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Has the Iraq War Been Successfully ''Vietnamized'' by Media and the Left?
Chron Watch ^ | 26 May 2004 | Chris Long

Posted on 05/26/2004 8:18:48 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln

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I am just so incredibly pi$$ed at the liberal/left group think. At times, it even depresses me. I just pray that America is smart enough, brave enough and bold enough to repudiate this propoganda in November. If GWB can win big and congress becomes even more of a majority towards Republican, at least some measure of this crap will be quelled.

Lando

1 posted on 05/26/2004 8:18:49 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Lando Lincoln

This Country is so divided right now, lord knows what November will bring.

The only thing I can say is VOTE.


2 posted on 05/26/2004 8:20:50 AM PDT by funkywbr
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To: Lando Lincoln
Has the Iraq War Been Successfully ''Vietnamized'' by Media and the Left?

Short Answer: Yes.

3 posted on 05/26/2004 8:22:23 AM PDT by Old Sarge (It's not Bush's fault - It's THE MEDIA'S fault!)
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To: Old Sarge
Has the Iraq War Been Successfully ''Vietnamized'' by Media and the Left?

IMHO: NO, but they're trying awfully hard.

4 posted on 05/26/2004 8:24:07 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Kerry is a major dork))
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To: Lando Lincoln

"Media and the Left?"

Re-Dundant............


5 posted on 05/26/2004 8:28:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Hillary has a Coke bottle figure....................................... 3 Liter.....................)
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To: Lando Lincoln

I told my daughter that the liberals were trying this
Vietnam "message" crap months ago. She said I was nuts. But I plan to e-mail her this article. Thanks for posting it.

However, many people like myself have regretted how the Vietnam soldiers were treated because of politics and the media. I vowed never to let it happen again and I'm sure others of my age regret it also. I was never anti-war but I was not pro-America and patriotic as I should have been.

John Kerry will NEVER become President because of his affiliation of the Vietnam Vets Against the War. When 100,000 march in Washington DC on September 12, the world will be sent a message...support our troops.


6 posted on 05/26/2004 8:35:30 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Lando Lincoln


Indeed, the relentless flaying, flailing, and foaming of Leftist Press against the President, against the War on Terror, and IN FAVOR of SWORN ENEMIES of the United States, is having the effect they so desire.

The leaping, jumping, flaming morons are apparently oblivious to the fact that they will be among the first to be lined up in front of a belt-fed machine gun with a yawning mass grave behind them, when their multi-culti proctected Muslim buddies institute Sharia Law.

They add a new dimension to the expression, "Useful Idiots".


7 posted on 05/26/2004 8:50:28 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: BushisTheMan

"John Kerry will NEVER become President because of his affiliation of the Vietnam Vets Against the War. When 100,000 march in Washington DC on September 12, the world will be sent a message...support our troops."

And that scares me. If it is not Kerry, then who? The Leftwing Vietnam era pols are giving it one last crack before they give up their seats to a growing conservative base. They know that they must hand a Whitehouse to a liberal in order to keep the party alive.

The 2004 election is the Lefts Alamo.


8 posted on 05/26/2004 8:51:59 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Only difference between the liberals and the Nazis is that the liberals love the Communists.)
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To: BushisTheMan

"John Kerry will NEVER become President because of his affiliation of the Vietnam Vets Against the War. When 100,000 march in Washington DC on September 12, the world will be sent a message...support our troops."

And that scares me. If it is not Kerry, then who? The Leftwing Vietnam era pols are giving it one last crack before they give up their seats to a growing conservative base. They know that they must hand a Whitehouse to a liberal in order to keep the party alive.

The 2004 election is the Lefts Alamo.


9 posted on 05/26/2004 8:52:04 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Only difference between the liberals and the Nazis is that the liberals love the Communists.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

"There is no doubt we are witnessing an awesome display of propaganda power from the left."

If there's one thing the Bush administration can really be blamed for, it's not predicting and being prepared for the bile from the media.


10 posted on 05/26/2004 9:08:33 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: funkywbr
This Country is so divided right now, lord knows what November will bring.

Our first real civil war?

11 posted on 05/26/2004 9:13:01 AM PDT by bankwalker (Washington needs an enema.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Hopefully by September 12, Kerry will have accepted his party's nomination. But that might be when he accepts it before he rejects it.

November 2, Kerry will lose.



12 posted on 05/26/2004 9:37:22 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: bankwalker

Maybe!

Florida law says Felons must be removed from the voting registers. That be 48,000 people today. The Dems are now fighting for those votes to be cast and counted down in Florida TODAY.


13 posted on 05/26/2004 9:43:45 AM PDT by funkywbr
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To: nosofar

"If there's one thing the Bush administration can really be blamed for, it's not predicting and being prepared for the bile from the media."

First off, how do you know they didn't predict it? Considering that Bush showed off a copy of Bernard Goldberg's "Bias" to the media as they photographed him well over a year ago, I think he made his point quite well there.

Secondly, assuming it is predicted, how exactly do you propose someone can be "prepared" for it?

IMO, he knew it was coming, and he -was- prepared. That's why he didn't try to ride the Salman Pak story, to the chagrin of so many conservatives who believe that it was evidence of Iraqi participation in 9/11 or at least cooperation with Al Qaeda (as I do). Bush could've rested his case on that, or several other things, but the fact is, they were not CONCLUSIVE evidence. The Left, through their infernal propaganda tactics, has raised the bar of "evidence" to the point of insanity. "Preponderance of evidence" is no longer sufficient. Even multiple data points is no longer sufficient. The only acceptable evidence is the "smoking gun" now - where a SINGLE data point, a SINGLE piece of evidence, must be, by itself, so overwhelming that it proves the case all by itself.

Suffice it to say, any criminal who was ever convicted on a single data point, no matter how damning, would have a hell of a grounds for appeal. There's a reason "preponderance of the evidence" matters in a court of law. But it doesn't matter to the media. How exactly was Bush supposed to "prepare" for that?

It's impossible. The media propaganda war is so monolithic that it is itself impervious, because it acts as a filter through which anything Bush could say (including about -them-) gets diluted, deconstructed, misrepresented.

There's only one thing that Bush -can- do... hope the people see through it, and thanks to the growth of the conservative media these last few years, there is at last enough information available for people to see through it. But the media will never just -give- it to anyone- it has to be hunted for.

The only way to combat the media monopoly is to hunt down the evidence that the media is lying, and -insist-, on a personal level, to the ignorants who just sup what the media tells them that they must look at it. Grassroots is the only effective solution. Government cannot be the answer. Censoring the media propaganda would be counter-productive.

No, it's not up to Bush to counter the media monolith. The guy's got his plate full anyway. It's up to us.

Qwinn


14 posted on 05/26/2004 9:50:18 AM PDT by Qwinn
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To: Lando Lincoln

The optimism in many comments above is refreshing, but in my dark moments, I see a frightening scenario unfolding. Kerry wins, Al Qaida jumps for joy and pumps nerve gas into America's subways. And to add despair to tragedy, I see the media drowning the public in editorials that blame Bush, Republicans in Congress and the GOP in general for every disastorous failure of a Kerry presidency, and the American people silently nodding in agreement. Please let me be wrong.


15 posted on 05/26/2004 9:51:30 AM PDT by Spok
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To: bankwalker
Our first real civil war?

You mean a hot civil war, because we're already in a cold civil war.

16 posted on 05/26/2004 9:51:56 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Only for the weakminded.


17 posted on 05/26/2004 9:52:55 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: funkywbr

I am in my 50s, and I have never seen America this polarized. Something is bound to snap.


18 posted on 05/26/2004 10:02:56 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Spok

"Please let me be wrong."

Sadly, and sickeningly, you are not wrong.


19 posted on 05/26/2004 10:07:45 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: ought-six

The only thing that is gonna snap is the waistbands on the fat arse lazy complaining Democrats.


20 posted on 05/26/2004 10:25:22 AM PDT by funkywbr
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