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Iran massing troops on Iraq border
UPI ^ | 6/15/04 | UPI

Posted on 06/15/2004 5:40:39 PM PDT by freedom44

Beirut -- Iran reportedly is readying troops to move into Iraq if U.S. troops pull out, leaving a security vacuum.

The Saudi daily Al-Sharq al-Awsat, monitored in Beirut, reports Iran has massed four battalions at the border.

Al-Sharq al-Awsat quoted "reliable Iraqi sources" as saying, "Iran moved part of its regular military forces towards the Iraqi border in the southern sector at a time its military intelligence agents were operating inside Iraqi territory."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; troopbuildup
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1 posted on 06/15/2004 5:40:40 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

I guess they haven't heard of a little thing called the United States Air Force?


2 posted on 06/15/2004 5:42:58 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: fightu4it

They may also be preparing their own October Surprise to give Jean-Francois Kerry a boost.


3 posted on 06/15/2004 5:46:05 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Argus

Maybe a June 30 surprise.


4 posted on 06/15/2004 5:47:00 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: freedom44

The Imams and Clerics probably, through state controlled propoganda, have the military and people of Iran thinking we just barely won the war, and that we'll be no problem should they try to take advantage of the situation.


5 posted on 06/15/2004 5:47:18 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: fightu4it

Until you have seen a B52 bombing run - it is not possible to imagine the power.


6 posted on 06/15/2004 5:47:23 PM PDT by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: freedom44

Ten US Navy Carriers
Now At Sea - Only Two In Port
USS Carl Vinson Has Gone Out
From Radwick
6-10-4



This brings the number of carriers over the horizon to 10.

This would prove to be a most COSTLY exercise if in fact this is ONLY an exercise.

OR,Are they all on emergency operational deployment???

Of the remaining 2 carriers only USS Nimitz is deployable as the USS Eisenhower is having its nuclear power plant refuelled and will be out of commission for several years.

USS Carl Vinson goes out.

http://www.cvn70.navy.mil/

USS Abraham Lincoln goes out.

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/04..._lincoln001.cfm

USS Roosevelt off the coast of Europe

http://www.centredaily.com/mld/cent...ews/8800488.htm

Seven carrier battle groups deployed in "summer pulse 04".

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/...9-1m4pulse.html

Notice how the article says that the seven carriers deployed represent every carrier that is seaworthy. When in reality there are now 10 carriers at sea. Completely unprecedented.

Seven Carrier Strike Groups Underway for Exercise "Summer Pulse 04"

The seven aircraft carriers involved in "Summer Pulse 04" will include: the Norfolk-based USS George Washington CSG and the San Diego-based USS John C. Stennis CSG, both currently deployed, and Yokosuka, Japan-based USS Kitty Hawk. The Mayport, Fla.-based USS John F Kennedy CSG will begin a combined and joint exercise early this month, followed by a scheduled overseas deployment. The Norfolk-based USS Harry S. Truman CSG will conduct a scheduled training exercise followed by overseas pulse operations with the Norfolk-based USS Enterprise CSG, beginning early this month. USS Ronald Reagan will conduct operations in the U.S. Northern Command and U.S. Southern Command theaters during the ship's interfleet transfer from Norfolk, Va., to its Pacific Fleet homeport of San Diego.

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases...40602-0856.html

Where are the Carriers?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/frp.htm

US Navy

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milit...navy/index.html

Very unusual....especially as most of UK royal navy put to sea a few weeks ago....

Operations Map

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/3959.html


7 posted on 06/15/2004 5:50:03 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
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To: freedom44

This story was posted today. It's only about a brigade- made up of small battalions. Probably more symbolic than anything else.


8 posted on 06/15/2004 5:51:05 PM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: freedom44

They train suicide bombers, won't cooperate with inspectors, and now this. What does a member of the axis of evil have to do to get publicly threatened by us?


9 posted on 06/15/2004 5:52:13 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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To: taxcontrol

Followed up with an entire wing of A-10s flying in echelons of threes, nose slightly down and .........

Followed by US attack choppers to clean up any stragglers.


10 posted on 06/15/2004 5:53:06 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: abner

What if Iran has nukes? Maybe a few battalions is all they want on the front.


11 posted on 06/15/2004 5:53:41 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: freedom44

Don't suppose they are just tourist wanting to visit the new pizza joints? naa, more likely they wish to set the tables on fire and pillage the Parmesan cheese coffers, and to think the these guys are the ones who complained that the Shaw took advantage of the local peasants!


12 posted on 06/15/2004 5:54:04 PM PDT by seastay
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To: freedom44
Iran massing troops on Iraq border

"G-d, how I love the splattering sound of anti-personnel cluster bombs
hitting massed troops in the morning!"

--said with the hope that none of the massed Iranian troops would be the
majority of Iranians who'd like to be friendly with the USA
13 posted on 06/15/2004 5:54:28 PM PDT by VOA
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To: taxcontrol

Remember the "highway of death" in '92? Well, I think it's time we gear those Stratofortresses up for another run. .....this time for a little "border of death" action.


14 posted on 06/15/2004 5:54:33 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: RightWhale

We should probably assume that they do have them already.

Surprises like nukes are never a good thing.


15 posted on 06/15/2004 5:55:02 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: freedom44
Iran massing troops targets on Iraq border
16 posted on 06/15/2004 5:55:49 PM PDT by Redcloak (My tagline was abducted by aliens and replaced with this exact duplicate.)
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To: SandRat
Followed up with an entire wing of A-10s flying in echelons of threes,
nose slightly down and .........

Followed by US attack choppers to clean up any stragglers.


12 more years of increased technology...
this time there won't be a "Highway of Death", it could be more like the
"Provincial Region of Death" on the tourist maps of 2005.
17 posted on 06/15/2004 5:56:22 PM PDT by VOA
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To: freedom44

"C'mon little mice...just follow the scent to the cheese...and take a nibble..."


18 posted on 06/15/2004 5:56:57 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: fightu4it
Excellent!, time to feign a pullback! Later, we could say they tried to take advantage of a troop rotation.
19 posted on 06/15/2004 5:57:01 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: abner
My hope is an attack will happen! Previous intelligence reports indicate the people of Iran are more than ready to support an overthrow of their government.

We could end up with a twofer here. If only we could get Syria to join with the Iranians. Now that would be frosting on the cake!!!

20 posted on 06/15/2004 6:00:58 PM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: freedom44

Give the Iranians fair warning first. Play a CD of Jennifer Lopez singing for a full night and if they haven't evaporated by morning you can follow up with a Yoko Ono tune to finish whoever is left.


21 posted on 06/15/2004 6:03:28 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: freedom44

Lord, protect us from idiots in Wash, the UN and elsewhere. Let us deal with this decisively!


22 posted on 06/15/2004 6:03:47 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: MadIvan

ping

(READ THIS, PLEASE)


23 posted on 06/15/2004 6:05:25 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: fightu4it; taxcontrol

You think there'd be a few survivors left over from the Taliban to tell them what B-52s and WCMD (INS-guided cluster bombs) can do to troops in the open.

Unless they choose to walk, their motor transport will show up as a nice, bright line to our JSTARS, and we've got A-10s at Balad just waiting to go nuts on 'em.

On the other hand, if they choose to walk, so as to avoid our surveillence systems, then we've got a few thousand bright spots on AC-130 IR displays.

There is a reason that the Iraqis chose to fight in cities, such as Nasiriyah. Troops in the open are just waiting to be destroyed by air power.


24 posted on 06/15/2004 6:05:45 PM PDT by HerrKobes
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To: freedom44
I HOPE they're feeling froggy.
25 posted on 06/15/2004 6:06:26 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Robert Drobot
Previous intelligence reports indicate the people of Iran are more than ready to support an overthrow of their government

I agree and hope that the Iranian people are with us.

26 posted on 06/15/2004 6:10:18 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: LibWhacker
Iran denies buildup
27 posted on 06/15/2004 6:11:05 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: All

President Mohammad Khatami, aims a rifle during his visit from Iran's Defense Ministry in Tehran. In a letter to the leaders of Britain, Germany and France, Khatami accused the EU trio of working with Tehran's arch-foe Washington to heap pressure on the Islamic Republic. (AP Photo/ISNA, Forootan)
28 posted on 06/15/2004 6:13:01 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: abner
Iran denies buildup

That's right.

There is no troop build up.

That is a Kerry campaign rally from foreign leaders who support him.


29 posted on 06/15/2004 6:14:03 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: VOA

hmmmm .... I wonder just how far along the LASER Weapon that we are just now are hearing that DOD is developing really is? Remember how we SUDDENLY found out that the STEALTH fighter (F-117A) had been in full operation for 10 years when DOD was only talking in the press of its development?


30 posted on 06/15/2004 6:15:12 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

*L* Exactly. Last year at an air show I actually came within 10ft of an F117-A in a STATIC DISPLAY. They had it cordoned off and two guys with M16s standing guard over it. I remember thinking 'Oh shit what are they working on NOW....?'


31 posted on 06/15/2004 6:19:25 PM PDT by Severa (Wife of Freeper Hostel, USN STS3(SS))
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To: freedom44

The Iranians, along with much of the Muslim world, are mistaking US restraint in its attack on Saddam's Iraq, which was not intended to devastate the country (and didn't),and the difficulties in trying to pacify and stabilize the nation without destroying it, for a lack of military prowess. As Al jolson once said (as echoed by the Gipper): "You aint seen nothin' yet!"


32 posted on 06/15/2004 6:21:04 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Reagan won the cold war. Of course the left isn't impressed since they rooted for the other side.)
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To: freedom44

Bad form, Mr. Khatami! Was there not another fearless leader who liked to play with guns? Where is he now?


33 posted on 06/15/2004 6:21:46 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Robert Drobot
...reports indicate the people of Iran are more than ready to support an overthrow of their government.

Hmmm. Where have I heard something like that before?

34 posted on 06/15/2004 6:24:14 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Reagan won the cold war. Of course the left isn't impressed since they rooted for the other side.)
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To: freedom44

END OF DISCUSSION ON IRAN

35 posted on 06/15/2004 6:25:31 PM PDT by Militiaman7 (Fear not tomorrow, God is already there.)
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To: freedom44

If I correctly remember the makeup of four battalions, it's only about 800 men. Hardly worth using the term "massing".


36 posted on 06/15/2004 6:29:39 PM PDT by SpitfyrAce
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To: freedom44

My guess is they know the Iraqies wont ask the US to leave after june 30 if they are ammassed there using our troops as pawns in our own elections to try and give kerry the ammo to shoot at Bush and at the same time making the Iraqie people nervous about soverignty

Asking us to leave would hurt them keeping us there hurts them and us but now if we do it right we could strike dead at iran and be well justified in pulling troops from korea and germany to do it re-enforcing our strengths and teaching iran a valuable lesson in FUBAR !


37 posted on 06/15/2004 6:34:32 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (‘All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.’ TJefferson)
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To: freedom44

The Iranian high command must have missed the "Bring It On" news conference.


38 posted on 06/15/2004 6:37:01 PM PDT by azcap
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To: Finalapproach29er

Do we have UN approval and every nation on earth as allies for this pending operationm? No? Good!


39 posted on 06/15/2004 6:38:08 PM PDT by TonyM (E)
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To: freedom44

Got news for Iran. Our guys won't be leaving Iraq for a long, long, time.


40 posted on 06/15/2004 6:40:07 PM PDT by TonyM (E)
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To: Argus

If Iran really wants to have nukes I thing we should let them have a few. We could have them there in less than an hour.


41 posted on 06/15/2004 6:42:04 PM PDT by TonyM (E)
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To: SandRat
You can check up on it HERE There is some recent news, but I wouldn't think that we may not be much further along than reported.
42 posted on 06/15/2004 6:42:23 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: freedom44; F14 Pilot

Keep your head down!

Stock up on water!!

and toilet paper!


43 posted on 06/15/2004 6:45:28 PM PDT by RaceBannon (God Bless Ronald Reagan, and may America Bless God!)
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To: freedom44
I'm sorry but four battalions isn't a mass of anything. A mess perhaps but not a mass.
44 posted on 06/15/2004 6:46:44 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: freedom44

I wouldn't be surprised if Iran doesn't demonstrate its nuclear capability this summer.


45 posted on 06/15/2004 6:47:20 PM PDT by Ranger
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To: fightu4it
I guess they haven't heard of a little thing called the United States Air Force?
Amen!

These camel jockeys have obviously not learned a thing from their cousins living in America.

We Americans don't even know how to spell "retreet" why the word is not even in our vocabulary!
And we have no intention of making the same mistake we made in Viet Nam...
So they can amass their mothers on the border for all we care and the only thing they will have to do is "dig a hole" to bury them! 'Cause we will wipe them off the face of the earth as easily as we did their predecessors.

Semper Fi, Kelly
46 posted on 06/15/2004 6:58:38 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: freedom44
They ain't going anywhere with only a Regt. I don't think I'd get bothered with a Division either. Their present effort is nothing but bluff and not much of that!!!
47 posted on 06/15/2004 7:07:20 PM PDT by Joee
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To: freedom44
They better watch out for this new weapon!


48 posted on 06/15/2004 7:09:48 PM PDT by SirChas
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To: freedom44; Eagle9; freedox; chesty_puller; GRRRRR; MouthOfTheSouth; Memother; joan_30; ...
Heres a juicy little morsel to chew on as well Almost falls together like a puzzle !

Russia Favors Iran Route For Crude Exports

49 posted on 06/15/2004 7:13:21 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (‘All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.’ TJefferson)
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To: freedom44
Better fasten our seat belts, the ride is likely to get bumpy from here on.

I wouldn't be too surprised to see Iranian attacks into Iraq in coordination with terrorist strikes here at home and maybe elsewhere in the world as well.

50 posted on 06/15/2004 7:27:07 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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