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Guilt Free FRONTLINE: "The Way The Music Died"
PBS/FRONTLINE ^ | 05/26/04 | PBS/FRONTLINE

Posted on 05/26/2004 8:28:06 AM PDT by FilmCutter

THE WAY THE MUSIC DIED PBS Airdate: Thursday, May 27, at 9 P.M., 60 minutes

In the recording studios of Los Angeles and the boardrooms of New York, they say the record business has been hit by a perfect storm: a convergence of industry-wide consolidation, Internet theft, and artistic drought. The effect has been the loss of billions of dollars, thousands of jobs, and that indefinable quality that once characterized American pop music.

“It’s a classic example of art and commerce colliding and nobody wins,” says Nic Harcourt, music director at Los Angeles’s KCRW-FM. “It’s just a train wreck.”

In “The Way the Music Died,” airing Thursday, May 27, at 9 P.M. on PBS (check local listings), FRONTLINE® follows the trajectory of the recording industry from its post-Woodstock heyday in the 1970s and 1980s to what one observer describes as a “hysteria” of mass layoffs and bankruptcy in 2004.

“This is the story of how the pressures to perform financially have affected the ability of many pop musicians to make the art they want,” says FRONTLINE producer Michael Kirk. “The starkness of the difference between the environment that exists in the midst of this ‘perfect storm’ and the way the business once operated is nothing short of astonishing.”

The documentary tells its story through the aspirations and experiences of four artists: veteran musician David Crosby, who has seen it all in a career spanning 35 years; songwriter/producer Mark Hudson, a former member of The Hudson Brothers band; Hudson’s daughter, Sarah, who is about to release her first single and album; and a new rock band, Velvet Revolver, composed of former members of the rock groups Guns n’ Roses and Stone Temple Pilots, whose first album will be released in June. But how will these artists fare at a time when the record industry is clearly hurting?

“It’s a big moment,” says Melinda Newman, West Coast bureau chief for Billboard magazine. “There are about 30,000 albums released a year, maybe a hundred are hits. Sales have fallen from $40 billion to $28 billion in just three years.”

FRONTLINE follows the trends in the record business that led to unprecedented growth of more than 20 percent per year in the 25 years following the industry watershed at Woodstock. Crosby, for example, recalls how his new band’s album made millions after Crosby, Stills, and Nash performed at the legendary rock concert.

“It was the moment when all that generation of hippies looked at each other and said, ‘Wait a minute! We’re not a fringe element. There’s millions of us! We’re what’s happening here,’” Crosby tells FRONTLINE.

FRONTLINE follows the career of rocker Mark Hudson, whose group The Hudson Brothers began as a 1970s rock band. “It was post-Woodstock, pre-disco, pre-MTV. So it was a point when music still had truckloads of integrity,” Hudson tells FRONTLINE. “Somebody was getting ready to exploit rock and roll.”

Hudson tells his story of how the business changed him and how The Hudson Brothers ended up becoming TV stars as the summer replacement for the Sonny and Cher Comedy Hour. In the early 1980s, MTV fueled a further explosion of interest and seemed to broaden the appeal of rock music.

But surprisingly, there are those who now argue MTV was a negative force. “What it did really is make the business a one trick pony—and everything became about the three minutes, the single, the hit single,” entertainment attorney Michael Guido tells FRONTLINE. “I think the album died with MTV. The culture in the record companies in the last twenty years has been to reward artists for three minutes of music, not for forty minutes of music.”

Some critics fear that the industry’s need for quick hits has made it difficult for more adventurous artists to offer the unique sounds and challenging themes that have long been the hallmark of the best album artists.

FRONTLINE also examines the effect of consolidation of ownership on the music industry. “What you had were these people who had been tremendous entrepreneurs…bought up by a multi-conglomerate,” Billboard’s Newman says. “And it just changes the complexion. The whole way you’re having to make decisions is based on different models.”

Michael “Blue” Williams, manager of the Grammy Award-winning OutKast, agrees. “We’re run by corporations now,” he says. “We have accountants running two of four majors now, and they don’t get it. It’s a numbers game. And music has always been a feelings game.”

The consolidation of the radio industry also negatively impacted the recording industry, observers say. “Thousands of radio stations changed hands, and companies that wanted to really get on radio were able to pull up some enormous multibillion dollar mergers,” Los Angeles Times reporter Jeff Leeds tells FRONTLINE. “Suddenly a company that once owned three dozen stations could suddenly own a thousand.”

With programming decisions centralized at the corporate level, most stations follow a mandated play list. In some cases, it’s just fourteen songs per week—leaving little airtime for the introduction of new artists.

FRONTLINE profiles Mark Hudson’s daughter singer/songwriter Sarah Hudson as she prepares to release her first album at a time when the music industry is struggling. “For any new artist, the odds are almost insurmountable. I think if they knew the odds, they would never get in the first place. You know, the vast, vast majority of records go absolutely no where,” Newman says.

Vying with Hudson for a place on the Billboard charts is Velvet Revolver, a “super band” backed by RCA Records, a label that is betting heavily on the group. FRONTLINE follows the marketing of the band as its members struggle to return to the spotlight. Velvet Revolver’s manager says success takes more than an expensive video and a marketing campaign. “It’s still all about the kids. If the kids want to request it, it gets played more and more. The more it gets played, the more people buy. The more people buy, the more records they sell. The more records they sell, shazam, you’re a rock star,” David Codikow says.

“The Way the Music Died” is a FRONTLINE co-production with the Kirk Documentary Group. The producer, writer, and director is Michael Kirk.

FRONTLINE is produced by WGBH Boston and is broadcast nationwide on PBS. Funding for FRONTLINE is provided through the support of PBS viewers. Additional support is provided by U.S. News & World Report. FRONTLINE is closed-captioned for deaf and hard-of-hearing viewers. FRONTLINE is a registered trademark of WGBH Educational Foundation. The executive producer for FRONTLINE is David Fanning.


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Not your average downer from FRONTLINE, so don't expect a critique of the business or of music. Think of it as a romp through the maze of the industry.

"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench,a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free,and good men die like dogs.

There's also a negative side."

Attributed to Hunter S. Thompson

I hope you all watch and enjoy, FilmCutter

1 posted on 05/26/2004 8:28:09 AM PDT by FilmCutter
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To: FilmCutter
convergence of industry-wide consolidation, Internet theft, and artistic drought.

I'd say "Artistic Drought" is the leading cause. Fewer and fewer "artists" out there worth listening to, 'specially when they go hip-hop.

2 posted on 05/26/2004 8:32:23 AM PDT by theDentist (John Kerry never saw a TAX he wouldn't HIKE !!!)
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To: FilmCutter

Not one word of the RIAA lawsuit debacle.


3 posted on 05/26/2004 8:36:44 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: FilmCutter
But surprisingly, there are those who now argue MTV was a negative force. “What it did really is make the business a one trick pony—and everything became about the three minutes, the single, the hit single,”

From my limited knowledge of late 20th century American market pop music.

"Hey Jude" broke the 3 minute rule for hit singles and after that concept albums ascended with the zenith being "Dark Side of the Moon" in 73.

Then MTV appears and brings back the 3 minute rule.

MTV has now degenerated into mindless programming dreck, everything form "Jackass" to the "Real World", IMO.

4 posted on 05/26/2004 8:38:02 AM PDT by Dane
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To: theDentist

Exactly. There is NO original music anymore (at least it tends to be fairly rare). All the Britney clones, and hip-hop clones... And it's all bubble-gum pop, created by a bunch of paid "songwriters" in the big studios to write for the "idols". Are we ever gonna see stars that write their own music anymore? Music that has meaning and just isn't about angst and sex and Me-Me-Me?


5 posted on 05/26/2004 8:38:03 AM PDT by Clock King
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To: theDentist
There's always good, new music available for purchase, you just don't hear it much on the radio.
6 posted on 05/26/2004 8:38:19 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: theDentist
I don't agree with your hip-hop comment as many black hip-hop artists are the last bastions where the music is written from the heart (or streets as it may) rather than some preconceived, chart-topping, mechanical garbage. I agree with the rest of you post.

As a life long Led Zeppelin fan I see what's happening in the world of music today, sit back and laugh. Zep was constantly panned by the "critics" as garbage yet some 25-years after their last true studio album was released their music is just as vital today as it was in the 70's.
7 posted on 05/26/2004 8:39:17 AM PDT by God luvs America (Support Our Troops....Don't vote for Kerry!)
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To: theDentist
When I look at my CD purchases in the past year there are very few big name act. I've bought some old releases from bands I like and lots of stuff from less well known bands.

Also, I've bought more used CDs. The web is amazing for that. Something which I want which used to be collecting dust in a used record store in Texas can now be put on the web for anyone to buy anywhere. Unless I am desparate to get a new album, I'll check the prices on used ones first. I haven't gotten a bad one yet.

8 posted on 05/26/2004 8:39:18 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Teach a Democrat to fish and he will curse you for not just giving him the fish.)
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To: FilmCutter

Artistic drought, my @ss. There are thousands of incredible bands out there that the major labels refuse to sign. The RIAA is an impediment to good music and have only themselves to blame. Whiners!


9 posted on 05/26/2004 8:39:53 AM PDT by inkling
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To: theDentist

With some exceptions, the quality of popular music has been in a steady free-fall since the 1970s ended. I am amazed at how much crap I hear on the radio these days; I am even more amazed at how many different radio stations in the same market all seem to be playing the same crap.


10 posted on 05/26/2004 8:40:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: KarlInOhio
Let's pause a moment and mourn the passing of WOXY 97.7.

The only decent rock station in southwest Ohio.

11 posted on 05/26/2004 8:42:54 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Teach a Democrat to fish and he will curse you for not just giving him the fish.)
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To: Dane

"Hey Jude" broke the 3 minute rule..."

I think I'd credit Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone" (1965) with breaking this rule. It ran out to around 6 1/2 minutes, as I recall.


12 posted on 05/26/2004 8:45:25 AM PDT by beelzepug (I'll take "Why Me?" for a thousand, Alex.)
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To: theDentist
I'd say "Artistic Drought" is the leading cause.

Amen. It's been downhill since the Kingston Trio.

Sooner or later a new generation will arise and discover that there is a whole musical world beyond the electric guitar.

13 posted on 05/26/2004 8:46:50 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: KarlInOhio
Also, I've bought more used CDs

I'm dating my age but I remember when you could buy used LP's at any street near a college.

This is just my opinion, but a band that would put out a CD in a LP sized cardboard cover(wrap the CD in plastic and a paper sleeve) with some good artwork and liner notes, could get themselves noticed.

Oh yeah the music has to be good also.

14 posted on 05/26/2004 8:47:41 AM PDT by Dane
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To: FilmCutter; labowski; LibertyGrrrl; marktuoni; itsamelman; Sam's Army; RepoGirl; Redcoat LI; ...

please let me know if you want to be added to or removed from the ping list

15 posted on 05/26/2004 8:48:24 AM PDT by bc2 ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" - harpseal)
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To: FilmCutter
Off the top of my head, here are a small number of incredible current artists you cannot find on the radio or a major label…
British Sea Power
Broadcast
The Decemberists
Ester Drang
Fine China
Four Tet
Grandaddy
Lali Puna
M83
Mum
Pedro the Lion
Pinback
The Polyphonic Spree
Sigur Ros
Starflyer 59
Sun Kil Moon
The Wrens

The RIAA is attempting to destroy music, but they will end up only destroying themselves.

17 posted on 05/26/2004 8:51:54 AM PDT by inkling
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To: beelzepug
I think I'd credit Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone" (1965) with breaking this rule. It ran out to around 6 1/2 minutes, as I recall

Did that go to #1 as a single?

IIRC, "Hey Jude" was the first song more than 3 or 4 minutes to go #1.

Not to quibble, I beleive that "Hey Jude" was the first song exclusively released as a single that was more than 4 minutes long to go to #1.

18 posted on 05/26/2004 8:52:17 AM PDT by Dane
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To: God luvs America

On the old show "Politically Incorrect" that one of the major rappers ( I think it was Ice Cube ) said about today's music, "In ten years I don't think my wife and I will hear these tunes and turn to each other and say, hey. They're playing our song." This is from a man whose career is making money from modern rap.


19 posted on 05/26/2004 8:52:40 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: BipolarBob

Bob is right, RIAA lawsuit is one of the leading causes of music industries death. The fight for intellectual properties and the eventual sharing of music files should have been at least acknowledged in the article.


20 posted on 05/26/2004 8:52:48 AM PDT by in2itagin (THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME)
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To: FilmCutter

Culture has declined
Clay Aiken is a pop star
The music has died.


21 posted on 05/26/2004 8:53:24 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Dane
"Oh yeah the music has to be good also.">

Well, you might be setting the bar a little too high there, especially for anyone calling themselves rap "artists."

22 posted on 05/26/2004 8:54:29 AM PDT by Redbob (still hoping for the "self-illuminating glass-bottomed parking lot" solution to the Iraq problem)
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To: FilmCutter
If the entire music industry has to be killed by teenage pirates in order that their porn-music be killed, so be it.

Then there's the additional benefit of poetic justice.

23 posted on 05/26/2004 8:56:28 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Dane
"Hey Jude" broke the 3 minute rule for hit singles and after that concept albums ascended with the zenith being "Dark Side of the Moon" in 73.

You must not be familiar with "Inagadadavida" and the Doors' "Light My Fire", both of which were popular around 1967 or so.

24 posted on 05/26/2004 8:57:57 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: dead

Agreed. It's why I never listen to the radio anymore (for music, anyway). There is actually some very original, very innovative stuff out there right now. Of course, I've never listened much to the mainstream rock music, no matter the era.

Though I can guarantee you they're not for everyone, "The Horrorpops" out of SoCal are one dynamic, brash, and FUN band to listen to. (And, NO, I am not associated with the band in any way.)


25 posted on 05/26/2004 8:59:03 AM PDT by NCPAC
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To: FilmCutter
“This is the story of how the pressures to perform financially have affected the ability of many pop musicians to make the art they want,”

What he really means is this: "“This is the story of how the pressures to perform financially have affected the ability of many pop musicians to get rich and famous making the art they want”.

You can make any kind of music you want, Mr. Hudson. You want wealth and fame? Then dance for the money men.

26 posted on 05/26/2004 8:59:05 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: theDentist

I'll vote for artistic draught.

Bought two albums so far this year that I'd give a big 'ol thumbs up to. Evanescence (Fallen) and Pat Benatar (Go!).

Just about worn out the Evanescence. Love Amy Lee's voice. Though she do seem a might depressed in just about every song... oh well.

And you can't really trust my judgement with Pat Benatar. I just love her voice, too. She could sing the phone book and I'd probably buy it.

Other 'n that, I've pretty much been hitting the iTunes sight. One at a time, as I like 'em. Why, they even have Lita Ford up there.


27 posted on 05/26/2004 8:59:42 AM PDT by Mr. Thorne ("But iron, cold iron, shall be master of them all..." Kipling)
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To: KarlInOhio
That's too bad.

Let's also pause a moment and mourn the fact that the largest radio market in the nation (New York) doesn't have a single country music station anywhere on the dial.

Up here, the selection has gotten quite limited. It's just KRAP 102.7, CRAP 95.5, etc., etc.

28 posted on 05/26/2004 9:00:20 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: ActionNewsBill

I know it's not the longest, but the live cut of "Blue Sky" on one of the Allman Brothers' CDs in the last few years was something like 20 minutes long. And it's a great 20 minutes, too!


29 posted on 05/26/2004 9:03:03 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: Rebelbase; Dane; dead

I'm buying these guys' album!

http://www.bravewords.com/news.html?id=14029

***Warning: PROFANITY****

And I like Maroon5.


30 posted on 05/26/2004 9:03:03 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: inkling

Here's some more bands for your list, everything from heavy metal to folk-type music.

Superdrag
Ednaswap
Drunk Horse
UNIDA
Engine Down
Beulah
The Hellacopters
The Hydromatics
Uncle Tupelo / Son Volt / Wilco
Supersuckers
Guided By Voices

Check out

Arena Rock Recording Artists http://www.arenarockrecordingco.com/

Tee Pee Records
http://www.teepeerecords.com/

All That's Heavy / Stoner Rock dot com
http://stonerrock.com

XM Satalite Radio - over 100 commercial free satalite radio stations.

http://www.xmradio.com

I suggest all music fans subscribe! They have units for home, car, and even stereos that do both! Not slaves to the corporate music company whores!


31 posted on 05/26/2004 9:03:43 AM PDT by bc2 ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" - harpseal)
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To: FilmCutter
It's true. There are tons of independent, worthy bands that you have to seek out, rather than have the industry spoon feed you.

Do industry people think that 'post-Woodstock moment of empowerment' or whatever is frozen in time?

32 posted on 05/26/2004 9:04:10 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Mr. Thorne

Yeah, most of the CDs I've purchased this year are to replace the ones stolen from my car over Christmas. The only "new" one I hadn't had was Bob Seager's Best OF, Volume 2.


33 posted on 05/26/2004 9:04:37 AM PDT by theDentist (John Kerry never saw a TAX he wouldn't HIKE !!!)
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To: Dane
This is just my opinion, but a band that would put out a CD in a LP sized cardboard cover(wrap the CD in plastic and a paper sleeve) with some good artwork and liner notes, could get themselves noticed.

Man.... I like that idea. We're about to turn out a contemporary christian CD. That's a great idea for marketing I think!

34 posted on 05/26/2004 9:04:51 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: God luvs America
many black hip-hop artists are the last bastions where the music is written from the heart (or streets as it may)

Streets are for cars. Periods. These morons and their dim followers can't even figure that much out.

Utter dreck.

35 posted on 05/26/2004 9:05:05 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Is Fallujah gone yet?)
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To: ActionNewsBill
You must not be familiar with "Inagadadavida" and the Doors' "Light My Fire", both of which were popular around 1967 or so.

I was talking about the singles market. Rememeber those days where someone would go into the record store and buy a single with "A" side and a "B" side.

IIRC, "Hey Jude" was the first single over 4 minutes to go to #1.

Again IIRC, "Light my Fire" and "Inagadddavida" were both truncated for their single releases.

BTW, the best "B" side song ever was Led Zeppelin's "Your Time is Gonna Come". I can't remember the "A" side of that single. I think it was "Immigrant's Song".

36 posted on 05/26/2004 9:05:13 AM PDT by Dane
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To: FilmCutter
Gee, the music industry was always such a pure endeavor in the olden days. Just ask Little Richard. Or anyone else that signed a lousy contract or had their royalties stolen.

A society based on art for art's sake becomes a society of dreck. If you bow down to Beethoven, your children will bow down to Eminem.

Richard Brookhiser

37 posted on 05/26/2004 9:05:56 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: inkling

would you like me to add you to the rock n roll ping list?


38 posted on 05/26/2004 9:06:11 AM PDT by bc2 ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" - harpseal)
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To: Buckhead

huge XM Radio bump!


39 posted on 05/26/2004 9:06:53 AM PDT by bc2 ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" - harpseal)
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To: Alberta's Child

I have 200 + CDs. Have not bought one in a couple of years, tho.


40 posted on 05/26/2004 9:06:56 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (STAGMIRE !)
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To: Dane
Not to quibble, I beleive that "Hey Jude" was the first song exclusively released as a single that was more than 4 minutes long to go to #1.

CASH BOX TOP 100 SINGLES Week ending August 5, 1967

41 posted on 05/26/2004 9:08:24 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: Dane
BTW, the best "B" side song ever was Led Zeppelin's "Your Time is Gonna Come".

I SAW HER STANDING THERE.... was a pretty good "B" side.

42 posted on 05/26/2004 9:08:36 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: FilmCutter

I'm sure they will find a way to blame this on Bush


43 posted on 05/26/2004 9:08:53 AM PDT by UB355
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To: Buckhead
There's no doubt in my mind that the single greatest moment in the history of popular music on the radio (and the moment that started the decline, too) was the release of Boston's first album in 1976.

Many of the songs are vintage rock classics, though this was the first of what became known as "over-mixed" rock music.

It was the single greatest moment in the history of popular music because it was tailor-made for a radio audience.

It marked the beginning of the decline of popular music because the obsessive band members of Boston spent five freakin' years perfecting that album before releasing it -- and there was no way in hell any record company would sign a band engaged in that kind of search for perfection.

44 posted on 05/26/2004 9:10:53 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: FilmCutter

Contemporary Christian music is said to be the one vital area of the music industry left. I listen to a local Christian pop station, WJIE (Louisville, KY). It's often the same injection-molded commercial pop, but it has a much more positive and pleasant sound than ordinary secular pop. And late on Saturday evening, they play Christian hard rock and punk, including local bands, that's a lot more fun.


45 posted on 05/26/2004 9:11:03 AM PDT by megatherium
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To: Dane
Again IIRC, "Light my Fire" and "Inagadddavida" were both truncated for their single releases.

Not to quibble, but the long version of "Light my Fire" was played as a single on AM stations back in the day. Sometimes the short version was aired, but some of my memories of that year (my first girlfriend) included the long version of LMF.

You are right, however, about "Inagadadavida"

46 posted on 05/26/2004 9:14:10 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: FilmCutter

I think that the main problem is the industry's failure to promote good music. It starts with all the radio stations being owned by conglomerates who play the same thing on every station. There is good music out there that isn't being played. There's bad music out there that isn't being played too.... but most radio markets have very little to choose from musically. You've got classic rock (which is a nice way of saying 25 to 30 year old songs), new pissed off rock, and hip hop, and Britney wannabes. And it seems if your music doesn't fit nicely in one of those catagories you won't get air time.


47 posted on 05/26/2004 9:14:32 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: bc2

Please add me to the ping list -- thanks! Thanks also for the list of bands; I love Beulah.


48 posted on 05/26/2004 9:17:03 AM PDT by inkling
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To: megatherium
Contemporary Christian music is said to be the one vital area of the music industry left. I listen to a local Christian pop station, WJIE (Louisville, KY). It's often the same injection-molded commercial pop, but it has a much more positive and pleasant sound than ordinary secular pop. And late on Saturday evening, they play Christian hard rock and punk, including local bands, that's a lot more fun.

I listen to a lot of Contemporary Christian, and I perform it. It's got talent and good songs... but I hate most of the mixes. Whoever is producing all that stuff just over compresses everything so that it just becomes one level of noise with little dynamics. That's just my opinion as an artist though.

49 posted on 05/26/2004 9:17:05 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: bc2
Eddie Spaghetti bump!

Let me add a few links to the list.

www.bloodshotrecords.com
www.checkeredpast.com
www.hightone.com
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