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Plan would dump Colorado's winner-take-all vote in Nov.
The Rocky Mountain News ^ | 7/31/04 | John J. Sanko

Posted on 07/31/2004 6:04:04 AM PDT by mondoman

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To: Congressman Billybob

Exactly. Nebraska's system is not as crazy as this..it actually makes some sense and is decently fair and gives folks a say.

But this is just outrageous......this is Germany/French crap and I won't stand for it.

If we want to know what will happen to America if this becomes law, take a gander at the political culture of those countries.

This is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!! Not a minor issue.....A HUGE THREAT TO OUR REPUBLIC!!!!!!!!!


81 posted on 07/31/2004 5:05:26 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: FL_engineer

I prefer the NEbraska system, not the Colorado one. Nebraska's is less radical.

I pray this fails in Colorado.....it is a horrendous proposal (and unconstitutional....only the legislature can make these changes).


82 posted on 07/31/2004 5:10:17 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: mondoman
In those states, the winner of the popular vote gets two electoral votes, with the rest determined by the popular vote within each congressional district. Neither state has ever split its electoral college votes.

This is wrong: Maine has gone 3-1 several times.

83 posted on 07/31/2004 5:14:40 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Maine went 4-0 in 2000, but it was very close. Maine often goes 3-1.


84 posted on 07/31/2004 5:16:19 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: mondoman; rwfromkansas; mollynme; SauronOfMordor; deport; mdmathis6; CROSSHIGHWAYMAN; demlosers; ...
Not only would changing this years 'system' after November 1st 2004 be illegal, but the first post points out a good example of why the proposed system is NUTS....

In ANY close election, given that a MAJORITY of a state prefers Candidate A,
the new system could easily hand the overall election instead to Candidate B.

Wouldn't the MAJORITY of that state's voters be ANGRY?

85 posted on 07/31/2004 8:12:03 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: sweetliberty; mondoman

This would really open up a can of worms and battles across the landscape. Most Americans have no idea what is at stake....exactly what the lowlife rats are banking on.


86 posted on 07/31/2004 8:16:22 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: TheLion
"exactly what the lowlife rats are banking on."

As usual, depending on the stupidity of the average voter.

87 posted on 07/31/2004 8:18:06 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: sweetliberty

Someday we need to get all freepers to run for public office....think we could have some impact?


88 posted on 07/31/2004 8:24:08 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: All

As posts 27 and 64 make clear, this would be both unconstitutional (sinc it is not a law enacted by the legislature) and in violation of the United States Code since the electors must be chosen prior to the election.

We need to e-mail the SOS to make sure they know this is not even a legal initiative to go on the ballot.

This should not be voted on!

sos.elections@sos.state.co.us


89 posted on 07/31/2004 9:33:03 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: arthurus

and that is exactly the plan - the safe Dem states remain winner take all, while the Dems in a few Republican states fool those citizens into making their system "fair" by dumping winner take all.

don't be so sure the Dems can't pull this off.

At that point, if they were to get it in just a few states (like Colorado) - the only way to then make the system fair would be elimination of the electoral college. Nebraska and Maine aside, we can't have a fair elections with all the solid Dem states going winner take all, while other states go with partial allocations.


90 posted on 07/31/2004 9:42:45 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: sweetliberty

in this country, that's as sure as death and taxes.


91 posted on 07/31/2004 9:54:17 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Remember_Salamis; Bigh4u2
Maine and Nebraska already have it.

But they enacted those laws through their legislatures before the election. This referendum violates both federal law and the constitution. It would change the method of allocating the electoral college vote after the deadline specified in federal law. Read post #64. The US Constitution also states that only the state legislatures have the authority to change the method of selecting electors.

92 posted on 07/31/2004 10:22:15 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Thanks. I guess it gives something else for the Democrats to blame an electoral loss on if it's within 8 electoral votes. Think that's the strategy?

Dems in mid-Nov: "Conservative Judges once again stole an election from us."


93 posted on 07/31/2004 10:39:26 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: potlatch

More 'rat slick tricks.


94 posted on 07/31/2004 10:59:00 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: sweetliberty

It seems to me I remember this being "in discussion" mode when I lived in Colorado. Nobody in the Western Slope (western Colorado, i.e., rural conservative area) was in favor of this "great" idea. I'm sure it sprung from someone in the liberal areas, i.e., Bolder (a/k/a Berzerkley wannabees), Denver, Steamboat Springs.....


95 posted on 08/01/2004 4:30:16 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Bolder = Boulder, of course


96 posted on 08/01/2004 4:31:43 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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