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Television network admits it lied about unauthorized biography (Sci Fi Channel-Shyamalan-Village)
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Posted on 07/17/2004 8:50:22 AM PDT by Jalapeno

Television network admits it lied about unauthorized biography

Saturday, July 17, 2004 Posted: 12:37 AM EDT (0437 GMT)

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Sci Fi Channel admitted that it lied last month in claiming it was at odds with filmmaker M. Night Shyamalan and was making an unauthorized biography about his "buried secret."

The hoax was part of a "guerilla marketing campaign" that went too far, network president Bonnie Hammer said Friday.

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KEYWORDS: medialies; scifichannel
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"This marketing strategy is not consistent with our policy at NBC,"

Yeah right. This is also out of th Moore playbook. People eat this stuff up.

1 posted on 07/17/2004 8:50:22 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: Jalapeno

Next thing you know, someone is going to say that the Blair Witch Project wasn't really made by three college students who disappeared in Maryland.


2 posted on 07/17/2004 8:55:55 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You can lead a liberal to the facts but you can't make him think.)
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To: Jalapeno

And this surprises who...?

They did the same thing with a faux documentary about the Blair Witch Project and backstory like 5 years ago.


3 posted on 07/17/2004 8:56:33 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Ignorance is king. Many would not prosper by its abdication.")
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To: Jalapeno

How is this different from other Hollyweird hijinks? Hey a rapper can make lyrics talking about abortion babies and get fired from his radio station (his CD coming out soon). Paris Hilton's sex tape,etc.


4 posted on 07/17/2004 8:59:11 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Jalapeno

I just got the Sci Fi channel after wanting it for a long time.

It was perfectly obvious that the promo was a spoof; I can't imagine anyone thinking otherwise.

But, hey, more pub for the movie.


5 posted on 07/17/2004 9:04:02 AM PDT by altura
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To: cyborg
You know, slightly unrelated, but there are people who absolutely can not believe that the audio portion of the Macy's Day Parade is taped...they will argue with you how 'they' would never do that. If you've been to Herald Square on that day, you will see that even the speaking portions by the actors are taped.
6 posted on 07/17/2004 9:07:36 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: Jalapeno

Sheesh! Now what am I going to do with all this popcorn and beer? Next thing ya know they'll be saying that wrestling is choreographed. Oh, the heartbreak of it all . . .(slaps head)


7 posted on 07/17/2004 9:09:21 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Jalapeno

I was a balloon handler at the parade once. The announcer dude directing the floats cussed a blue streak *LOL* Glad I wasn't there when Sonic the Hedgehog took out a lamppost.


8 posted on 07/17/2004 9:09:52 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Jalapeno

I saw previews for this movie. There is a Village surrounded by woods that no one can leave because of an agreement with mysterious creatures that live in the woods. Let me go out on a limb and conjecture that everyone is the Village turns out to be dead--they only think they're alive. Wouldn't that be totally unexpected? (wink, wink)


9 posted on 07/17/2004 9:19:56 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: cyborg; Eastbound
Seems to me Sonic smacked the lampost on CPW near Columbus Circle. I liked siting on the park wall near there, but not that year. Quite a tragedy that was.

And I assure you wrestling is real. No way "The Rock" could be faking so much raw emotion in those interviews....

10 posted on 07/17/2004 9:28:48 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: rbg81
That movie was called The Others, with Nicole Kidman.

At least, I hope that's not also the idea behind The Village. I've been looking forward to it, and if that turns out to be the secret, I won't know who to be madder at - Shyamalan for ripping off The Others, or you for spoiling it... ;-)

11 posted on 07/17/2004 9:30:25 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Jalapeno

hehehe I think the Rock is the real deal unlike that steaming pile of jabroni Effing Kerry ;-)


12 posted on 07/17/2004 9:31:03 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Dr. Frank fan

Truthfully, I have no idea what the twist will be (or if there even will be one). But I was ticked since I thought the Others has basically the same surprise ending as the Sixth Sense (which meant the "surprise" had lost its punch). I would hate to think he would have the gaul to use the same twist a 3rd time (but who knows). I was also disappointed with Signs (aliens who've mastered interstellar travel can't seem to figure out door knobs). Unless The Village gets really great reviews, I will likely wait till its out in DVD to watch it.


13 posted on 07/17/2004 9:37:39 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: altura

It was obvious it was a spoof when the Raven flew out of the room when they opened the door..

But I could easily see dense people (and there are a lot of them) believing it was a "real" documentary.


14 posted on 07/17/2004 9:38:13 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: rbg81

Oh, there's a twist.

I have a feeling this one will simply PO people rather than amaze them.


15 posted on 07/17/2004 9:39:24 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Gefreiter
My husband and I saw a program on the "Blair Witch Project" before we realized it was a movie, and we thought it was real.

As soon as the program was over we ran to the Internet to find out more on the back story only to find out it was a movie. I thought it was an extremely good marketing campaign.

16 posted on 07/17/2004 9:40:20 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: Jalapeno

You know this is really funny, last night I was commenting to my wife about how much this "documentary" is nothing but hype to build this Shyamalan guy up. Get his name out there and what do you know.. all of the sudden he releases a movie.


17 posted on 07/17/2004 9:41:32 AM PDT by eXe (The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war)
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To: Jalapeno

Well!

How disappointing.

If you can't believe TV, what can you believe any more?



18 posted on 07/17/2004 9:45:45 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: rbg81
It's Shyamalan so it's a pretty safe bet there will be some twist ending. :) However, I'd be really surprised (not in a good way) if he were to pull "they turn out to be dead!" out of his hat again. I have to admit though, based on the previews - and assuming there will be some twist - that's as good a guess as I can come up with. It actually does make some sense... the village turns out to be a historically preserved site, it's actually present day, and they turn out to be all ghosts who still haunt the place and don't understand who's "outside"... If 6th Sense and The Others hadn't already been made, this would have been a pretty good plot for a freaky horror movie.
19 posted on 07/17/2004 9:50:01 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank fan; rbg81

Shyamalan was behind "The Sixth Sense". He's already done the "dead-thinking-they're-alive" thing. I doubt he'd do it again.


20 posted on 07/17/2004 10:04:36 AM PDT by 4mycountry ("Change?" "Yes, I think I did!" - 'Monk' TV show)
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To: rbg81
I was also disappointed with Signs (aliens who've mastered interstellar travel can't seem to figure out door knobs).

ROTFLMBO. I never thought about that. :) My Dad was stumped about why aliens who die if they touch water would come to a planet that's 75% water.

21 posted on 07/17/2004 10:08:43 AM PDT by 4mycountry ("Change?" "Yes, I think I did!" - 'Monk' TV show)
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To: Strategerist

Not only the raven flying out of the room was fake... the woman pretending to be Night's assistant - she was in one of Seinfeld's most popular episodes "The Contest". She got Elaine in John-John Kennedy's aerobics class - right behind him. I recognized her right away and knew it was a hoax. It was a fun hoax, though.


22 posted on 07/19/2004 1:23:00 PM PDT by GOBUSHCHENEYGO
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To: 4mycountry
Shyamalan was behind "The Sixth Sense". He's already done the "dead-thinking-they're-alive" thing. I doubt he'd do it again.

I agree. He's a better filmmaker than that.

23 posted on 07/19/2004 1:30:09 PM PDT by Sloth (We have to support RINOs like Specter; their states are too liberal to elect someone like Santorum.)
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To: 4mycountry

...or why kill the alien with a baseball bat when there's hundreds of glasses of water surrounding it?


24 posted on 07/19/2004 1:37:23 PM PDT by Undertow ("I have found some kind of temporary sanity...")
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To: Jalapeno
No way "The Rock" could be faking so much raw emotion in those interviews...

Well, of course not. You might just as well claim that the Iron Sheik wasn't really a wealthy Saudi prince or that the Undertaker never returned from the dead. Some things just can't be faked.

25 posted on 07/19/2004 1:38:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jalapeno

How could people not know the Macy's Day Parade has it's audio taped. You can see the performers messing up on their lip-syncing many times. Plus, considering how much they would have to sing, you would think they would have no voice by the time they got to the end of the parade route.


26 posted on 07/19/2004 1:41:34 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Dr. Frank fan

Do you wanna know the secret in 'The Village'?


27 posted on 07/19/2004 1:45:25 PM PDT by TomServo ("I'm so upset that I'll binge on a Saltine.")
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To: rbg81
The Others was directed by Alejandro Amenábar, not M. Night Shyamalan (The Sixth Sense).
28 posted on 07/19/2004 1:47:09 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." 由onald Wilson Reagan)
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To: TomServo

Is it a "modern" secret? :o)


29 posted on 07/19/2004 1:48:42 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." 由onald Wilson Reagan)
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To: theophilusscribe

wink..wink..nod..nod..


30 posted on 07/19/2004 1:50:33 PM PDT by TomServo ("I'm so upset that I'll binge on a Saltine.")
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To: Jalapeno

Maybe now they'll fire Bonnie Hammer.

They should have fired that beeotch after she turned Galactica into that re-imagined sex adventure, or when she cancelled Farscape, or when she switched to the "all horror movies all the time".


31 posted on 07/19/2004 1:51:50 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: TomServo

Say no more! :o)


32 posted on 07/19/2004 1:53:59 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." 由onald Wilson Reagan)
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To: TomServo
Do you wanna know the secret in 'The Village'?

NO! Not until I see it :-)

33 posted on 07/19/2004 1:57:58 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Undertow
...or why kill the alien with a baseball bat when there's hundreds of glasses of water surrounding it?

IIRC, the alien ended up dying from having water thrown all over him.

Signs wasn't really about aliens- it was about a man's faith being tested by demons.

34 posted on 07/19/2004 1:59:39 PM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: theophilusscribe; TomServo

Damn you theophilusscribe, and damn you TomServo for calling me back to this thread ;-) I feel like I know too much already now!!


35 posted on 07/19/2004 2:00:02 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank fan
Well, with someone who's a 'Dr. Frank' fan - I couldn't resist. Besides that - I just saw some stills from the movie - and I just might be wrong....
36 posted on 07/19/2004 2:02:15 PM PDT by TomServo ("I'm so upset that I'll binge on a Saltine.")
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To: rbg81

Doubtful. The key, I think, is the red paint. The red paint keeps "the beasties" away. The twist, I'd guess, is when the audience figures out why red does the trick. I don't think it's just something arbitrary. I've heard that it could be a colonial village of people in modern times who don't realize they are in modern times or a colonial village of people on another planet as a zoo exhibit for aliens-- both, I think, straight-up stolen plots from Twilight Zone eps. We'll see soon enough, I guess.


37 posted on 07/19/2004 2:04:36 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Dr. Frank fan

:o)

38 posted on 07/19/2004 2:06:42 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." 由onald Wilson Reagan)
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To: TomServo

Stills? Where?


39 posted on 07/19/2004 2:07:27 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." 由onald Wilson Reagan)
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To: TomServo

The red marking on the doors are interesting.


40 posted on 07/19/2004 2:07:57 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: rbg81

Night didn't do the Others, don't blame the fact that it ripped off Sixth Sense on him.

I like Signs because the aliens were evil. It was all setup for the aliens to deliver some "important" message to the humans, then it turned out they were just hungry, beauty.


41 posted on 07/19/2004 2:10:19 PM PDT by discostu (Gravity is a harsh mistress)
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http://thevillage.movies.go.com/main.html


42 posted on 07/19/2004 2:13:34 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: altura
It was perfectly obvious that the promo was a spoof;

I can't agree more, not to mention it was so bad that I could only watch about 10 minutes of it. I kept trying to come back to the program because there was nothing on but could never stay more than a minute on it.

It was bad!

43 posted on 07/19/2004 2:15:56 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: rbg81; 4mycountry

Oh come on now, you're being a bit overly harsh on Signs :)

First, the doorknob complaint is bogus. The character responsible for Mel's wife's accident specifically says that he -locked him in-. Figuring out how to work a doorknob is not the same thing as figuring out how to get through a -locked- door. The human race has mastered lots of things, but that doesn't mean that -you- could get out of a locked room easily either (and you'll note, the same alien -did- eventually get itself out).

The water complaint is a more reasonable complaint. Now, I think claiming that "they die if they touch water" is a bit far. Water acts as an acid toward them, apparently, but it took quite a few broken glasses of water -and- being pummeled by a baseball bat to keep that one alien down for good. Secondly, why would they come to Earth? Well, let's put it this way. Let's assume that -we- go looking through the universe, and we find that 99.999% of the planets in the Universe are along the lines of Mars or Jupiter. Completely, totally useless. Then we find a planet where 25% of the surface is perfectly livable and in fact downright cozy most of the time. It may not be -ideal-, but it'd be a heck of a lot more usable than most of what they're finding, and most planets don't offer a slave race for the taking either. The question of "why did they come all this way for a planet with 75% water" relies on the assumption that they have lots of better alternatives. What would one base that assumption on?

Sorry, but if we're going to talk about willing suspension of disbelief, I found it a heck of a lot easier to maintain through Signs than I did through, say, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Yeaaaaah, that mine cart just jumped over a thirty-foot-wide chasm with three people inside it and landed -perfectly- on the other side of the tracks and kept going with barely a bump. THAT'S reasonable ;) And yet people loved that movie.

Qwinn


44 posted on 07/19/2004 2:21:03 PM PDT by Qwinn
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To: GraniteStateConservative
From what I am gathering Red is the color that attracts "them" and is prohibited. And another color must be worn when near the "line".
45 posted on 07/19/2004 2:23:01 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: Jalapeno
Macy's Day Parade

Too bad we don't celebrate Macy's Day here in California. I guess it hasn't caught on yet.

46 posted on 07/19/2004 2:26:05 PM PDT by webheart
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To: Lady Heron

I was unfortunate enough to catch a couple of minutes of it also. You're right.


47 posted on 07/19/2004 3:04:49 PM PDT by altura
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To: Jalapeno
The Rock may be fake, but Johnny Valentine was real.


48 posted on 07/19/2004 3:07:18 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (To expect the government to save you is to be a bystander in your own fate.)
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To: rbg81

"I was also disappointed with Signs..."

I thought Shyamalan did a very nice opening and gradual buildup before we found out the cornfield ruckus was about crop circles. The rest of the film was muddled, especially after building up to a supposed showdown with a massive army of aliens and then fizzling out with a confrontation involving just one.

Twist endings are gimmicky, good films don't need them (I wish he'd ditch that trick).


49 posted on 07/19/2004 3:18:49 PM PDT by avenir (Information overload = Pattern recognition)
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To: discostu
It was all setup for the aliens to deliver some "important" message to the humans, then it turned out they were just hungry, beauty.

Which would be a rip-off of "To Serve Man".

50 posted on 07/19/2004 3:25:05 PM PDT by TomServo ("I'm so upset that I'll binge on a Saltine.")
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