Posted on 05/16/2004 8:27:19 PM PDT by milford421
The City Council of Hamtramck, Michigan approved an amendment to the city's noise ordinance to allow the Muslim call to prayer over loudspeakers 5 times daily, from 6 a.m. - 10 p.m. The new ordinance takes effect May 26. Nonie Darwish writes the following:
The Islamist movement in the United States has no intention of expressing sensitivity to the majority Judeo-Christian culture of America. Even 9/11 has not slowed them down, but might even have given more fuel to their cherished dream of seeing America and its government Moslem. The City Council of Hamtramck, Michigan, gave its preliminary approval to the Bangladeshi al-Islah mosque to carry the Arabic call to prayer five times a day through a loudspeaker. The Moslem call for prayer, in Arabic, says: “Allah is great. I confess that there is no God but Allah. I confess that Mohamed is his messenger. Call for prayer, call for prayer.” This is repeated for two minutes.
Devout Moslems already know when it is time to pray and in this day and age there are certainly other ways to call people for prayers that conforms to noise regulation and respects the wish of the general public not to hear loudspeakers 5 times a day praising a God that is different from theirs and in whose name the terrorists of 9/11 committed their atrocity. How far are we Arab/Moslem Americans going to keep pushing the envelope to test America’s patience? To whose benefit these loudspeakers are being installed? Could the loudspeakers be another sign of an audacious, in-your-face conquest of America to please those who finance these mosques?
Americans are the most tolerant people in the world and it seems that the more tolerant they become, the more they are taken advantage of. How far will our tolerant Judeo-Christian culture be pushed around? And how many times will Christians give the other cheek to prove they love those who despise them?
Arab/Moslem Americans should reciprocate the tolerance and sensitivity to the rest of America. They should not demand from America to tolerate unwelcome loudspeakers even if the politicians in the city council want to please the Arab population for their vote. Mosques in the US should know better because in most Moslem countries, Jewish synagogues and Christian churches are not even permitted to be built, much less promoted via public-address loudspeakers.
At a time when American youth are dying to stabilize Iraq and bring democracy to a Moslem country, the last thing I want to see as an Arab American is my fellow Americans upset at us for forcing Koran read to them through amplifiers.
Mosques all over the Middle East have used and abused loudspeakers to spread not only the call for prayers, but also Friday sermons. In many Arab capitals you can often hear a prayer to destroy the infidels (non-Moslems) and the Jews, the enemies of God, over loudspeakers that are often used as tools of incitement and indoctrination. People in congested and noisy Arab cities such as Cairo often hear 3 or 4 mosque loudspeakers simultaneously since there could be 4 or more mosques in one square mile. The dawn prayer can come as early as 5 am and many Moslems in the Middle East hate it, but are too afraid to say anything about it.
Why is America importing fear, oppression and insensitivity to the American general public? There is a fine line between tolerance and self destruction."
White (among others) flight Part II?
I'd have my house up for sale if I was anywhere in earshot of this thing - hell I'd just burn my house and collect the insurance money to get the hell out of there.
Could you link to the article?
Taking down the Ten Commandments around the country, and replacing them with calls to Allah.
I would not want Jesus Christ himself voicing himself on a loudspeaker five times a day in my neighborhood. This thing is ludicrous. It is a form of environmental pollution, and an imposition.
Our state of Michigan crumbles first in the face of Islam.
I live in a neighborhood with a large Muslim population. No loudspeakers here. The Muezzin just stands out on the avenue in front of the Mosque (a former movie theatre) and does his wailing.
I am completely computer illiterate. Please go to www.jihadwatch.com and go to archives. Type in muslim call to prayers and you'll retrieve not only this article, but others as well.
Well New Yawkers are used to loud people, who talk a lot. :) But it is the loudspeaker thing that gets my goat. It bring back memories for me of Hiyakawa, who ripped out the wires of a loudspeaker in San Francisco, and earned himself a Senate seat doing it.
Conquests of other states soon to follow.
Seems the residents in the predominantly muslim neighborhood are low-income Polish Christians. They could use some help...they have decided to try and fight.
If they want to start some trouble, this is the way! Are their non-Muslim fellow citizens going to listen to that loudspeaker 5 times a day, reminding them each time the almost absolute silence of their Muslim neighbors without taking swift, if illegal action?
I think it is time for all right minded citizens of this country to descend on that town and let America know what's going on. To me, this is the biggest National story of the year. I don't know how you all feel, but that's how I feel.
SA Hayakawa was one of the two greatest college presidents of that era. I think us former Chicago Maroons know who the other one was.
Correct. However, in December 2000, Denver International Airport was forced to discontinue its practice of announcing the Catholic Mass schedule over the public address system. The ACLU backed the ban citing Church/State. They have not backed the Polish residents on this one.
LOL - okay, thanks.
Senior citizens mostly.
Hmmm .. I wonder what a .308 aka 7.62mm round can do to a islamic speaker horn?
They do indeed...Here in New York, muslim children had a "room" set aside for them during Ramadan. Of course, it was a prayer room.
This cult--Islam--must be defeated.
they have a church, right? the noise ordinance has been changed, why can't the church ring its bells every day at the same time as the call to prayer?
He put that corpulent lush Daniel Patrick Moynihan and that skeletal, ossified, racist from West Virginia to shame.
If only California had a few more statesmen like him today.
And what will stop them from doing that here?
Yeah, That's it! Run from the fight.
I did that, and there is no such article. Are you sure you didn't make this up?
what fight? they caved, its over.
The U.P. is still standing.
It will take some time for the decay to reach up here.
The point isn't noise pollution, however; the larger issue here is the constitutionally guaranteed separation of church and state which is being broached here. Announcing prayers over the loudspeaker in a public municpality is an even greater violation of this principle than leading prayer at sports games, or in the schools.
Great idea...all the churches could ring at once.
It ain't over till the fat muslim sings
Why didn't we hear Islamic condemnation of the 9/11 attacks at the same volume they want to use for their call to prayers? Do these same people think that the murder of 3000 innocent Americans were not wrong in the eyes of God?
This is a few weeks old and no he didnt make it up. Ive mentioned it several times in the last couple of weeks because of the Berg murder.
The muslims in Hamtramck have been very vocal in getting their call to prayer, but silent in their oposition of terrorism.
heres one.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117705,00.html
google "hamtramck mi/ call to prayer
There are noise ordinances that prohibit things like early morning or late night noise (construction, mowing, etc.). Hearing an amplified public broadcast of prayers at 6am or 10pm are likely to wake at least some people up.
Thanks. I hope you understand, this is one of those things that's hard to believe. I've seen so many hard-to-believe things turn out to be true, but I still like to check things out before I assume anything.
When can we expect your prized ACLU to silence this prayer in the public air as they impounded the momument that included the 10 Commandments?
Old Mad Mo was much smarter than Hitler. If Hitler had only declared Nazism to be a religion, he could have financed "Nazi Temples" across the USA in the 1930s. They would have been free to broadcast the "Nazi call to prayer" and the "sermons of Ayatollah Hitler" over loudspeakers.
Are we Americans chumps, or what???
Well is anyone DOING anything about this??? I have just come off a 2 hour discussion of related issues. I will admit I work very hard, through letters to newspaper editors , phone calls, etc, and I feel I am carrying the ball for 1,000 people who sit back and say/do nothing. I am frustrated by this...
Our government was doing right even if some agents of our government were doing wrong. America takes the hit and must try to make it clear that we did not condone the actions.
Muslims lead a battle of Islamfascist brutality and other muslims say, "that's not a reflection of my faith".
The double standard (and the media's compliance in it) is sickening.
Then, the muslims will buy up these nearly abandoned properties for pennies on the dollar, and resell them on easy terms to new muslim immigrants.
Lots and lots of new muslim immigrants.
I'll bet that the Imam would say that while you are "up", maybe you should consider joining the muslims in their prayers.
If the broadcasts are not in English, who would understand the call to arms?
The true leftist take on Japan in WWII is that (like 9/11) we were attacked at Pearl Harbor because of Western Imperialism. We "deserved" it.
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