End of discussion.
Just damn.
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Posted on 06/26/2004 10:10:09 AM PDT by Liz
The U.S. Senate has passed the controversial "hate crimes" bill that could now lead to the criminalization of Christian beliefs and practices.
That means the next step for this legislation is the House, and it’s imperative that Christians contact their representatives urging them not to support such legislation.
The House defense authorization bill is H.R. 4200. Make sure your representative knows that you do not support any and all hate crimes amendment to H.R. 4200.
The outrageous passage of this legislation -- called the "Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act" and passed as an amendment to a defense bill -- requires every one of us across the nation to take immediate action.
BACKSTORY The Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act sponsored by Uncle Teddy Kennedy was defeated in May 2002. But they're back and they've hurdled the first course by hiding the bill in the Senate's defense appropriation bill
LLEEA criminalizes the Orwellian concept of "hate" crimes: The bill would penalize some American citizens thoughts. Perhaps newspaper columnists would not be permitted to write on certain subjects.
Perhaps politicians would not be permitted to defend their party's principles.
(1) According to constitutional experts, the measure - establishes a dangerous constitutional precedent - allowing for two trials against a person accused of a crime, say, against homosexuals (among others). Possible scenario: A mother of a teenage boy molested by notorious homosexual priest Fr. Paul Shanley might rush up to him in a courtroom, punch him in the face, and say, "You are a no-good homosexual." This is potentially a hate crime. If this woman is charged in a state court with a Hate Crime and is acquitted, she can be tried again, a second time, in a Federal Court. Or, even if she is found guilty in a state court and fined $1,000.00, the federal prosecutors could feel this is inadequate and charge the lady with a crime under Federal law and she would face a second trial.
(2) The bill is Orwellian because it penalizes politically incorrect thoughts and feelings which the law labels as "hate". Big Brother is watching the beliefs you express, the books you read, the web sites you visit, the people you know, and the organizations to which you belong. It's all potential evidence of "hate".
(3) The federal government would get to define what "hate" is. The bill would expand the scope of the federal government to investigate and prosecute anyone who targets racial and religious minorities, gays, the disabled and other groups because of hate.
(4) Heeding the Bible would constitute a hate crime under this law. Opposition to abortion could be discerned as hate.Support for traditional marriage could be discerned as
hate. (5) This bill is an unwarranted expansion of Federal authority to enforce illegitimate laws implementing the flawed Orwellian concept of "hate" crimes.
(6) The bill attempts to codify Sexual Orientation but does not refer merely to homosexuality. Which bizarre fetishes will be included over time? Will these kind of laws make public expression of such orientation permissible or even legal by making former state laws and even prosecutions invalid as acts of hate by the state?
The hate crimes bill will provide cover for all forms of sexual orientation under the phony liberal rubric of tolerance and compassion: homosexuality, bestiality (will PETA support animals being used for sexual pleasure?), polygamy, pedophilia, S&M (will slavery become legal?), exhibitionists, incest, etc.
Call Congress' switchboard at 202-224-3121 to and ask your Congressman to oppose the bill. Do it as soon as possible.
That means the next step for this legislation is the House, and it’s imperative that Christians contact their representatives urging them not to support such legislation.
The House defense authorization bill is H.R. 4200. Make sure your representative knows that you do not support any hate crimes amendment to H.R. 4200.
TWO VITAL ACTION PROJECTS ARE NECESSARY:
(1)Contact your Representative: http://www.reclaimamerica.org/contactCongress.asp?lk=house OR Call the Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121
(2) Contact House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, urging him not to allow this legislation to come to a vote. This legislation cannot move without his permission. To reach his office: 202-225-5951 (phone) 202-225-5241 (fax) You can e-mail DeLay at: http://www.majorityleader.gov/CONTACT.ASP?a=form
OPPOSE HR 4200. Two actions needed.
(1) Call your Congressman at 202-224-3121
(2) Contact House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, urging him not to allow this legislation to come to a vote. The legislation cannot move without his permission.
DeLay's office: 202-225-5951 (phone)
DeLay's office: 202-225-5241 (fax)
Delay's EMAIL form: http://www.majorityleader.gov/CONTACT.ASP?a=form
According to constitutional experts, HR 4200---Hate Crimes Bill--establishes a dangerous constitutional precedent - allowing for two trials against a person accused of a crime, say, against homosexuals (among others).
Possible scenario: A mother of a teenage boy molested by notorious homosexual priest Fr. Paul Shanley might rush up to him in a courtroom, punch him in the face, and say, "You are a no-good homosexual." This is potentially a hate crime. If this woman is charged in a state court with a Hate Crime and is acquitted, she can be tried again, a second time, in a Federal Court. Or, even if she is found guilty in a state court and fined $1,000.00, the federal
prosecutors could feel this is inadequate and charge the lady with a crime under Federal law and she would face a second trial.
The bill is Orwellian because it penalizes politically incorrect thoughts and feelings which the law labels as "hate". Big Brother is watching the beliefs you express, the books you read, the web sites you visit, the people you know, and the organizations to which you belong. It's all potential evidence of "hate".
The bill would expand the scope of the federal government to investigate and prosecute anyone who targets racial and religious minorities, gays, the disabled and other
groups because of hate.
Heeding the Bible would constitute a hate crime under this law. Opposition to abortion could be discerned as hate. Support for traditional marriage could be discerned as
hate.
The federal government would get to define what "hate" is and is an unwarranted expansion of Federal authority to enforce illegitimate laws implementing the flawed Orwellian concept of "hate" crimes.
The bill attempts to codify Sexual Orientation but does not refer merely to homosexuality. Which bizarre fetishes will be included over time? Will these kind of laws make public expression of such orientation permissible or even legal by making former state laws and even prosecutions invalid as acts of hate by the state?
The bill will provide cover for all forms of sexual orientation under the phony liberal rubric of tolerance and compassion: homosexuality, bestiality (will PETA support animals being used for sexual pleasure?), polygamy, pedophilia, S&M (will slavery become legal?), exhibitionists, incest, etc.
The Hate Crimes Bill--labeled the Local Law Enforcement Enhancement criminalizes the Orwellian concept of "hate" crimes: The bill could penalize pro-lifers, and pro-family activists. Perhaps newspaper columnists would not be permitted to write on certain subjects. Perhaps ooliticians would not be permitted to defend their party's principles.
OPPOSE HR 4200. Call your Congressman at 202-224-3121 and Mr DeLay at 202-225-5951.
Yeah, sure they know what the law is.......but for liberals it's more important to silence those pesky Christians who espouse American values.
I have written my Senators. It's not that they insult me intellectually. It's that they are insulting me. In fact they are disgusting.
Outdated. No longer exists. Look at the Mccain-Feingold campaign law for example.
Bump.
To derail the bill, you need to contact the House of Representatives. You need to take two separate actions.
(1) Call your Congressman at 202-224-3121.
TELL YOUR CONGRESSMAN THAT YOU OPPOSE HR 4200, the Hate Crimes bill.
(2) Contact House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, urging him not to allow this legislation to come to a vote. The legislation cannot move out for a vote without his permission.
DeLay's office: 202-225-5951 (phone)
DeLay's office: 202-225-5241 (fax)
Delay's EMAIL form: http://www.majorityleader.gov/CONTACT.ASP?a=form
Nevertheless, it's good they know you are alert to what they are doing up there in your name. Now, forget about the Senate. They've already passed the bill. Here's what we need to do now.
To derail the bill, you need to contact the House of Representatives. You need to take two separate actions.
(1) Call your Congressman at 202-224-3121.
TELL YOUR CONGRESSMAN THAT YOU OPPOSE HR 4200, the Hate Crimes bill.
(2) Contact House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, urging him not to allow this legislation to come to a vote. The legislation cannot move out for a vote without his permission.
DeLay's office: 202-225-5951 (phone)
DeLay's office: 202-225-5241 (fax)
Delay's EMAIL form: http://www.majorityleader.gov/CONTACT.ASP?a=form
Please ping your lists to this important thread.
Just this week, the defense bill was amended to include the "hate Crimes" bill passed in the Senate on a vote of 97-0.
That means the next step for this legislation is the House, and it’s imperative that Christians contact their representatives urging them not to support such legislation.
The House defense authorization bill is H.R. 4200. Make sure your representative knows that you do not support hate crimes amendment to H.R. 4200.
TWO VITAL ACTIONS ARE NECESSARY:
(1) Contact your Representative at the Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121
(2) Contact House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, urging him not to allow this legislation to come to a vote. This legislation cannot move without his permission.
To reach DeLay's office:
202-225-5951 (phone)
202-225-5241 (fax)
You can e-mail DeLay at: http://www.majorityleader.gov/CONTACT.ASP?a=form
Please vote no on HR 4200, the Hate crimes amendment.
Of course no one is in favor of hate crimes, but as written, this bill will make it a crime to read or believe portion of the Bible (regarding homosexuality). The Constitution clearly states:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
To pass this bill, therefore, is a violation of the First Amendment and in violation of one's oath.
Furthermore, it is very deceitful to attempt to sneak through amendments of this sort on a defense appropriations bill. Just so you know, as a voter I do pay attention to such actions and take it into account when voting.
I hope and pray that you believe in the US Constitution.
Regards
It's very important to contact DeLay to stop the bill in its tracks. Do this now:
Contact House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, urging him not to allow this legislation to come to a vote. The legislation cannot move out for a vote without his permission.
DeLay's office: 202-225-5951 (phone)
DeLay's office: 202-225-5241 (fax)
Delay's EMAIL form: http://www.majorityleader.gov/CONTACT.ASP?a=form
America is going to learn the hard way that the United Nations works against it's interest.
Our politicians are nothing but fools.
Look at most of the laws passed lately, that are unconstitutional.
Most of them are done by reports that the delegations of the United Nations make up.
These reports become laws in America.
Congress is so easily lead by these reports that they base their opinions on to vote by.
Most of them go along with them this international world government.
Just look at the rulings of the Supreme Courts. Some of them say we should go by international law.
And Congress members changing our tax laws. Because the WTO says we have to.
THe WTO meets in secret and we don't know who sits on the board, but yet they are making all our trade laws.
Like I said, their Fools.
End of discussion.
Just damn.
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Liz, where is the text of this legislation. In checking the Bill in THOMAS, I'm not finding the text that relates to the actions that you are referring to.
As far as I can see, HR 4200 relates primarily to military matters.
It took a while to find the text of the amendment, but this scenario would seem to be correct.
However, my question would be, in what way does this mother's behavior constitute a "Christian belief or practice" (which is what you are claiming is threatened by this bill)?
It was included in Amendment 3183, passed by the Senate on June 15:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_108_2.htm
Please be aware that this is from S.2400 not 4200
Ping for follow-up action.
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