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Bowling for 'Fahrenheit': The 411
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | May 30, 2004 | Roger Ebert

Posted on 05/30/2004 6:15:39 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist

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To: Howlin
Moore says he is considering streaming video of the classroom incident on the Web.

Speaking of "the Web", Moore's website has been down that I know of for a good 20 hours of so.

Another freeper told me last night he noticed that, too,and he said it is not being overwhelmed with hits. He checked and it has been taken completely offline.

I was going to check it yesterday because I read a post where the person asserted Moore's film was finished long before Berg went missing in Iraq. I distinctly remembered a post Moore made on his website on about May 4 or so telling his fans how he was still editing his movie.

I was able to find a FR thread that had cut and pasted Moore's notes from *April 14* (Berg disappeared *April 9*) where he brags about having the two (later at Cannes he says "three") cameramen/reporters over in Iraq, unknown to the Army. That alone demonstrates overlap of the two stories.

41 posted on 05/31/2004 9:34:51 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Howlin

Ann Compton.


42 posted on 05/31/2004 9:40:14 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Howlin

I remember those too. Yet Moore and his ilk, even with these and the hours of phone sex during who knows what world event, are more interested in studying what President Bush did for 6-10 minutes after learning of the WTC attacks. These people turn my stomach.


43 posted on 05/31/2004 9:41:14 AM PDT by Dolphy
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IMO, they like to bring up the classroom and reading a children's book because it conjurs up the image that the President's reading ability hovers around that level.

It is vicious, and is one main reason Kristen Breitweiser (among the many reasons, but this is chief among them) gets no sympathy from me, at this point.


44 posted on 05/31/2004 9:42:04 AM PDT by cyncooper
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Yes, thanks! Too many things going on here today!


45 posted on 05/31/2004 9:42:35 AM PDT by Howlin
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It is vicious, and is one main reason Kristen Breitweiser (among the many reasons, but this is chief among them) gets no sympathy from me, at this point.

Funny you should bring her up; I was thinking about her when I read this remark from Moore:

"It should have occurred to Bush after the first attack that it involved the same building where the only previous foreign attack on America occurred.

Now far be it from me to judge anybody, but her husband had worked in the WTC for ten years; she herself said that he was coming down Tower One when the announcement was made that it was safe to stay and he went BACK up to his office, above the 90th floor.

It seems to be that if you had been there in 1993 and there was a plane on fire in a building 100 yards or less from where you were, you'd think twice about going back up.

But that's just me; and I won't sink to their level. But the same questions should be applied to her husband as well, IMO.

46 posted on 05/31/2004 9:50:53 AM PDT by Howlin
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It is the same question, but it illustrates that when such an event happens, calm and cool instantaeous assessments of what is really going on, within seconds, demanded in retrospect, are supremely unreasonable.

Your point is different, though--and you're NOT sinking to her level, because we DON'T mock or put down those in the towers who didn't evacuate immmediately because they "should have" (as Moore would have it) instantly remembered '93 and realized the first plane was terrorism.

President Bush, while clearly alarmed at the news, took time to calmly gather his wits before making an exit without causing a scene. As you point out, he then did NOT participate in photo-ops, but began communicating with staff and being briefed and so on. Photographers took pictures as this went on, and no doubt that is what the malignant and odious Moore is referring to.

What did they think he should have done in those very few minutes between being informed of the second plane and exiting the classroom? There is no answer. They ACT like he could have stopped everything from happening or the usual "done something".

It drives me insane, too. And if they are going to raise these "questions", then apply the same standard all around. It is incredible they raise this line of "reasoning" at all and that there are so many who want to eat it right up.


47 posted on 05/31/2004 10:10:12 AM PDT by cyncooper
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As usual, thank you for putting my thoughts into succinct English.


48 posted on 05/31/2004 10:20:16 AM PDT by Howlin
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"Since he should have considered himself a target, wasn't he endangering those children by staying in their school?"

Moore says he is considering streaming video of the classroom incident on the Web."

I was not near a television until late afternoon on 911, so will someone who was, correct me if I'm wrong. Was not the footage from the school, delayed airing by tape on that day? (The way we see a lot of Presidential appearances similar to that) I'd be surprised if it was being streamed live, the way Moore purports to show it.

49 posted on 05/31/2004 3:41:11 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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Shoot, meant to post #49 to you, also.


50 posted on 05/31/2004 3:42:03 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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The person BJ Clinton kept waiting was not an ambassador, it was his favorite foreign "head of state," Nobel laureate Yasser Arafat. At least that one was reported...maybe he also kept an ambassador waiting on another occasion.


51 posted on 06/01/2004 8:04:47 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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