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Amnesia - New York Times 1998: Bin Laden and Iraq Made a Deal; 2004: No Al Qaeda Iraq Connection
New York Times | November 5, 1998 | BENJAMIN WEISE

Posted on 06/18/2004 9:32:25 AM PDT by tallhappy

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That issue also included excerpts from the indictment itself. The indictment is available in pdf format at www.fas.org
1 posted on 06/18/2004 9:32:28 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
NICE JOB, TALLHAPPY!!
Major league PING!

the SLIMES of New York: "Whatever it takes...all the sleaze that is fit to print..."

2 posted on 06/18/2004 9:37:44 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: tallhappy

Er, Jayson Blair wrote all of that. We have no idea what he was talking about.

/NY Times


3 posted on 06/18/2004 9:38:11 AM PDT by johnfrink
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To: tallhappy
Thanks for posting this. Am gathering all of these together to send some liberal relatives and friends. Combined with the Putin statement, the Old Media has some explaining to do.
4 posted on 06/18/2004 9:39:08 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: tallhappy

Great find.


5 posted on 06/18/2004 9:41:50 AM PDT by thoughtomator (I stepped in some Chirac the other day and still can't get the stink out of my shoes!)
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To: thoughtomator

NY Times Editorial Fraud investigation department:

retrace@nytimes.com


6 posted on 06/18/2004 9:42:46 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: tallhappy

wow !!! frickin great job!


7 posted on 06/18/2004 9:43:52 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit (music, music and more music)
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To: tallhappy

WOW - this has to be one of the biggest finds ever!


8 posted on 06/18/2004 9:44:45 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: jimbo123

Ok I forwarded my letter there, thanks for the info


9 posted on 06/18/2004 9:45:18 AM PDT by thoughtomator (I stepped in some Chirac the other day and still can't get the stink out of my shoes!)
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To: tallhappy

BUMP! I just sent this out to my email list.


10 posted on 06/18/2004 9:45:57 AM PDT by ellery (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: tallhappy
This is very funny, too bad it's not a joke.

Then again maybe they're taking themselves down a peg at a time.

Even THEY can't get totally away with this s**t anymore.

Bush and Cheney are now taking them on DIRECTLY. HOORAY!!!

11 posted on 06/18/2004 9:47:16 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: Dog; Miss Marple; Peach; Iowa Granny; prairiebreeze; Molly Pitcher; kayak; Neets

Looky here!


12 posted on 06/18/2004 9:49:27 AM PDT by lysie (Accumulating FRequent FReeper miles.)
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To: tallhappy

Nice b*tchslap of the Grey Whore. Flaming, lying, Clymers, the lot of them....


13 posted on 06/18/2004 9:49:33 AM PDT by eureka! (May karma come back to the presstitutes and Rats in a material way.....)
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To: tallhappy

Oh, that is SOOOOO last century.


14 posted on 06/18/2004 9:49:49 AM PDT by The G Man (*** THIS SPACE FOR RENT ***)
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To: tallhappy

Nice.


15 posted on 06/18/2004 9:51:20 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: tallhappy

Both headlines are non-contrdictory. Remember that Saddam Hussein, who ruled Iraq in 1998, sits in jail in 2004. The Republic of Iraq today doesn't support terrorism; Saddam Hussein did.

I can only wish that was what the NYT reported


16 posted on 06/18/2004 9:51:49 AM PDT by dufekin (John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
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To: tallhappy

9/11 Commission is cover-up Visas that Should Have Been Denied
A look at 9/11 terrorists’ visa applications http://www.nationalreview.com/mowbray/mowbray100902.asp



17 posted on 06/18/2004 9:52:23 AM PDT by take
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To: tallhappy

Great find, tallhappy!

Bookmarked to my Iraq/AQ connection file.

Kudos.


18 posted on 06/18/2004 9:52:37 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: lysie

Thanks for the ping, lysie! Have added that great find to my Iraq/AQ connection file.


19 posted on 06/18/2004 9:53:13 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: tallhappy; FL_engineer; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Mo1
Thanks for posting this great find.

It is time for Punch and his slime ball editors to do the one honorable thing in their lives!

KITTY ENJOYS THE ONE HONORABLE THING DONE BY PUNCH AND THE NY SLIMES EDITORS.

20 posted on 06/18/2004 9:55:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( J.F.K. STANDS FOR: (JIHAD FOR KERRY!))
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To: tallhappy
That [characterization deleted] who gave us the Kosovo War, Richard Holbrooke, has been lying again, true to his partisan affiliation:
The Fog Of Invented Facts
by Edward Jay Epstein
The invented fact here is that Atta was on the CIA's watch list. Nor was he on any other government watch list prior to September 11th. Its repetition lays down a fog about the responsibility for the attack. For example, Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, when lecturing at the JFK Library on Oct 4th, 2001, described the "law enforcement failure" of September 11th as follows:
"To understand how bad it was, you need look no further than the specific movements of Mohammed Atta, who was probably the mastermind of these attacks, all of which has now been in the newspapers. The CIA put him on the watch list of most wanted terrorists in the world sometime in the early summer or late spring of this year... It is clear, therefore, that the FBI. and the FAA. don't talk to each other, that the FBI. never gave the watch list names to leading American airlines"
Soooo, how is it that Holbrooke opposes the GWB moves (which were passed by both houses of Congress by huge majorities)? Because he's a lying liar, unlike the victims of Al Franken's latest POS.

Epstein is described as a liberal by William Safire, who cites his website. Epstein's writing is more commonly found on Slate (hardly a conservative publication), the NY Times, and other bastions of the partisans. The following piece appeared in the local paper here sometime after it was first published.
Missing Links Found
by William Safire
November 24, 2003
Remember how anti-liberation politicians and journalists pooh-poohed Colin Powell's February 2003 speech to the U.N. about the presence in Iraq of a Qaeda associate, identified in this space as Abu Musab al-Zarqawi? Powell's assertion had this "sensitive reporting" basis: "As of Oct. 2002 al Zarqawi was setting up sleeper cells in Baghdad to be activated in case of a U.S. occupation of the city." ...Feith's intelligence summary available to senators: "The Czech counterintelligence service reported that the Sept. 11 hijacker [Mohamed] Atta met with the former Iraqi intelligence chief in Prague, al Ani, on several occasions. During one of those meetings, al Ani ordered the IIS [Iraq Intelligence Service] finance officer to issue Atta funds from IIS financial holdings in the Prague office." ...Though the C.I.A. can confirm two Atta trips to Prague, in 1994 and 2000, it cannot confirm the two other visits the Czechs reported, including one on April 9, 2001, with Saddam's top European agent, al-Ani, then vice consul in Prague. C.I.A. chief George Tenet testified that the meeting reported by the Czech service was "possible," but the F.B.I. floated hints that car rental records showed Atta to be traveling between Virginia and Florida that week. Enter the writer Edward Jay Epstein in the liberal online journal Slate: "All these reports attributed to the FBI were, as it turns out, erroneous. There were no car rental records in Virginia, Florida, or anywhere else in April 2001 for Mohamed Atta, since he had not yet obtained his Florida license." You cannot rent a car without a driver's license.

21 posted on 06/18/2004 9:55:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: tallhappy
Discussion over here also:

Nets Pounce on No bin Laden-Saddam Link, But Bush Believed Media

22 posted on 06/18/2004 9:55:58 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: tallhappy
Good work!!!

Think they will pull this article (here) from their site?

23 posted on 06/18/2004 9:57:11 AM PDT by lysie (Accumulating FRequent FReeper miles.)
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To: tallhappy; Peach; Mo1; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Ragtime Cowgirl; SheLion; PhiKapMom; backhoe; ...

This is a great find and post by tallhappy!


24 posted on 06/18/2004 9:57:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( J.F.K. STANDS FOR: (JIHAD FOR KERRY!))
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To: jimbo123
NY Times Editorial Fraud investigation department: retrace@nytimes.com

Yeah, maybe the New York Times will investigate itself and bust this case wide open!
Just like Janet Reno did on all of those Clinton scandals!

 
 
Click HERE for

The John Kerry Files
-at-
The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection

25 posted on 06/18/2004 9:58:15 AM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.freepgs.com/counterpunch)
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To: BlessedByLiberty
"Thanks for posting this. Am gathering all of these together to send some liberal relatives and friends. Combined with the Putin statement, the Old Media has some explaining to do."

Can you please email to me privately?

26 posted on 06/18/2004 9:59:22 AM PDT by paulsy
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To: tallhappy

We all know that the NY Times has an agenda. They aren't journalists, they are propagandists.


27 posted on 06/18/2004 10:01:22 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: tallhappy

I heard a man being interviewed yesterday by Larry Elder who mentioned this same info about the Iraqi-Osama agreement.


28 posted on 06/18/2004 10:01:32 AM PDT by Feiny (I can resist anything but temptation.)
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To: Peach

Rock on!

I'll tell you, if every Freeper would do two hours of research a week browsing through that vast land of Liberal-Media-Past, we would have tons of ammunition. Almost too much to fathom, I reckon.

I think I need to get off my butt and do as such.


29 posted on 06/18/2004 10:03:25 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Florida 2000: There Would Have Been No 5-4 Without A 7-2)
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To: tallhappy; Mo1; Grampa Dave; Defender2; Alamo-Girl; NormsRevenge; Dog; Peach; Howlin; McGavin999; ..
Both indictments offer new information about Mr. bin Laden's operations, including one deal he is said to have struck with Iraq to cooperate in the development of weapons in return for Mr. bin Laden's agreeing not to work against that country.

That detail seems to be in an 8 page indictment rather than the 157 page indictment. (as near as I can tell!)

The 8 page indictment is here:

http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/indict1.pdf

Go to page 3 .. Number 4

Mo1 found this one.

_______________________________________________________________________________

The phrase in the document is a two-bagger.
It references both Iran and Iraq!!!!

30 posted on 06/18/2004 10:05:31 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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ROFL!!!


31 posted on 06/18/2004 10:07:00 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: tallhappy
Time to again post my all-time favorite Ann Coulter quote:

Liberals simply can't grasp the problem Lexis-Nexis poses to their incessant lying.

32 posted on 06/18/2004 10:07:42 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: torchthemummy

Just share what we find with your e-mail friends.

They will share with their friends.

This is the power we have over the media.


33 posted on 06/18/2004 10:08:08 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: tallhappy

Outstanding, will have to check out the indictment.


34 posted on 06/18/2004 10:08:37 AM PDT by Made In The USA (REMEMBER NICK BERG.)
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To: MEGoody
We all know that the NY Times has an agenda. They aren't journalists, they are propagandists.

BINGO

35 posted on 06/18/2004 10:09:03 AM PDT by Mo1 (That's right Old Media .... PRESIDENT BUSH IS A LEADER!)
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To: Mo1

I swear I was about to email Rush - he is reading the article right now.

Wow!!!!!

Think he's a Freeper?


36 posted on 06/18/2004 10:10:10 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Florida 2000: There Would Have Been No 5-4 Without A 7-2)
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To: tallhappy

Great find. Rush is reading this article now!


37 posted on 06/18/2004 10:10:10 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: torchthemummy
Think he's a Freeper?

If not .. I'll bet someone on his staff is

38 posted on 06/18/2004 10:12:15 AM PDT by Mo1 (That's right Old Media .... PRESIDENT BUSH IS A LEADER!)
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To: All

on Rush now!


39 posted on 06/18/2004 10:12:36 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: torchthemummy

Someone on his staff regularly reads FR, that's for certain. He will often pick up the really devastating stories published here, very soon after they hit the forum.


40 posted on 06/18/2004 10:13:34 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The New York Times: All the Lies that Fit the Socialist Agenda)
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To: Mo1

Yup!

From a Freeper's outstanding research to millions of ears.


41 posted on 06/18/2004 10:13:41 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Florida 2000: There Would Have Been No 5-4 Without A 7-2)
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To: tallhappy

Rush is just started talking about this--- he's been lurking again.


42 posted on 06/18/2004 10:14:38 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Rush is doing this beautifully!

Bush even is on fire, reading the 1940's article from the NY Times that Rush mentioned yesterday.


43 posted on 06/18/2004 10:18:17 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: jackbill
Liberals simply can't grasp the problem Lexis-Nexis poses to their incessant lying.

LOL ... all they need is google ..

I found LOADS of articles from 1998 mentioning the connection

Like this one .. Gosh I love research *L*

Saddam link to Bin Laden Terror chief 'offered asylum' in Iraq? US says dealings step up danger of chemical weapons attacks

(SNIP)

Saddam Hussein's regime has opened talks with Osama bin Laden, bringing closer the threat of a terrorist attack using chemical, biological or nuclear weapons, according to US intelligence sources and Iraqi opposition officials.

The key meeting took place in the Afghan mountains near Kandahar in late December. The Iraqi delegation was led by Farouk Hijazi, Baghdad's ambassador in Turkey and one of Saddam's most powerful secret policemen, who is thought to have offered Bin Laden asylum in Iraq

44 posted on 06/18/2004 10:19:15 AM PDT by Mo1 (That's right Old Media .... PRESIDENT BUSH IS A LEADER!)
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To: Mo1

Pakistan helped Osama, Iraq didn't: 9/11 panel



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/742828.cms


45 posted on 06/18/2004 10:24:03 AM PDT by take
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To: tallhappy

Of course they have amnesia, it doesn't fit into their agenda. The truth according to liberals is whatever is more politically expedient at the time, and many times it is quite marxist.


46 posted on 06/18/2004 10:24:44 AM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: tallhappy

You don't get it. We apoligized for our mistaken, biased coverage in the run-up to the war in Iraq because it fits our agenda to defeat Mr. Bush at all costs. This includes any statement made by anyone claiming Mr. Hussein was a bad man or acted in concert with bad men, like Osama Bin Laden. It's not like we're going to tell you that there's a tape graphically depicting prison torture directed Mr. Hussein. Only American troops can systematically torture Iraqi prisoners. Remember Abu Ghraib?

We apologized. Why hasn't Mr. Bush apologized? Mr. Bush should apologize to the American people for letting them think Mr. Hussein was an evil dictator. Things are not so black and white. Why hasn't Mr. Bush apologized? Mr. Bush is not nuanced and his world view is simplistic. Why hasn't Mr. Bush apologized? We apologized. Why hasn't Mr. Bush apologized?

Sincerely,

The New York Times

P.S. Why hasn't Mr. Bush apologized?

/sarcasm


47 posted on 06/18/2004 10:25:05 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: tallhappy

Bump


48 posted on 06/18/2004 10:29:10 AM PDT by Inyokern
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To: feinswinesuksass
I heard a man being interviewed yesterday by Larry Elder who mentioned this same info about the Iraqi-Osama agreement.

From one El Dorado to another, his name is Stephen Hayes, his new book is called "Connection".

He also writes for the Weekly Standard.

49 posted on 06/18/2004 10:34:13 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: tallhappy
Nice job of skewering them on their own words.

I am certain they will maintain that "the truth changed", as "everyone knows" WJC's administration was riddled with lies....

50 posted on 06/18/2004 10:36:40 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry{D-Hanoi} will graff post-Vietnam policy on Iraq: Exit & let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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