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A message for the prez - Sen. Chuck Hagel has some unvarnished advice for George W. Bush
U.S. News ^ | 5/22/04

Posted on 05/22/2004 4:57:58 PM PDT by areafiftyone

Battered by the bad news out of Iraq, President George W. Bush decided it was time to stiffen the spines of some anxious Republicans on Capitol Hill last week. So he went to the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue and held an hourlong pep rally in a basement conference room at the Capitol. Many of the 200 House and Senate Republicans in attendance emerged to say they were reassured. Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander called it "choir practice." But not for Chuck Hagel.

The 57-year-old Republican senator from Nebraska said the appearance by the president left more than a little to be desired. Bush "talked for an hour and did not take a single question," says Hagel. "He didn't listen, and I think this president needs to listen more. If he had taken questions he would have heard some things that might have been helpful."

The comments were vintage Hagel--calmly stated but brutally frank and increasingly troubling to an unsteady White House. Fellow Vietnam War veteran John McCain has long been the chief maverick among Senate Republicans, but it is Hagel, with his lower profile and sober demeanor, who may now be emerging as a more potent symbol of the angst that congressional Republicans are feeling over the direction of the war in Iraq--and its political consequences.

There's little doubt that Hagel has earned the right to speak up. A child of the Sand Hills of western Nebraska, he was working as a radio disc jockey when--along with his younger brother Tom--he volunteered for service in Vietnam. The brothers ended up in the same Army unit, and in March 1968, their armored personnel carrier rolled over a mine and went up in flames. Hagel, his face and chest on fire, dragged what he thought was his brother's lifeless body from the vehicle. Both survived, however, and spent months recovering in hospital beds next to each other. Chuck Hagel later became a successful businessman and moved into GOP politics.

"He is one of the few people [here] who actually fought in a war. I listen to him differently because of that," says Rhode Island Sen. Lincoln Chafee. Hagel also speaks from a powerful perch as the second-ranking Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. There have been 19 Foreign Relations Committee hearings on Iraq in 17 months, and Hagel has used that platform to tell the president that, had he heeded some different voices before the invasion of Iraq, he would not be in the current mess.

Hagel, who also sits on the Intelligence Committee, says that Bush "may be more isolated than any president in recent memory" and therefore susceptible to faulty advice. Much of that advice, Hagel says, has come from Vice President Dick Cheney, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and former Pentagon official Richard Perle. But the problem, in Hagel's view, was compounded by the president's lack of foreign-policy experience.

"I think you've got a president who is not schooled, educated, experienced in foreign policy in any way, versus his father," Hagel says. "I think he was philosophically, intellectually more in tune with the neoconservatives'approach to 'let's go get them, and we'll worry about it later.' "

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KEYWORDS: chuckhagel; hagel; homosexualagenda; nebraska; newyork
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I did a search and did not find this posted. It's a very long article so I excerpted it.
1 posted on 05/22/2004 4:58:00 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

Hagel seems to have crossed lines with the DNC's talking points FAX machine.


2 posted on 05/22/2004 5:00:39 PM PDT by backhoe (--30--)
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To: backhoe

He must be hanging out with Vampira(Pelosi)


3 posted on 05/22/2004 5:02:59 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone

Just what IS Chuck Hagel's problem??? I am so sick of these whining, demanding, pathetic republican windbags. His story is not nearly as important as he thinks it is. Just a sad spectacle.


4 posted on 05/22/2004 5:06:58 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: areafiftyone
He must be hanging out with Vampira(Pelosi)

Oh, God! What a ghastly, yet accurate, image. I'll have bad dreams all night!

5 posted on 05/22/2004 5:07:28 PM PDT by backhoe (--30--)
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To: areafiftyone
"He didn't listen, and I think this president needs to listen more. If he had taken questions he would have heard some things that might have been helpful."

Ha ha ha. Like what? These Republican congressmen are running the most powerful legislative body in the world. They can call a press conference and speak to the media and get out their advice every day of the week. Can anyone recall any words of wisdom lately coming from any of these Republican congressmen that President Bush needs to listen and take notes about in order to conduct the war on terror? the problem is these congressmen have no balls. Instead of sniping about the leader behind his back they should grow a pair and do their job which is reduce taxes, cut spending and slap the dems around.

6 posted on 05/22/2004 5:08:12 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: areafiftyone

I turn the channel or hit the mute button when Hagel is on.

He's a legend in his own mind and a joke in mine.


7 posted on 05/22/2004 5:10:06 PM PDT by jwfiv
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Since McCain has said "definetly not", maybe Chuckie is bucking to be Kerry's running mate. Hmmmmmmm.


8 posted on 05/22/2004 5:10:22 PM PDT by no dems (Does the Bush/Cheney camp monitor the Freep website?)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

You know you are "over" as a Republican when the likes of Lincoln Chafee start singing your praises.....Hagel has crossed over to the dark side.


9 posted on 05/22/2004 5:11:16 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: backhoe
Oh, God! What a ghastly, yet accurate, image(Pelosi, vampira). I'll have bad dreams all night!

I have no doubt that if you were to put a Cross to her face she would hiss, and violently turn away.

10 posted on 05/22/2004 5:11:26 PM PDT by Dane
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To: small voice in the wilderness

The only way a Republican can get noticed by the media today is to bash President Bush.


11 posted on 05/22/2004 5:12:39 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: jwfiv

I do the same...saves on the need for Pepcid .


12 posted on 05/22/2004 5:13:21 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MamaLucci
You know you are "over" as a Republican when the likes of Lincoln Chafee start singing your praises.....Hagel has crossed over to the dark side

Yep. Hagel has followed McCain and has become another Monica for Russert and Co. in the liberal media.

13 posted on 05/22/2004 5:14:16 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
"I think you've got a president who is not schooled, educated, experienced in foreign policy in any way, versus his father," Hagel says. "I think he was philosophically, intellectually more in tune with the neoconservatives'approach to 'let's go get them, and we'll worry about it later.' "

If anyone talked about me the way that Hagel talks about the President, he would be the last person I would turn to for advise. What a fool. As for this military experience crap, our most successful war president was a man who had only a few months experience as a militia man.

14 posted on 05/22/2004 5:23:56 PM PDT by RobbyS
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I think helen thomas runs a Rhino senate class on the side. Just like her, Hagel attacks Bush relentlessly then gets his panties in a bunch when Bush ignores him. He really does need to STFU and do his job as a Nebraska Senator and let President Bush do HIS job.


15 posted on 05/22/2004 5:29:07 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

I am living in Nebraska and I even voted for Hagel.......and he has emerged as a McCain wannabe. This guy has bigger things in mind for himself and has no understanding that real republicans do the right thing..........especially in war time.


16 posted on 05/22/2004 5:36:20 PM PDT by Oldsailor
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To: backhoe
Hagel seems to have crossed lines with the DNC's talking points FAX machine.

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Must have. It makes me sick that the DemocRATS are so impatient with the Iraq progress, but I can understand that they have to do everything including lie to get their power back. But when Republicans bash Bush, it makes me doubly angry because they'll get even more press than the RATS and it does even more damage than the RATS bashing. They seem to think you can fight a war and solve the worlds problems within an hour or two, including commercials, like on TV. Hegel of all people should know this.

Don't they know the plan is to return sovereignty to the Iraqis at the end of NEXT MONTH. Isn't that in and of itself an "exit strategy," the "date certain" they all claim to want.

They're all speaking out of both ends of their digestive tracks.
17 posted on 05/22/2004 5:36:34 PM PDT by gooleyman ((You'll NEVER agree with ANYONE about EVERYTHING. You'll NEVER agree with a DemocRAT about ANYTHING))
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To: small voice in the wilderness
Just what IS Chuck Hagel's problem???

Don't you know? Republicans have a problem from the moment they become Republicans: they eat their own. They don't know how to do battle with the opposition (dems), but they most certainly know how to destroy their own and they have become quite good at it.

Think I'm kidding? They let the dems drive out Trent Lott as Senate leader and now, under the inept leadership of Bill Frist, they could not stop the filibustering of dems against judicial nominations so Bush has to cut a deal with them to get a few lower level judges appointed.

There's nothing wrong with the Republican party that a pair of cojones wouldn't cure!

18 posted on 05/22/2004 5:37:56 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: backhoe

Calm down...think Clinton (Bill)...an have wet dreams all night long!


19 posted on 05/22/2004 5:39:20 PM PDT by Hotdog
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To: lancer

I know. I know. I just keep waiting for them to see the light. The only light they see is the little red light on the cameras.


20 posted on 05/22/2004 5:44:00 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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