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BUYER MUST FINGERPRINT SELLER, SAYS PROPOSED CALIFORNIA BILL, BUT WHAT ABOUT EBAY?
Antiques and The Arts.com ^ | David Smith

Posted on 06/22/2004 8:57:52 PM PDT by dixie sass

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To: dixie sass

Crack whores for legislators bump...


21 posted on 06/22/2004 11:42:28 PM PDT by Axenolith
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To: dixie sass

Again, the "idiots-who-want-to-save-the-world" will just screw up things. Don't these fools know this will just create an underground trade, a black market?


22 posted on 06/22/2004 11:48:30 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: dixie sass
Insane!
But it is in California.
Everything seems to start in California and then works it's way east.
I am going to put out my foot and trip it when it passes my area.
23 posted on 06/22/2004 11:51:42 PM PDT by Embedded Freeper
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To: dixie sass

california's ecconomy continues to tank.

This is a way of tracking when people sell for cash and avoid the oppressive taxation system.

Remember in real terms, 50 cents of every dollar the ordinary person makes in CF is gone to taxation in one form or anther.

This is not anticrime, this is government taxation tracking.


24 posted on 06/23/2004 1:50:41 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: abner
Why do they keep electing these idiots?

Because the choice is generally between leftist Democrat A and leftist Democrat B.

In non-partisan elections the Republicans are generally MIA.

In one local Republican Club it has been infultrated by leftists who pushed and got
the Republican party to sit out the whole boyscout issue.

It will only change when the national Democrat party is so weakened that they start pulling their resources inward.
25 posted on 06/23/2004 1:55:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: dixie sass
Who are these jerks? Can they not read?


Art. 1, Sec. 10, Cl. 1
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.


The ability to contract is the basis of commerce and capitalism, as well as liberty itself. And you don't need the States permission to have one.
26 posted on 06/23/2004 2:02:46 AM PDT by djf
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To: dixie sass
This will also affect comic book, baseball card, and other memorabilia shows held in California. There are some very sizable conventions held there (that draw upwards of 60,000-100,000 people).

What dealer is going to throw away cash at one of these events buying any high dollar merchandise presented to him in the dealers' room by anyone who does not already have a booth there? Buy it and sit on it for 30 days? Most dealers look to turn around the good merchandise at the same show. And who wants to walk around with black ink on their fingers? What dealer will let a customer with black ink on his fingers handle merchandise?

At these events, there are also a lot of people from out of state and other countries that attend. They could also present merchandise to sell. It won't just be Californians making such sales.

It is possible to engrave personal electronics or to include serial numbers in such items. Artwork is a unique item and can be documented. Collectibles are mass produced and attempts to "tag" them don't work.

27 posted on 06/23/2004 3:10:13 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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Aha! Regulations that spawn black markets are so helpful.
28 posted on 06/23/2004 4:10:39 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Keep your kids safe; keep W in the White House.)
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To: dixie sass
What next?????


29 posted on 06/23/2004 5:24:07 AM PDT by Freebird Forever (Exterminate islam)
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To: agitator

You send him to me! No if's, and's or but's - okay? Please.


30 posted on 06/23/2004 8:09:24 AM PDT by dixie sass ( Claws are sharp and ready for use!)
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To: flying Elvis; dixie sass; abner

I'm with my husband at the national E-bay convention in New Orleans, believe it or not. I haven't been to any of the sessions that might deal with the law, and so I don't know if anyone here is talking about this.

My husband would know better than I how the Pawnbrokers fought the bill, but the way I remember it was that they united and lobbied that the customers were legal buyers and had no reason to submit to fingerprinting - as well as convincing the lawmakers that their income would be improved if the pawnbrokers weren't harmed. (I hate the implications of that sort of lobbying, but understand that campaigns must go on....)

Ebay is an unbelievably diverse bunch of buyers and sellers. But, I can imagine them uniting to convince California that if their income goes down, the tax incomes for the State would go down - not to mention the problem of all the other resalers and those they support going on the unemployment lines.


31 posted on 06/24/2004 10:14:51 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: dixie sass

My friend had some things stolen from her garage this weekend. She called around to the pawnshops and they told her that it's not like she sees in the movies. Here in San Diego apparently the sellers must be fingerprinted and show ID. Every night the receipts are faxed to the police Dept.


32 posted on 06/24/2004 10:16:22 PM PDT by Hildy ( If you don't stand up for what's RIGHT, you'll settle for what's LEFT.)
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