Posted on 07/27/2004 7:51:30 PM PDT by jmstein7
Oh for pete's sake. It was not.
In comparison to other convention speeches I've seen over the years... it was.
You know.
I had a whole page typed out.
Fact is, I support GWB for re-election.
I was talking about hypotheticals. In all cases, I'd prefer a Texan over a douchebag from Mass.
If you think I'm a lib, go ahead. I got years to prove you wrong. I got 18 months of history to disprove it now, but I'm patient enough to give you 5 years. If I'm not dead in 2009, I want an apology from you for suggesting that I want a god damn commie to hold the highest office in the USA.
Note Obama's pedigree. What was he, editor of Harvard Law Review? This means he is a true believer. He is a good person, but his politics are toxic. I think the primary long-term antidote is to keep politics honest, while avoiding the appearance of demonizing. With subtlety, neutralize the concept of stealth liberal candidates.
I think the exact opposite is true. I think if Obama is unopposed, the Democratic house candidates will smell blood and drive greater turnout in the face of a depressed GOP electorate.
He is slightly reminiscent of Malcolm X (sans glasses) - another mixed race American...and Malcolm was a powerful speaker...
I see it just the opposite. Some are desperate to make him out to be something he is not.
Sorry, but he's not.
C'mon. Flim Flam Florio had all the charm of a cold wet rag in the middle of the night. A local hack who farmed the depths of 'Rat rich NJ.
This dude seriously worries me. We need to get someone from our 'farm system'....
And I would have never dreamt of mocking his name, but it is a fact that at least separate *democrat delegates* called Obama "Osama". Oh well.
You have a deal.
I hoped to be proved wrong.
Great personal story. But then it was the same dem talking points, just out of a different mouth. He lost me at that point.
'Lucky my ass. He was a benificary of the democrat/judicial/media slime machine.'
That may well be true - *BUT* - had Ryan not been a SCUMBAG, there would have been NOTHING to 'out'....
Any other qualifiers you wish to add after the point?
LOL
The comment was made as a flat statement and not "as far as convention speeches go" or any other such nonsense. And I consider myself as much a qualified pundit of convention speeches as anyone else.
If Obama is a real threat to Hillary, he'd best be very careful about taking drives alone. He could even suddenly develop a severe case of depression and go to an obscure park with a gun in hand..... The Clinton gang plays for keeps and will take whatever actions they deem necessary.
Obama isn't merely a liberal, but a hardcore leftist. It's remarkable how many people will make remarks about how articulate and what a reasonable person he is. I expect Lenin seemed that way at one point as well. There is nothing reasonable about a person who would turn the United States into a totalitarian gulag. In that respect he's really no different than Hillary.
I'd heard rumblings about this guy but watch out - he's a silver tongued devil with a great speech writer. I saw Je$$E J. and he looked like someone had stolen his milk money. Watch out for this man!
Having said that, I admire the guy and his acumen - so please don't write him off - he's a force to be reckoned with.
Mario had a 'cosa nostra' problem in his background; Mario also had NO appeal West of the Hudson.
This guy Obama, if he doesn't have baggage (ie slips back to crack or something) has a charisma that is not regional...he is worth keeping an eye on....
..here's your nightmare scenario...Hitlary wins the nomination in '08 and picks Obama as her running mate - he's only 46 at the time, and is primed for either '12 or '14.
I thought we were comparing speeches to speeches. What else would you like me to use as a reference?
I've seen many convention speeches and political speeches over the years also. They are rarely very good. This one was extremely strong.
Ryan was a bad husband and not a boy scout, so what? This was a very poor decision by a judge. The divorce papers should have remained sealed. We should be very wary. It is overwhelmingly likely that these decisions will tend to go mainly against Pubbies.
Hellary's VP pick if she runs in 2008???
I was just thinking the same thing .. otherwise why give him a prime time slot at the convention
He's already 20 points ahead in the IL race, so he doesn't need the exposer
I would just like to point out that those of us saying it was a strong speech are not saying we agree with his policies. Brit Hume and other Fox commentators were also extremely impressed... it doesn't mean they've turned into lefties.
But we have to understand that not everyone is a Freeper or a committed conservative. There are many independents and swing voters out there and this guy is the kind of guy who can appeal to them. We would be extremely stupid to underestimate his talent and appeal.
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