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Houston Chronicle ^ | July 3, 2004 | RACHEL GRAVES

Posted on 07/04/2004 8:14:56 AM PDT by Max Combined

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To: *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; A.J.Armitage; abner; adam_az; AdmSmith; Alas Babylon!; blam; NukeMan; ...
"A handful of historians and anthropologists have studied the tens of thousands of negros living in remote enclaves of Mexico -- no one knows exactly how many -- in villages founded as early as the 1500s by fugitive slaves."

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21 posted on 07/04/2004 12:32:15 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Max Combined; JudyB1938; FairOpinion
Correction to post nunber 20.

The Oldest Skeleton in the Americas is Arlington Springs Woman not, Spirit Cave Woman

22 posted on 07/04/2004 12:34:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Spirit Cave Man is the oldest mummy ever found in the Americas
23 posted on 07/04/2004 12:40:37 PM PDT by blam
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To: Max Combined

As long as they APPLY for immigration LEGALLY, and OBEY ALL the LAWS, and don't expect SPECIAL TREATMENT, and DON'T COMMIT CRIMES, AND LEARN ENGLISH, and GET JOBS, and PAY THEIR TAXES (yeah, I know I'm living in a dream world), what's the big deal?


24 posted on 07/04/2004 4:00:13 PM PDT by solitas (WP,WW)
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To: solitas

How about they do all that in their own country?

There is not an infinite amount of land, water, and living space in this country or haven't you noticed?


25 posted on 07/04/2004 8:23:15 PM PDT by Max Combined
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To: Max Combined

Do you have something against legal immigrants? Are you a member of an indigenous tribe in the United States?


26 posted on 07/04/2004 8:33:55 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: cyborg

And how would the people in this article become legal immigrants?


27 posted on 07/04/2004 8:42:07 PM PDT by Max Combined
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To: Max Combined

By going through the same process as everyone else. That's how.


28 posted on 07/04/2004 8:43:09 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Mudcat; judywillow
Only in the United States did slaves live well enough to reproduce themselves and become self sustaining.

You know, this isn't really true either! Where are you acquiring your data?

I ran across THIS PIECE while actually researching something else. Lends some credence to this particular claim of Judywillow's; FYI:

The evidence from slave populations elsewhere in history perhaps deserves mention here. In general this favours the argument that slave populations do not normally reproduce themselves. In the United States the reverse was true (there slave numbers increased after importation was banned in 1808), but that was a special case. For example, Brazil and the Caribbean imported more African slaves than North America, yet the slave body in both areas experienced a natural decline in numbers - up to 5% per annum depending on time and place. Why the United States was different is not clear, but a plausible suggestion is that the working and environmental conditions affecting the lives of slaves were more favourable there than elsewhere. It is unlikely that comparable conditions were to be found in the Roman Empire, and so we would expect the trend there to resemble that which prevailed later outside the U.S.A.

FGS

29 posted on 07/04/2004 8:45:30 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Much ado about nothing... it's not as if slave families were the most intact and frequently slave babies were sold off anyway.


30 posted on 07/04/2004 8:47:39 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Max Combined

Well, you can't have it both ways...

In major league baseball, they've been talking about the shrinking number of blacks in the sport; black Hispanics (Sammy Sosa, etc.) are not considered "black".

Spinning just to invent a story...


31 posted on 07/04/2004 8:51:36 PM PDT by Tuco Ramirez (Ideas have consequences.)
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Much ado about nothing... it's not as if slave families were the most intact and frequently slave babies were sold off anyway.

I miss your point.

FGS

32 posted on 07/04/2004 9:51:11 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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It doesn't matter where slavery was, it was all bad.


33 posted on 07/04/2004 9:51:53 PM PDT by cyborg
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It doesn't matter where slavery was, it was all bad.

True enough; it's not one of the brighter spots in human existence, but it's a fact of life nonetheless, even today.

FGS

34 posted on 07/04/2004 10:18:11 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

And since it exists today still, why focusing on slavery that occured two three four hundred years ago is mystifying to me. I understand the man's motivation, but I'm sure ancestors are the least of these people's problems.


35 posted on 07/04/2004 10:23:17 PM PDT by cyborg
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Do you mean the 'hump your a$$ across the river to live on free welfare' process??????????????

Because that's the same process the vast majority of "immigrants" are using to get here these days.

36 posted on 07/04/2004 11:27:52 PM PDT by m18436572
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To: Max Combined; cyborg

More leftist racist crap, creating a problem where there is none:

1-"Although Mexico claims that its "raceless" society means there is no racism and that blacks are better off than in the United States, Jemmott and others in his group say Mexico is committing the worst kind of racism: ignoring the very existence of blacks. "

The worst kind of racism is not noticing race?
Good golly, miss molly!!


37 posted on 07/05/2004 12:26:17 AM PDT by XBob (Free-traitors steal our jobs for their profit.)
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To: Max Combined

Hey - whatever they look like and wherever they come from are of no importance, and as long as they become functioning, contributing, responsible, self-sustaining members of society then _I_ have no probs with them.

IF they're planning on coming over here to make a quick buck, ignore the rules and laws, demand citizens' rights, and take every available opportunity to start their suck at the public teat then - hey - I'm all for shooting 'em first-step-over-the-border.

Like all others, they deserve a chance to prove themselves before being neutralized and disposed-of. If they initially try to enter illegally then they abrogate all their basic human rights.


38 posted on 07/05/2004 6:37:43 AM PDT by solitas (WP,WW)
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The Mexican census does not acknowledge them, treating all Mexicans as one race.

What a strange idea. Maybe we can send Jesse and Al down there to enlighten them.

39 posted on 07/05/2004 6:45:25 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: XBob

Yeah I don't get it either.


40 posted on 07/05/2004 8:38:17 AM PDT by cyborg
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