There was no letter in the Florida attack. That was cross contamination from the 9/11 terrorist paying his rent to his landlord, the wife of the owner of the AMI building where the reporter died and the janitor got infected.
Posted on 05/16/2004 7:53:37 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
Edited on 07/06/2004 6:39:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
HAGERSTOWN, Md. (AP) — The FBI, revisiting an old lead in the anthrax investigation, recently interviewed a former Fort Detrick researcher and his co-workers about his whereabouts when the letters were mailed, he and his lawyer said Sunday.
Ayaad Assaad, who now works for the federal Environmental Protection Agency, said the agents also quizzed him Tuesday about his knowledge of producing finely powdered anthrax like that used in the letters.
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Am I the only one who didn't know that the suspect connected to Ft Detrick was an Egyptian born man namned Assaad??
I was under the impression that we were dealing with home grown right wing white supremacist nuts.
The things one learn on this site!
I live on Detrick and didn't know they were talking to an Egyptian now...I know they were talking to Hatfill before, but this is a pretty important development I think.
Plutarch...stop messing with us...jokin' right?
There was a thread here a couple weeks ago about (Iraq?) having several people quarantined with what looked like anthrax; there was children among them.
Did any of you see that? I have no heard anything since.
Iraq anthrax? thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134467/posts
Iraq anthrax? thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134467/posts
Yup. That's the one. It struck me odd that I had not heard anything beyond that thread, then this thread comes along.
No...ya gotta be kidding me...no...Foster again? The FBI takes this crank seriously? No, it can't be...fears that those we expect to care for us don't are coming true...unbelievable...
I mean this is a joke, right?
--He said he also discussed with them his theory of how one could make the type of anthrax used in the attacks by forcing steam from a hot, liquid mixture through a nozzle and collecting dried residue from the condensation. --
I find it somewhat hard to believe this guy never worked with anthrax. I guess he only THOUGHT about working with anthrax.
Hey, I am going away for a couple of weeks and won't be able to follow FR.
Don't leave me hanging - was that a joke or not????
Thanks for the ping!
Don't leave me hanging - was that a joke or not????
Just a joke guys. But why does it sound so plausible?
'Cause of your mastery of the English language and the weirdness of the Nick Berg story...what do you think is with him anyways? Do you believe this lone ranger plotline?
Witness this logic (using arguments of the left):
We have searched Iraq for WMDs and have not shown sufficient evidence to give enough credence to silence those in the pro-Saddam/anti-war movements.
Here in the US, there have not been the restrictions on inspectors looking where they want for a biological weapon but they still have not determined any US origin.
Ergo, there was no anthrax (just as there is no Osama bin Laden, if there was we should have found him by now).
Have the contents of the fourth contaminated letter ever been released? Was it a photocopy of the previous letters or something different?
I still think it was Hatfill.
Well, as I posted on 5/12, before we knew that Nick's email password just happened to have been used by 9/11 terrorists:
There are several unusual aspects to this case. The first is the vague and implausible rationale for a Jewish Nick Berg to be risking his neck in Iraq; the second that Nick Berg's father just happens to be a far out leftist; the third that he was arrested and detained by Iraqi authorities, and investigated by the FBI.
According to Occam's Razor, one should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.
The one entity that explains everything is that Nick Berg was in Iraq to further a leftist cause. Any other explanation requires a multiplicity of unusual coincidences.
The password leak to the hijackers seals it. If that is a coincidence it is one in 100 million. The odds are a lot better than 0.000000001 that Nick and Pa were ANSWERing the call together, Pa overtly and Nick covertly.
hmmm....you think so? The media spin is he was a Bush supporter...the first thing that came to my mind was he was Mossad.
[This was the questionable report of possible anthrax deaths in Mosul.]
That report had already been discredited back on April 1, 2004. See http://www.promedmail.org, Archive number 20040401.0884.
The claim should never have appeared in a news article dated May 11, 2004.
Oh, Ok. Thanks for the info.
I was thinking C.I.A.
If he got that close to Moussaoui, it would seem he's been under for quite a while.
If CIA, then George Tenent wasn't all that truthfull to the 9/11 commission, was he?
Meaning that they knew about Moussaoui before the event.
Well, thank you for bringing it up again. I hadn't bothered to check it out in ProMED when I originally read the article.
Do we have anybody's word, besides his dad's, that Nick Berg was a Bush supporter?
Based on his words and actions, Michael Berg wouldn't be above fabricating such a story, for irony's sake...
The Bush supporter spin was one element of Dad's flimsy cover story.
Were he Mossad, Nick would have been more effectual. He would have been lopping their heads off.
What does the Dad do for a living?
I've seen posts enquiring as to what he does, but no ANSWERs.
Also, he is listed as helping to run the radio tower business.
You know...I get all of my news here...sometimes days or weeks ahead of mainsteam media...its like having 2,000 CIA analysts thinking outside the box, thowing out their opinions out there to get shot down...but there are sometimes nuggets...I for one would like to see the ability to pay for a separate investigation fund...wherein we can apply for FBI files etc. under the freedom of infromation act...freepers will know what questions need to be asked and specifically search for it... like this Berg case...must we rely on some mainstream media reporter to go find it? only to have his editor shut it down? I would happily pay into such a fund monthly. Just a thought.
That explains it all.
Foster might actually be of some help. All he needs is a magnifying glass, and the brother of one of the anthrax mailers to come forward, and voila! case closed.
Shakespearean Elegy -- the forged document that was declared authentic by Foster.
Unabomber -- turned in by his own brother.
JonBenet Ramsey -- he really nailed that one, didn't he?
Primary Colors -- and the crime was what, exactly?
The CIA is lying to the general public through the mainstream press about many things. One prominent example is regarding the whereabouts of Mohammed Atta between April 4 and April 11, 2001. The big question is whether they're doing this with the administration's explicit approval or whether they're actually lying to the President of the United States as well.
"Have the contents of the fourth contaminated letter ever been released? Was it a photocopy of the previous letters or something different?"
Fourth? to whom presumably sent?
The others being sent to Tom Brokaw, Tom Daschle, and the editor of The New York Post.
Just one of those nagging questions. That fourth letter gets overlooked.
There are at least 2 different letters (a third was photocopied from one of these two).
The suppression of the content of that fourth letter shows that as much as we do know about this attack, we still have not been provided with at least some of the clues.
Reportedly his son worked at the 2000 GOP convention. His name should appear on a roll someplace.
There were a few pictures of the opening of the Leahy envelope. They showed a copy of the Daschle letter being extracted.
What we don't have is an affirmative statement that the envelope only contained the letter and the anthrx. Did it contain anything else??? A star of david charm perhaps???
As I say, I never saw anything on the contents of this fourth letter and thought I'd ask.
Actually when combined with the Florida attack, there were at least 5 letters received.
Apparently, Nicholas Berg lived with the family in West Chester, but according to a 5/15 story by the Lancaster New Era, Prometheus Methods Tower Service Inc. (Inc.'d where, nobody knows) "officially operated " out an an 11-acre farm in New Providence, owned by Scott Hollinger. Hollinger, according to the interview, "a lifelong mountain climber who taught climbing in the Marines, answered a newspaper ad 14 months ago to work for Berg's company, Prometheus Methods Tower Service Inc." (which would be just about at the start of Op Iraqi Freedom, by my reckoning). There is no explanation of this odd arrangement (an employer's business located on an employee's property) other than the statement that "While the business officially operates out of Hollinger's farm, it is in reality a mobile office, and the two spent many a day climbing and maintaining communications towers up and down the East Coast." Now, if one needed to meet with certain people that might be noticed in one's neighborhood, an 11-acre farm, described as reachable by "back roads," would be a great alternative rendezvous point....
The article, written after Berg's funeral, goes on to say that "Hollinger and Berg's father, Michael, are going to have to sit down and discuss what's going to happen to Nick Berg's business, his vision." No mention is made of Michael Berg's status in the corporation. Of course, the elder Berg and Hollinger can make claim to any corporate position they desire, since there are apparently no corporate papers on file.
Hollinger also (conveniently) backs up the Berg family's story of Nicholas being "a huge George W. Bush supporter," (the first mention I've seen outside the family), but also says that he "plans to go kayaking with Michael Berg in a few weeks, and he plans "to maintain a relationship, and be there for them,'' (Berg's family).
An even more interesting statement by Hollinger appears in yesterday's Philadelphia Inquirer: "Nick never had a beer in his life. He was absolutely vice-free."
This statement doesn't jive with eye-witness accounts from those who stayed at the same Baghdad hotel as Nick. The much-quoted businessman, Andrew R. Duke (who claims Berg told him he made a lot of money in Iraq and planned to go boating in Turkey) says Nick had a beer with him at the bar the night before he left, and a hotel employee told the AP "He usually left the hotel in the morning and returned late, around 10 p.m., usually carrying a sack of beer and mineral water." The LA Times reported that "Berg told friends he was arrested after a night of drunken mischief (in Mosul)."
It seems rather convenient that in the last 48 hours we've had a statement supporting the father's contention that Nicholas was a Bush supporter, along with a bizarre AP story about Aziz Taee, an Iraqi exile/businessman who lived in Philly before the Iraq war, popping up to explain that he was Berg's contact/associate/pseudo-partner/whatever in Iraq, and that they climbed "tall buildings at Abu Ghraib" one night (I assume the reporter means towers, but what the heck), in an attempt to re-record measurements that were previously stolen when Berg was mugged on a Baghdad street, per Taee.
Whoraldo interviewed this guy by phone from Baghdad last night, and wound up hanging up on him because his answers to questions were so evasive.
Whatever was/is going on, I'm guessing involved parties have a vested interest in letting this story die.
The man knows nothing of normal postal operations or he'd understand that only one attack ~ in Florida ~ is necessary to explain the source, transport, cancelation, and delivery of each and every piece of mail involved.
If the FBI is still talking to Foster and taking him seriously that means they have yet to consult with knowledgeable postal transportation and operations analysts.
One of the FR threads had mention of a highschool teacher who Nick and said he was far leftwing. Still, I haven't seen much on this aspect other than what his father said.
There was no letter in the Florida attack. That was cross contamination from the 9/11 terrorist paying his rent to his landlord, the wife of the owner of the AMI building where the reporter died and the janitor got infected.
Have you seen this? He doesn't seem to be much of a fan of that inquiry of Iraqi expats that went on a while back.
Monitoring puzzles Iraqis in US
Some of those who fled Saddam Hussein's Iraq for the United States said that they believe a U.S. program that aims to identify terrorist threats by monitoring Iraqi Americans is as perplexing as it is disturbing. "If there is one group in America that wants to remove Saddam Hussein, it's Iraqi Americans," said Aziz Taee, a spokesman for the Iraqi-American Council in Washington.
Aziz Taee is also the guy who was at one of the DC chapter of FR's protests a while back.
> The media spin is he was a Bush supporter...the first thing that came to my mind was he was Mossad.
you and me both.
Yes, I've seen it -- Aziz is definitely an interesting character. He was all over the media, prior to the war, supporting Bush and the liberation of Iraq. Then the objections to the interrogation of Iraqis living here, then news that he faced deportation for criminal activitities in Philly.
If Berg was working with Aziz, why didn't Michael Berg, or Nick's "employee," Hollinger, mention that, instead of their vague descriptions of Nick Berg marching off into the sunset, not knowing anyone in Iraq, on a humanitarian mission? Either Nick didn't tell them, they don't want to advertise the connection, or Aziz is lying -- or maybe all of the above.
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