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To: Alouette

I'm going to commit a crime here...

The "prophet" Mohammed is a S*** Eating Rat Bastard!

Come Get Me!


17 posted on 08/02/2004 3:36:29 PM PDT by ThreeYearLurker
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To: Alouette

The prophet, Mohammed,(MHRIH) has NO honor to protect.

MHRIH = May He Rot In Hell


18 posted on 08/02/2004 3:36:41 PM PDT by pies
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To: Alouette

Then I shall become an international criminal.


19 posted on 08/02/2004 3:38:53 PM PDT by Sender ("Hype is on the way!" -John F'n Kerry)
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To: Alouette

Anyone have the e-mail of this ignorant sand gnat?


20 posted on 08/02/2004 3:39:42 PM PDT by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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To: TomasUSMC

Not even one in any professional football league or professional basketball either...


21 posted on 08/02/2004 3:40:03 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Alouette
Where do I turn myself in???

MIDI - BOBBY'S GIRL

I know that he wants me bad…I know that he wants me bad

I'm only 8 years old…he's still got it, I'm told
In just one year I'm gonna be his

Although I still am flat...he'll call me pussy cat
That I'm too young is nobody's biz

I will be Mohammed's girl…I will be Mohammed's girl
That is what I really want to be
When I am Mohammed's girl…I am Mohammed's girl
I know he will take good care of me

All of his wives are hags…they've turned into old bags
I am so fresh and very nubile

On me he's had his eye…he is my kind of guy
I'll be the next one he will defile

I will be Mohammed's girl…I will be Mohammed's girl
That is what I really want to be
When I am Mohammed's girl…I am Mohammed's girl
I know he will take good care of me

22 posted on 08/02/2004 3:42:42 PM PDT by doug from upland (Doug from Upland -- International Criminal)
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To: Alouette
He said to fight terrorism with terrorism was leading the world to destruction.

Bwahahahaha if you fight back you are a terrorist......leading the world to destruction...better to be destroyed than to put free men under sharia law....however it isnt the free world that will be destroyed....at least by Islam....

Watch and learn mullet head...you are a pawn....

imo

23 posted on 08/02/2004 3:44:20 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: jimbo123
Is this the same prophet Muhammed who married a 6 year old girl and consumated the married when she turned 9 years old?

Sounds like the Prophet (May He Rot in Hell) was er, cursed with a small, er package.

24 posted on 08/02/2004 3:44:23 PM PDT by Comus (Democrats would rather reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.)
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Maybe you could point out the post or the poster?

I have been around here more than 6 years and have never seen it.

You made the claim, not back it up.


25 posted on 08/02/2004 3:45:05 PM PDT by Guillermo (John 'fn Kerry is an 'fn punk)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
Many are the Freepers who would advocate the same proposal for Jesus Christ.


Prove it. This site has a search engine, I am sure you should be able to find proof that "many" have advocated what you said.

26 posted on 08/02/2004 3:45:46 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Alouette

Would this include something like saying, "Eff the Prophet and the camel he rode in on"?


27 posted on 08/02/2004 3:45:47 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Alouette
Q: Who are Qadiyanis?

A: Qadiyanis also known as Mirzai, Ahmadi, Lahori, etc. are a sect of people who do not believe that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the last prophet. The founder of the sect Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835 - 1908) claimed to be the Messiah whose advent has been foretold by the Holy prophet of Islam and whose advent was awaited by Jews, Christians and Muslims. The mainstream muslims do not consider Qadiyanis muslims (see below).

Q: Where and how did this all begin?

A: Begun in India, inspired and actively supported by the British colonial power. In the mid nineteenth century the British thought that Islam as the Deen of Allah was dead, but the War of Independence of 1857 and the leading role of Muslims through the spirit of Jihad, scared the British. They actively sought an alternative to real Islam. Among the many things they did, one was the foundation of a new religion in the name of Islam by the hands of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani. The British gave Mirza full support and an outline; and he filled in the details.

28 posted on 08/02/2004 3:46:04 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Alouette

"the Qadiyanis/Ahmadis."

Who is this, or are these?


29 posted on 08/02/2004 3:46:29 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Alouette

"Addressing a large gathering here, Maulana Fazl said the UN needed to adopt a blasphemy law to protect the honour of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and respected figures of other religions and faiths.

"He denounced the anti-Islamic attitude by the West and spurned as baseless charges of involvement of Muslims in terrorist acts."

I'm sure that Canada, France, Germany and Russia would very happy to make it a hate crime to insult the sexual predator, Muhammad.

Then the Franchurian Candidate, al Kerry, and his trial lawyer, Edweirds, would love to help this Islamofascist, if they contribute enough money to the DNC.


30 posted on 08/02/2004 3:46:53 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Franchurian Candidate, al Kerry said in his convention speech "Judge me by my record"...)
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To: Comus

Sounds like the Prophet Mohammed (MHRIH) is going to be getting a lot of negative press.


31 posted on 08/02/2004 3:48:10 PM PDT by Ueriah
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To: Alouette

I am strongly in favor of having the UN placed as the protector of the memory of Mohammed. I believe they would do the job exactly as well as he deserves.


32 posted on 08/02/2004 3:48:14 PM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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To: Alouette

The UN does not create International Law. The UN has no sovereign powers at all.


33 posted on 08/02/2004 3:48:21 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Put up or shut up.


34 posted on 08/02/2004 3:49:18 PM PDT by Nataku X (You hear all the time, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Muhammed"?)
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To: Alouette
"...baseless charges of involvement of Muslims in terrorist acts."

Did this guy sneak in from one of those alternate universes that Superman gets stuck in once in a while?

35 posted on 08/02/2004 3:49:27 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: pies
MHRIH = May He Rot In Hell

Ever since 9/11, I have been saying that we need to revamp our way of talking. We denigrate ourselves too much, while the Islamic peoples praise themselves way too much. A good example is that "peace be upon him" crap every time they utter the name of Mo the Molester.

So, for example, instead of saying "Goddammit" we should say "Allah be damned". Instead of saying "Jesus H. Christ when we hit ourselves on the thumb with a hammer, say "Muhammad the Dog!!!!!" Those are who we should be cursing. And I never noticed before, but now I do notice when someone uses "Christ" as a curse, and on TV, more often than not, it's a non-Christian. I think we need to have a little more sensitivity.

36 posted on 08/02/2004 3:50:41 PM PDT by Defiant ("Hi, Billy Blythe, nice to meet ya. I'm John Kohn.")
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Lets be fair.

Expecting anyone to depend on the search engine from FR to prove anything was posted is just cruel.


37 posted on 08/02/2004 3:50:44 PM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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To: Alouette

Dear Muslims:

I have no wish to insult Islam or Muhammed, but as a citizen of a country that cherishes free speech, I will slander Muhammed any time I please.

If you don't like this, I can only advise you: get used to it.

Sincerely,

Quadrant


38 posted on 08/02/2004 3:50:49 PM PDT by quadrant
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To: Alouette

Here is what ex-Muslims say:

"One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives and their “right hand possessions” (Quran 33:50) He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way. Muhammad was a narcissist like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified."

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/main.htm


39 posted on 08/02/2004 3:50:55 PM PDT by OK
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To: Alouette
mohammed is the unclean fruit of the joining of a pig and a dog. And that's her most positive attribute.


40 posted on 08/02/2004 3:51:08 PM PDT by neutrino (Lord, what fools these mortals be! (William Shakespeare, Midsummer Nights Dream))
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To: Alouette

I actually hope this passes, just to make it blindingly obvious that the UN is run by terrorist apologists and would-be tyrants.


41 posted on 08/02/2004 3:51:32 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: Alouette
Opposition Leader in National Assembly Maulana Fazlur Rehman

The the crack smoking certifiable lunatic: The only reason Satan's throne, Mecca and the demon pit, Medina still stand are because of Christian mercy.

42 posted on 08/02/2004 3:51:45 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Many a law, many a commandment have I broken, but my word never.)
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To: Alouette

your loss-i'll pray for you


43 posted on 08/02/2004 3:53:03 PM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: Grampa Dave

Not Russia. They have outlawed Wahabbism. They are more advanced than we are.


44 posted on 08/02/2004 3:53:07 PM PDT by OK
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To: Alouette
Piss be Upon Him

Ok, Kofi, now come and arrest me

45 posted on 08/02/2004 3:53:40 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: Alouette
"He denounced the anti-Islamic attitude by the West and spurned as baseless charges of involvement of Muslims in terrorist acts."

After a stupid ass statement like that -- they will cheer him at the U.N...

Folks -- we have to LEAVE and DEFUND the U.N...
Then set about to make live miserable and short for ALL militant Islamic lunatics.

Semper Fi

46 posted on 08/02/2004 3:53:50 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
Many are the Freepers who would advocate the same proposal for Jesus Christ.

You are such a liar!

47 posted on 08/02/2004 3:54:06 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Alouette
mad mo can go bugger a duck
and the muzzys and the UN can lump it

now I have committed a crime :p
48 posted on 08/02/2004 3:54:57 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: Alouette

EFF allah


49 posted on 08/02/2004 3:56:38 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: Alouette
Opposition Leader in National Assembly Maulana Fazlur Rehman on Monday demanded that the United Nations should declare the defamation of Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) an international crime.

I say that Mohammed is a murderer, thief, liar, lunatic, pedophile and blaspheming heretic. He is an infidel and a servant of Satan.

I just wanted to get on record so they know who to indict when this becomes law.

50 posted on 08/02/2004 3:56:51 PM PDT by pgkdan
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