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Nine Iraqi wedding-goers killed after US tank collision
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | July 24, 2004

Posted on 07/23/2004 8:12:45 AM PDT by dead

A van carrying Iraqi civilians collided with a US tank near Baghdad, killing nine people and injuring 10 others, the US military said yesterday.

The accident occurred about 10pm on Thursday night (0400 AEST Friday), said Specialist Justin McCue, a press official of the US-led military coalition.

"The van was attempting to pass another vehicle when it collided with the tank," McCue said. "All the injured were taken to a medical facility."

There were no US or coalition casualties, McCue said. He had no other details.

There were slightly different accounts of the crash.

Iraqi police Captain Adnan Salih said nine people were killed and 18 injured in the tank collision with a bus in Tarmiyah, 50km north of Baghdad.

Salih said the fatalities included four men, four women and one child - all of whom had been attending a wedding party in Tarmiyah.

Footage taken by Associated Press Television News showed the twisted wreckage of a minibus and several bodies of accident victims covered by blankets. A small child's orange dress was found amid the wreckage and pools of blood covered the road.

US forces and Iraqi police surrounded the crash site.

An unidentified eyewitness, who said he was a passenger on the bus, told APTN the vehicle was carrying 12 people from the same family when the tank crashed into it.

"They were in a wedding party on their way from Tarmiyah to Baghdad ... (when) an American armoured vehicle hit them and left," the man said.

AP


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1 posted on 07/23/2004 8:12:46 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead

Another wedding..


2 posted on 07/23/2004 8:14:10 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Its noteworthy that the two biggest shills for the left are Michael Moore and Al Franken..)
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To: dead
What is is with the weddings in Iraq? I think if I was going to get married there I'd elope.
3 posted on 07/23/2004 8:14:24 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: dead

This is sort of like a "car-vs-train" article. One lesson I learned from driving a tank on the Autobahn - the tank always has the right-of-way.


4 posted on 07/23/2004 8:14:26 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: dead

I wonder if the air bag in the M-1 Abrams deployed?


5 posted on 07/23/2004 8:14:33 AM PDT by dirtboy (Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
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To: dead

So someone trying to pass (presumably by going into the opposite direction lane) and getting into an accident is now somehow an indictment of our military presence in Iraq?

Why is this in the news?


6 posted on 07/23/2004 8:15:05 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: dead

Amazing how many "wedding parties" seem to run into bad luck...


7 posted on 07/23/2004 8:15:25 AM PDT by linear
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To: dead
The van was attempting to pass another vehicle when it collided with the tank," McCue said.

And the lesson of the day, boys and girls, is: "Don't play Chicken with 70 tons of Detroit steel".

8 posted on 07/23/2004 8:17:46 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (Only 5 cents a troll? Must be too many of the varmints around here...)
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To: linear

Of course it would never occur to Muslims to think that maybe Allah is trying to tell them something.

It's funny how he seems to enforce his will ONLY when non-muslims get killed.


9 posted on 07/23/2004 8:18:14 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: dead
An unidentified eyewitness, who said he was a passenger on the bus, told APTN the vehicle was carrying 12 people from the same family when the tank crashed into it.

"They were in a wedding party on their way from Tarmiyah to Baghdad ... (when) an American armoured vehicle hit them and left," the man said.

An unidentified eyewitness? Why does AP print this nonsense? (as if I didn't know) First a tank crashes into a van... then an amoured vehicle hit them and left? I bet it was a bunch of neoCons at the wheel... that's it, yeah and they were drinking non-union beer and looking for a picket line to cross. Some reports said that they had a Confederate flag on the tank too.

10 posted on 07/23/2004 8:18:51 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: dead

Are you sure we can't call that tank an SUV?


11 posted on 07/23/2004 8:19:15 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: nuffsenuff
"Why is this in the news?"

Because the "news" is whatever the socialist press wants to make it.

12 posted on 07/23/2004 8:19:23 AM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II)
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To: dead

The only reason this is in the news is because it offers "evidence" of evil soldiers killing civilians. If I'm not mistaken, quite a few of our soldiers have been killed in auto accidents in Iraq.

Ive seen plenty of reporters mention that Iraqis drive like maniacs.


13 posted on 07/23/2004 8:20:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry is unbalanced)
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To: dead

""They were in a wedding party on their way from Tarmiyah to Baghdad ... (when) an American armoured vehicle hit them and left," the man said."

What, they should have stayed around, and gotten out of their tanks to see what happened?

Good way to become RPG bait.


14 posted on 07/23/2004 8:20:10 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: dead

"They were in a wedding party on their way from Tarmiyah to Baghdad ... (when) an American armoured vehicle hit them and left," the man said.

There's your punchline, right there.

Henceforward, every Iraqi traffic fatality will be the fault of Boosh, the Joos, and their armored vehicles.


15 posted on 07/23/2004 8:20:18 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Ignorance is king. Many would not prosper by its abdication.")
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To: nuffsenuff

If this van had run into a wall, it would be no news at all. I am quite confident that our soldiers are not over there crushing vanloads of wedding-goers for kicks. But you know what, if the Islamakazis stopped blowing things up all the time, there would be a lot fewer American tanks on the streets...


16 posted on 07/23/2004 8:20:38 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: dead
the vehicle was carrying 12 people from the same family when the tank crashed into it.

In the article it sounds like the van caused the crash, not the tank. They were passing another vehicle when the VAN crashed into the tank.

A little spin here............big bad tank..........

17 posted on 07/23/2004 8:20:38 AM PDT by EggsAckley (You can't be pro small business and pro trial lawyer at the same time! ** George W. Bush **)
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To: cardinal4
"Another wedding.."

And now funeral.

MEMO TO IRAQI FEDEHEEN BRIDES GETTING MARRIED:

WEAR BLACK.

18 posted on 07/23/2004 8:20:46 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: cardinal4
Another wedding..

If they would just stick to marring ONE WIFE, their life expectancies would go up!

19 posted on 07/23/2004 8:22:36 AM PDT by True Capitalist
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To: linear
"Amazing how many "wedding parties" seem to run into bad luck..."

The 9/11 Commission would call this "a serious lack of imagination".

20 posted on 07/23/2004 8:22:57 AM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II)
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To: bondjamesbond
If this van had run into a wall

or another Iraqi vehicle.

21 posted on 07/23/2004 8:25:00 AM PDT by EggsAckley (You can't be pro small business and pro trial lawyer at the same time! ** George W. Bush **)
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To: cripplecreek
The only reason this is in the news is because it offers "evidence" of evil soldiers killing civilians. If I'm not mistaken, quite a few of our soldiers have been killed in auto accidents in Iraq.

Exactly, people die in car accidents all the time all over the world and it doesn't get worldwide attentions. Although the press may not know it, car accidents occur even in the United States of America!

22 posted on 07/23/2004 8:27:39 AM PDT by True Capitalist
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To: dead
I want to find out who made that call and what their explanation is.

I propose the following ammendment to Murphy's Law: When speeding down a highway located in a war zone, all 70-ton armored vehicles have the right-of-way.

23 posted on 07/23/2004 8:28:23 AM PDT by Tallguy (If Clinton did a good job stopping the Millenium Bomber, I've got 2 Towers in NYC to sell you...)
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To: nuffsenuff
So someone trying to pass (presumably by going into the opposite direction lane) and getting into an accident is now somehow an indictment of our military presence in Iraq?

What on earth are you talking about? Where in this article is the indictment of our military? One witness gave an account that tried to put the blame on the tank, but apparently other witness disagree. Other than that, it’s an article about an accident in which nine people died.

Why is this in the news?

Because nine people died in an accident when they crashed into an American tank. That's not something that happens every day.

24 posted on 07/23/2004 8:30:26 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Tallguy

Anyone else wonder, what is it about these so called late night weddings that they seem to do? Or is it something else?


25 posted on 07/23/2004 8:31:01 AM PDT by Jivana108 (Dont mistake kindness for weakness...)
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To: F16Fighter
MEMO TO IRAQI FEDEHEEN BRIDES GETTING MARRIED:

WEAR BLACK.

The society page of the Iraqi Inquirer said the bridesmades carried beatiful posies that concealed claymores, while the ushers wore matching black face scarves and carried RPG-7's. The Bride & Groom caution their guests against discharging their AK's in the air, as this might draw more that rice in return...

26 posted on 07/23/2004 8:33:53 AM PDT by Tallguy (If Clinton did a good job stopping the Millenium Bomber, I've got 2 Towers in NYC to sell you...)
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To: True Capitalist

Our soldiers die all over the world all the time in various types of accidents. Ive lost a couple of friends to accidents on military bases.

Ive never checked it out but i have a feeling that the number of non hostile fire deaths in the military is fairly high.


27 posted on 07/23/2004 8:34:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry is unbalanced)
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To: dead
"..nine people were killed and 18 injured.."

According to my calculations, that makes a total of 27 accident victims. Were all these people in the minivan, or were some of those injured merely standing on the street nearby? No mention of any explosion, or whether it could have been muffled by the sound of the collision. Perhaps the detonator didn't work. And the presence of a child's dress doesn't necessarily mean there was a little girl present. We haven't heard the other side of this story, and probably never will.

28 posted on 07/23/2004 8:37:23 AM PDT by Designer (Sysiphus Sr. to Junior; "It was uphill, all the way, both ways!")
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To: nuffsenuff

everything that happens that is bad is an indictment of the nearest responsible Republican or US military.

It's news because it hurst the US effort in Iraq.

US military digging a well for a school of crippled Iraqis for example is not news.

If wild dogs in Baghdad attack people, then the headline is:
"Military fails to protect Iraqis from wild dogs"

If the military shoots the dogs in response:
"Military shoots defenseless dogs"

(replace 'dogs' with 'insurgents' and you get the REAL template of actual iraqi reporting)




29 posted on 07/23/2004 8:37:33 AM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: dead

the nyt had an sunday mag article last year on iraqi weddings.

vehy interesting! they marry their cousins, in order to secure the families from outside influences.


30 posted on 07/23/2004 8:37:50 AM PDT by ken21
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To: dead

The accident happened at night, the tank probably is not equipped with running lights, tail lights, headlights? etc.


31 posted on 07/23/2004 8:39:59 AM PDT by millefleur
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To: cripplecreek

You are right... there have been a lot of 'rollover' car accident deaths in Iraq.

And I'd guess a 40 mph headon with an M1A1 cant be pretty for the other vehicle.

This is a sad and unfortunate incident.


32 posted on 07/23/2004 8:40:45 AM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: dead

You're being sarcastic, right?


33 posted on 07/23/2004 8:44:35 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: cardinal4

Note to me:

If ever invited to a wedding in Iraq, just send a card and a gift certificate from Crate and Barrel.


34 posted on 07/23/2004 8:45:45 AM PDT by socal_parrot (Play that funky music white boy!)
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To: dead

35 posted on 07/23/2004 8:47:45 AM PDT by OSHA (Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger 10/28/45 - xx/xx/04 (Suicide pending documentation of depression.))
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To: Designer
According to my calculations, that makes a total of 27 accident victims.

That's one big freakin' van. A Ford Econoline seats 15 max.

36 posted on 07/23/2004 8:49:43 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: nuffsenuff

No.


37 posted on 07/23/2004 8:51:50 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: F16Fighter; Tallguy

38 posted on 07/23/2004 8:59:31 AM PDT by Sloth (We have to support RINOs like Specter; their states are too liberal to elect someone like Santorum.)
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To: cardinal4

Weddings are so dangerous in Iraq these days.

It is all Bush's fault, and he should fire Cheney and apologize! (sarcasm for those who don't know me!)


39 posted on 07/23/2004 9:05:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Inability to recognize the serious crimes done by the Bergular are symptons of Mad Troll Disease!)
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To: cripplecreek
Ive seen plenty of reporters mention that Iraqis drive like maniacs.

That's what you get when you put 7th century comprehension and thinking behind the wheel of a 20th century machine.

40 posted on 07/23/2004 9:10:28 AM PDT by Dad2Angels
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To: linear
Amazing how many "wedding parties" seem to run into bad luck...

I was wondering the same thing, myself. This is, what, four or five in the past few months?

Is 'wedding party' a euphemism for 'Al-Queda meeting'?

41 posted on 07/23/2004 9:24:56 AM PDT by wbill
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To: dead

Unbelievable spin... the van was passing another vehicle when it ran into a tank proceeding on its own side of the road, and then by the end of the story it's the American tank's fault.

Liberal incoherence, as usual.


42 posted on 07/23/2004 9:27:19 AM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these classified documents make me look fat?)
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To: dead
The M-1 Abrams tank is dangerous all the time. Its size, speed, firepower, and agility make it the biggest and baddest wherever it goes.
43 posted on 07/23/2004 9:30:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: dirtboy
"I wonder if the air bag in the M-1 Abrams deployed?"

I wonder if they even noticed that they'd ran over anything... :)

44 posted on 07/23/2004 9:32:03 AM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: dead

Got to hate that. You're passing an 18 wheel semi on a two-lane over the crest of a hill at 90 and swerving to avoid a line of chickens walking along the double yellow on the way to the torture house and suddenly slam into a heavy tank and the crew refuses to stop and get out and walk into the ambush.


45 posted on 07/23/2004 9:34:56 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: glorgau
One lesson I learned from driving a tank on the Autobahn - the tank always has the right-of-way.

Lots of days driving in LA and Chicago when I wished I was driving a tank...
46 posted on 07/23/2004 9:35:02 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: jriemer

If the accident had happened in Philadelphia, there would be 80 to 100 "injured victims" all claiming to have been in that van!


47 posted on 07/23/2004 9:41:00 AM PDT by blau993 (Labs for love; .357 for Security.)
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To: WOSG

Quite so. I remember passing by a tank military convoy in Eastern France during the mid-1980s. There was some big Franco-German military exercise planned (within NATO I think).

The tanks were occupying one side of the road, Leopard-1 and AMX-30s, and a British family in a Range-Rover crashed into the leading tank. It was terrible, the Range was piled into the front armor like a crushed Coke can.


48 posted on 07/23/2004 9:51:01 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: Sloth

rotflol


49 posted on 07/23/2004 9:51:45 AM PDT by Bobby777
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To: cardinal4

"another wedding"

That's what I was thinking.


50 posted on 07/23/2004 10:01:43 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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