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Kuby: Berger's 9/11 Paper Pilfer No Accident
News Max ^ | 7-20-04

Posted on 07/20/2004 7:57:29 AM PDT by hope

Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:21 a.m. EDT

Kuby: Berger's 9/11 Paper Pilfer No Accident

Noted civil rights attorney and regular defender of the Clinton administration Ron Kuby said Tuesday that it's hard to believe former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger took top secret terrorism documents from a 9/11 Commission reading room by accident.

"Nobody, nobody inadvertently picks up classified information and walks out with it. It isn't done," Kuby told his WABC Radio partner Curtis Sliwa.

Mr. Berger, who now serves as a key advisor to the Kerry-Edwards campaign on national security issues, told FBI probers that his own "sloppiness" caused him to begin stuffing his pockets and briefcase with the top secret papers.

But the perpetrator-friendly New York lawyer wasn't buying his excuses.

"You cannot do this accidentally," he told Sliwa. "You can do it arrogantly, being so used to your top security clearance that you figure the rules don't apply to you - and I've seen that in Republican and Democratic administrations alike. But you don't do it accidentally."

Kuby insisted that even if Berger had simply removed the notes he made while viewing the secret Clinton administration terror documents, it would still be a crime.

"If you're taking notes about classified information, those notes are now classified. They're placed in a secure area. You can have access to them only while being viewed by a security officer. Nothing gets removed."

"It's a crime to remove classified information or to deal with it in a manner that potentially compromises it," he said.

Kuby said he learned about the security procedures firsthand, when he was permitted to view classified information during his involvement in the trial of the first World Trade Center bombers.

"The rules are very strict," he said. "There's somebody monitoring you. The notes that you take on classified material themselves are deemed to be classified. You leave everything there."

"You're not permitted to remove anything from that room - period," he emphasized. "It's a crime to remove classified information or to deal with it in a manner that potentially compromises it."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: sandyberger
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1 posted on 07/20/2004 7:57:30 AM PDT by hope
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To: hope
Kuby, thought an unrepentent communist, has never been much of a Clinton apologist.

He's more of a "pox on both their houses" guy, like Hitchens or Buchanan.

2 posted on 07/20/2004 8:00:18 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: hope
Even Kommie Kuby knows the rules regarding classified material and proper procedures.

Maybe this will go somewhere.
3 posted on 07/20/2004 8:00:27 AM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ("proud to be a Reagan Republican")
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To: dead
thought an unrepentent communist

Should read “though an unrepentent communist”.

Typos are annoying, but typos that actually change the meaning are really annoying.

4 posted on 07/20/2004 8:02:11 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Registered

I don't know if you have done it. If so post here for me. If not, you need to make a picture of Berger with pieces of paper stuffed in all parts of his body and clothing.


5 posted on 07/20/2004 8:02:22 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: hope
"Nobody, nobody inadvertently picks up classified information and walks out with it. It isn't done," Kuby told his WABC Radio partner Curtis Sliwa.

That's absolutely laughable. Ask anyone in Security how often it happens.

6 posted on 07/20/2004 8:03:28 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Coop
That's absolutely laughable. Ask anyone in Security how often it happens.

Well, if it happens where you work, I hope it's reported. I imagine you know the drill.

7 posted on 07/20/2004 8:05:10 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: hope

you see it is not just the "theivery"( a childlike term) it is the destruction of truth that he has attempted. Like fabricating evidence in a trial... He should get decades behind bars. I am SO pissed about this!


8 posted on 07/20/2004 8:05:51 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Phantom Lord; New Perspective

courtesy of New Perspective

9 posted on 07/20/2004 8:08:00 AM PDT by petercooper (In the end, Democrats are just a bunch of jackasses.)
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To: petercooper

What a truly stomach turning group of people! What does Madeline have in her lap? Ugh!!


10 posted on 07/20/2004 8:16:40 AM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts (Keep your eye on the donut, not on the hole.)
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To: hope

Kuby is, literally, a Commie...I am stunned that he'd drop the hammer on a fellow Fellow Traveler. Bully for him!!


11 posted on 07/20/2004 8:16:57 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: hope

It's called, Hillary wants to be president in 2008.


12 posted on 07/20/2004 8:17:15 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: Inspectorette

It does, it is, and I do.


13 posted on 07/20/2004 8:17:29 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: petercooper

What a truly stomach turning group of people! What does Madeline have in her lap? Ugh!!


14 posted on 07/20/2004 8:17:43 AM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts (Keep your eye on the donut, not on the hole.)
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To: Coop

I have been wondering, if security was so strict,
why was he allowed to leave with the documents
in the first place?

That may be a stupid question, or a question that
has been asked and answered, but I haven't been
able to follow the threads.

Please, be kind...;o)


15 posted on 07/20/2004 8:21:56 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: hope
I wonder if the "9/11 widows" who were paraded on all the networks (the ones who were mad at Condoleeza Rice for "not apologizing" or somesuch) will be mad at "Sandy" for taking documents from the 9/11 Commission that they were counting on to find the Truth.

Or does their anger only point one way?

P.S. On an unrelated note, what kind of grown man uses the name "Sandy". Is he still going to be calling himself "Sandy" when he's 80 years old?

16 posted on 07/20/2004 8:23:39 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: dixiechick2000

Actually, I think that's a pretty GOOD question. Some employees saw him do it, so...?


17 posted on 07/20/2004 8:26:25 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: petercooper

Is that a REAL picture...where did it come from....why are they doingthat...if this is a REAL picture, it needs to be posted on every Fat Sandy Berger thread!


18 posted on 07/20/2004 8:27:00 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Probably Dim(demo, aiders, abetters) employees.


19 posted on 07/20/2004 8:28:16 AM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2


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20 posted on 07/20/2004 8:28:37 AM PDT by votelife (Calling abortion a women's issue is like calling war a men's issue!)
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