Large Brush Fire - Three Points / Highway 138 --west Lancaster area

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[BurbankKarl]

4:16PM - **CLOSURE CONT** CAMERON CNY CLOSED @ SR58/FRWY REMAINS OPEN
4:15PM - **CLOSURE**LOG #860/CAMERON RD JSO SR58/FRWY REMAINS OPEN AT THIS TIME/2 MLS JSO SR58, GRASS FIRE/APPROX 2 ACRES INVOLVED
4:13PM - **RAIN** LOG #1159/HEAVY RAIN IN BIG BEAR AREA/HEAVY RAIN @ ONYX SUMMIT & SR38
4:00PM - **RAIN** LOG #1011/I15 @ MOUNTAIN PASS AREA/HEAVY RAIN, LIMITED VISIBILITY APPROX 50 FEET/USE CAUTION/EXPECT DELAYS
2:49PM - **RAIN** LOG #1011/I15 @ HALLORAN SPRINGS AREA/LIGHTNING & RAIN IN THE AREA

[BurbankKarl]

Now a structure fire and brush extension in Leona valley

[BurbankKarl]

Now a Brush Fire on the 57 freeway....LA County Fire is out of units.




Incident: 3116 Type: Structure or Grass Fire Location: NB SR57 AT W COVINA BLVD Zoom Map: 600 3A Info as of: 7/14/2004 6:14:35 PM

ADDITIONAL DETAILS
6:09PM - PER 5-D6 PLS ADV CALTRANS TO RESP W/ SIGNS AND CONES
6:09PM - PER 5-D6 97 W/ FD ADVS NEG ON BOTH NB AND SB OF FWY BEING SHUT DOWN, ADVS NEED BOTH RT LNS ON NB 57 AT COVINA CLOSED FOR APPROX 3 HRS,ISSUE SIGALERT
6:08PM - FRWY CLOSURE DUE TO HEAVY SMOKE
6:01PM - DUPE INFO RP SAID LOOKS LIKE THE FIRE WILL JUMP THE FWY
5:59PM - FIRE REQ NB SIDE AT COVINA CLOSED F/FIRE RESPONSE -ASAP
5:56PM - LASO IS 1097 - REQ G 1184
5:48PM - 1039 LACOFD
5:47PM - BRUSH FIRE ON RS

[BurbankKarl]

bttt

Total of 28 Fires that are 50 acres or larger in Southern California.
This also includes the 1700 acre WFU fire in the Yosemite Natnl Park

[BurbankKarl]

PINE
LAC-142168
LAKE HUGHS
UNDER INV.
8848
47%
Strong erratic winds,low humidity,high temps, high spotting
potentials, record low fuel moistures,continuous fuel bed, portions
of fuel bed has not burned in 80-100 years, and steep terrain
continue to hamper containment efforts.
The fire made a significant run to the north-east across Three Points
Road. The fire remained active through the evening. Hwy 138 is closed
between Interstate 5 and 190th street. Mandatory evacuations are in
effect for the Portal Ridge Road area. Mandatory evacuation of app.
1000 persons in and around the fire area continues. Evacuation
centers have been set up at Happy Valley Club, Acton & Quartz Hill
High School. Voluntary evacuations are in effect in the Lake Hughes
and Lake Elizabeth areas. Warm Springs Road, Elizabeth Lake Road, and
Portal Ridge Road are closed.

[BurbankKarl]

> 122.8500 USFS AIR ATTACK
> 122.9250 USFS TANKER BASE OPS
> 123.9750 USFS AIR ATTACK
> 135.9750 LACFD AIR ATTACK
> 151.2200 CDF AIR OPS
> 153.8300 LACFD TAC 20
> 154.2650 OES WHITE 02
> 154.2800 OES WHITE 01
> 154.2950 OES WHITE 03
> 154.3400 LACFD TAC 18
> 154.4000 LACFD TAC 19
> 158.9700 LACFD TAC 24
> 164.9125 USFS SOUTH ZONE OPS
> 164.9375 ANF ADMIN NET
> 168.0500 USFS TAC 01
> 168.2000 USFS TAC 02
> 168.6000 USFS TAC 03
> 168.6250 USFS AIR GUARD
> 168.6500 USFS FLIGHT FOLLOWING
> 169.1250 USFS TRAVEL NET
> 169.2000 USFS AIR TAC 03
> 170.0000 USFS AIR TAC 04
> 170.5500 LPF FOREST NET
> 171.5500 LPF ADMIN NET
> 172.3750 ANF FOREST NET
> 470.4875 LACFD BLUE 12 TRO
> 470.5125 LACFD BLUE 04 COMMAND
> 470.5375 LACFD BLUE 08 DISPATCH
> 470.5875 LACFD BLUE 11 COMMAND
> 470.6625 LACFD BLUE 05 CREW NET
> 932.6125 ANF ADMIN NET (MICROWAVE)
> 932.6625 ANF FOREST NET (MICROWAVE)*

[lainie]

KNBC reported breaking news: the Pine fire is 10,000 acres plus now; as it crosses that threshold 110 homes are threatened and 1,000+ people evacuated. The FF are losing more ground tonight.

[BurbankKarl]

The fire jumped some canyon east last night....it is heading toward Lake Hughes - Elizabeth Lake

[BurbankKarl]

ncident Status Summary (ICS-209)
1: Date
07/16/2004 2: Time
0600 3: Initial | Update | Final
| XX | 4: Incident Number
CA-LAC-04142168 5: Incident Name
PINE
6: Incident Kind
Wildland Fire 7: Start Date Time
07/12/2004 1250 8: Cause
Under Investigation 9: Incident Commander
UNIFIED - Hokanson-Gelobter 10: IMT Type
1 11: State-Unit
CA-LAC
12: County
LOS ANGELES 13: Latitude and Longitude
Lat: 34° 44´ 59"
Long: 118° 38´ 18" 14: Short Location Description (in reference to nearest town):
PINE CYN/HWY138 - LAKE HUGHES
Current Situation
15: Size/Area
Involved
14,047 ACRES 16: % Contained or
MMA
36 Percent 17: Expected Containment
Date:
Time: 18: Line to Build
17.9
Miles 19: Costs
to Date
$4,000,000 20: Declared Controlled
Date:
Time:
21: Injuries this
Reporting Period: 22: Injuries
to Date: 23: Fatalities 24: Structure Information
0 3 1 Type of Structure # Threatened # Damaged # Destroyed
25: Threat to Human Life/Safety:
Evacuation(s) in progress ----
No evacuation(s) imminent --
Potential future threat

---

No likely threat

---

Residence 120 3
Commercial Property 4
Outbuilding/Other 100 5
26: Communities/Critical Infrastructure Threatened (in 12, 24, 48 and 72 hour time frames):
12 hours: Happy Valley, Pine Grove Ranch, Three Points, and the Hidden Valley Hunting Club. Communications tower on Leibre Ridge, Tweedy Lake Club, Sawmill Mtn.Deer Lodge and Timberline Meadows.
24 hours:
48 hours:
72 hours:
27: Critical Resource Needs (kind & amount, in priority order):
1. Aircraft - 7-Air Tankers, 3 - type 1 Helicopters
2. 4 - Type 3 Engine Strike Teams
3.
28: Major problems and concerns (control problems, social/political/economic concerns or impacts, etc.) Relate critical resources needs identified above to the Incident Action Plan.
Strong erratic winds,low humidity,high temps, high spotting potentials, record low fuel moistures,continuous fuel bed, portions of fuel bed has not burned in 80-100 years, and steep terrain continue to hamper containment efforts. road closures and evacuations are in effect. Additional evacuations are continuing.
29: Resources threatened (kind(s) and value/significance):
Watershed, agricultural, and cultural resources. Habitat for the Spotted Owl, Willow Flycatcher, and the California Condor.
30: Current Weather Conditions
Wind Speed: 5-15g25 mph Temperature: 68-73
Wind Direction: SW/W Relative Humidity: 15% 31: Resource benefits/objectives (for prescribed/wildland fire use only):
32: Fuels/Materials Involved: 4 Chaparral (6 Feet)
Ranges from grass medium/ heavy brush and timber
33: Today's observed fire behavior (leave blank for non-fire events):
Increased winds and higher temperature contributed signficantly to extreme fire behavior.
34: Significant events today (closures, evacuations, significant progress made, etc.):
The fire made significant runs to the north-east. The fire remained active through the shift. Hwy 138 is closed between Interstate 5 and 140th street. Mandatory evacuations are in effect for the Portal Ridge Road area. Mandatory evacuation over 1000 people in and around the fire area continues. Evacuation centers have been set up at Happy Valley Club, Acton & Quartz Hill High School. New evacuations evacuations are in effect in the Lake Hughes and Lake Elizabeth areas. Warm Springs Road, Elizabeth Lake Road, and Portal Ridge Road are closed.
Outlook
35: Estimated Control
Date and Time:
36: Projected Final Size:
37: Estimated Final Cost:
38: Tomorrow's Forecasted Weather
Wind Speed: 5-15g25 mph Temperature: 85-90
Wind Direction: SW/W Relative Humidity: 5-10%
39: Actions planned for next operational period:
Provide structure protection as needed. Continue to construct and burn out containment lines. Mop-up on north and west flanks will continue. Continue to keep the fire south of Hwy 138, north of the Leibre fuel break, east of the Old Ridge and west of Forest Road #7N16.
40: Projected incident movement/spread during next operational period:
Under the influence of the current and expected weather & fire behavior, containment lines continue to be threatened. With the current resources, the west flanks have a medium potential of movement. Growth potential is extreme on the southeast flank and in 80-100 year old fuel bed.
41: For fire incidents, describe resistance to control in terms of:
1. Growth Potential - Extreme
2. Difficulty of Terrain - High
42: How likely is it that containment/control targets will be met, given the current resources and suppression/control strategy?
Given the current weather and resources, the spread potential is high.
43: Projected demobilization start date: 07/20/2004 1800
44: Remarks:
The current Unified Command structure consists of LAC/USFS (Hokason /Gelobter) involving SRA and USFS land. USFS Incident number is CA-ANF-2407.
45: Committed Resources (Supplemental Committed Resources follow the first block)
Agency CRW1 CRW2 HEL1 HEL2 HEL3 ENGS DOZR WTDR OVHD Camp
Crews Total
Personnel
SR ST SR ST SR SR SR SR ST SR ST SR SR
NPS 1 2 2
USFS 10 5 3 3 1 7 2 2 70 560
LGR 1 1 16 4 21 247
ST 5 8 4 2 54 2 405
CNTY 6 1 1 13 6 3 4 98 484
OTHR
BLM 1 2 4
PRI 12 12
OES 1 4 2 152
Total 10 12 5 0 4 5 2 14 41 14 2 20 247 2 1,866
Total personnel by agency are listed in the first section of committed resources.
Agency HELTK FIXW TRKCO RESMD LGTAIR
SR SR SR SR
NPS
USFS 5
LGR
ST 2
CNTY
OTHR
BLM
PRI
OES
Total 0 7 0 0 0
46: Cooperating and Assisting Agencies Not Listed Above:
LAFD, LASD,Kern Co.FD,.LA. Co Animal Control, Red Cross, CHP, CDF
Approval Information
47: Prepared by:
Ron Larriva 48: Approved by:
Hokanson/Gelobter 49: Sent to:South Ops by: Ron Larriva
Date: 07/16/2004 Time: 0600

[lainie]

We heard FF on scanner say, 'Hey we told 'em. That's all we can do. This fire is coming through this canyon. Let's get out of here.' -- some folks were resisting leaving.

[lainie]

From the A.V. Press staff story:

Sheriff's investigators say the fire likely was started by an arsonist on the roadside of Pine Canyon Road near the Pacific Crest Trail on Monday afternoon. Investigators did not say what evidence led them to believe the fire was intentionally set.

Around 1,500 firefighters battled the blaze, which had expanded to approximately 10,290 acres Thursday night. The fire was about 40% contained.

Several threatened homes were saved by fire crews charged with structural protection. Los Angeles County Fire Department Inspector John Mancha, acting captain, confirmed two homes, five outbuildings and one motor home were lost to the blaze.

Approximately 500 people have evacuated their homes and businesses since Monday, with fire officials strongly urging residents in Lake Elizabeth and Lake Hughes to voluntarily evacuate.

"What we don't want is for the fire to push southeast up into the canyons, towards Lake Hughes," said Stanton Florea, an officer with the Angeles National Forest. "If the winds continue to push it into the lower elevations, we can get a handle on it."

It seems that's exactly what has happened.

[lainie]

In the LAT story,

"10,000+" became "14,000" acres
"brush that hasn't burned for 80 years" became "brush that hasn't burned in almost 100 years"
"40% containment" became "The fire is only 37% contained, down significantly from just two days ago when it was nearly half contained."
"we strongly advise" became "Residents in the communities of Lake Hughes, Elizabeth Lake and Green Valley fled the area"

just noticing differences as you read what is basically the same story over & over, with little changes here & there.

[BurbankKarl]

bttt

A wall of flame threatens a ranch house Thursday in the Tweedy Lake area of the Antelope Valley. Firefighers managed to save the structure. Fires threatened residences in the rural Three Points, Tweedy Lake and Lake Hughes areas.

A helicopter drops fire retardant on a Lake Hughes house that was threatened by flames on Thursday. The house was saved. Despite this success, the fate of three tiny communities on the northern edge of the Angeles National Forest was far from assured. Fires are also burning in Riverside and San Diego counties.

Aircraft flying over the Pine Fire before making a fire retardant drop on the rolling hills of Tweedy Lake.

Tammy Lavelle Adams with daughters Meganrose, 8, and Allison, 10, watch as a fire moves toward their Lake Hughes community on Thursday. The family had already completed preparations for a possible evacuation.

[lainie]

It's gotta be so scary. "We saw erratic, unbelievable fire activity last night," county fire Capt. Dennis Cross said in a broadcast report. Tweedy Lake is the focus this morning.. Three Points is nine miles from Lake Hughes. I don't know how many miles exist between L.H. and the fire's current location.

What does 'WFU' stand for, specifically? They believe the Yosemite fire was sparked by lightning.

[BurbankKarl]

Wildland Fire Use: The management of naturally ignited wildland fires to accomplish specific prestated resource management objectives in predefined geographic areas outlined in Fire Management Plans.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/angeles/incident/pine/terminology.html

[lainie]

New fire at Waterman Cyn, near the SR-18 (deja vu all over again)

[BurbankKarl]

you know, they never caught that arsonist, or the Bouquet Cyn arsonist.