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3 posted on 05/16/2004 5:47:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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11 posted on 05/16/2004 7:10:37 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "Not a horse that cain*t be rode. Only one Rider that cain*t be throwed.")
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As always, thanks for the ping.


12 posted on 05/16/2004 7:13:09 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi (Free Mumia! er, Free Padilla!, no, that's been done. I know, FREE SADDAM!, yeah, that's the ticket!)
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The thrust of the research now seems indisputable: While certainly not yet a sure thing, and noting that much work remains to be done in animal and controlled human studies, barring unforeseen problems adult-stem-cell and related therapies may be potent sources of new and efficacious medical treatments in the years to come. Just as significantly, these therapies are likely to be available far sooner than embryonic-stem-cell treatments, since adult and related therapies do not appear to cause tumors, would not be rejected, and do not have to be maintained indefinitely in vitro, because they would come from patients' own bodies.

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17 posted on 05/16/2004 7:29:02 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (The BushAdm has apologized for abuse of suspected terrorists-Has the Arab world apologized for 9/11?)
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If cloning isn't possible yet; then why do we have laws defining clones?

One of the sites that is referenced throughout the Congressional Report (pasted below) is www.humancloning.org The Human Cloning Foundation has been determined to be a 501(c)3 non-profit organization and all donations are tax-deductible to the extent permitted by law. One of the first sites I found to redirect from this site was, The Godsend Institute.

Since Dolly, several scientists have cloned other animals, including cows and mice. Now, at Godsend, they have pioneered a technique that allows a cell nucleus from a recently deceased child to be implanted within a human egg, allowing a mother to carry that child to term again.

So I guess my question is, “Where Are We Medically With Human Cloning?”



1.
Laws and Legal Implications
1.1.
Legal Implications of Human Cloning
1
( ANNEX 1 )
Delivered on April 28, 2001 at the 8
th
National Convention of
Lawyers at the Waterfront Hotel, Cebu City by Dean Ernesto L. Pineda,
on the definition of clones and cloning, legal problems of human beings,
citizenship of the cloned child, support of the child and parental authority
and other rights of clone if they are persons with respect to the Philippine
setting.
1.2.
Laws and Regulations Concerning Cloning
2
( ANNEX 2)
The United States has no laws banning any type of cloning among
all parties. It does have restrictions on cloning in institutions that receive
federal funding. It virtually ignores private research. Other countries
1
The Lawyers Review, June 30, 2001, pp. 7-10
2
http://www.humancloning.org/allthe.htm, p. 1

Page 3
3
like England have laws against cloning. Attempts to implement
consistent laws throughout the world does not succeed because of both,
the difficulty in getting many countries to agree to common terms and the
inability to enforce regulations. The World Health Organization (WHO)
is currently studying the implications of human cloning research. Other
institution that has the power to reach across national borders has already
offered its opinion. The Vatican calls for an outright ban on human
cloning and urges scientists not to genetically alter animals.
1.3 State Human Cloning Laws
3
( ANNEX 3 )
Laws pertaining to human cloning in nine (9) states in the United
States.
1.4 The UK's Cloning Laws: A View from the Antipodes
4
( ANNEX 4 )
England's (UK) laws on cloning.
1.5 Legal Barriers To Human Cloning May Not Hold Up
5
( ANNEX 5 )
Legal Scholars view on the United States' Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) assertion of authority on cloning.
2. Religion on Cloning
2.1 The World God Created Must Not Be Profaned
6
( ANNEX 6 )
A religious message of Pope John Paul II to Christians on cloning.
3. Science
3.1 Cloning: A New Science Enters Infancy (Clone Hype)
7
(ANNEX 7)
One of the most misunderstood science headlines on cloned human
embryos in biotechnology done by researchers at George Washington
University that inflamed the debate about the ethical implications in the
application of technology to human reproduction.
3
http://www.humancloning.org/allthe.htm
4
Ibid
5
Today, June 15, 2001, p. 7
6
BC, March 30, 1997, p. 12
7
Newsweek, November 8, 1993, pp. 42-47

Page 4
4
3.2 Cloning: Where Do We Draw the Line?
8
( ANNEX 8 )
The first laboratory duplication of a human embryo that raises the
question: Where do we draw the line?
3.3 Science and Technology
9
( ANNEX 9 )
An article on the provenance and research context of the cloned
sheep, Dolly, as a the first genetically engineered creature to hit the
headlines.
3.4 To Ban or Not to Ban?
10
( ANNEX 10)
An article on the report of a presidential commission that sets the
stage for an American debate on human cloning.
3.5 Clones in China
11
( ANNEX 11)
An article on animal cloning in China
3.6 Cloned Lamb
12
(ANNEX 12 )
An article that describes the cloning of a lamb as a milestone
because the cloning has used a human gene.
3.7 Humans Next?
13
( ANNEX 13 )
Monkeys cloned from cells taken from embryos that marks the first
time a species that closely resembles humans.
3.8 Human Cloning - How to do it
14
( ANNEX 14)
4. Opinions /Views
The following articles are opinions or views on cloning that borders on the
effects it would create, the fears, fantasies, and monstrosities it carries, the problems it
posses, the good and bad it offers to man.
8
Time, November 8, 1993, pp. 31-36
9
The Economist, March 1, 1997, pp. 87-89
10
Time, June 16, 1997
11
China Today, June 1998, pp. 25-27
12
Today, July 7, 1997, p. 7
13
Today, March 4, 1997, p. 6
14
http://www.humancloning.org//allthe.html, p. 1

Page 5
5
4.1.
Hello, Dolly
15
(ANNEX 15 )
4.2. 'Fear of Abusing Human Clones Should
Not Deter Research Beyond Dolly
16
( ANNEX 16 )
4.3. 'Is Cloning Procreation?
17
( ANNEX 17 )
4.4. The Fantastic Made Real
18
(ANNEX 18 )
4.5. Little Lamb Who Made Thee?
19
(ANNEX 19 )
4.6. A Clone Chop, Anyone?
20
( ANNEX 20 )
4.7. In Cloning There is Limitless Promise, But Limited Delivery
21
ANNEX 21 )
4.8. More on Cloning
22
( ANNEX 22)
4.9 Cloning as An Anticlimax
23
( ANNEX 23 )
4.10 Immaculate Misconception
24
( ANNEX 24 )
4.11 No Genetic Engineering Allowed
25
(ANNEX 25)
4.12 What the Important People are Saying
26
( ANNEX 26 )
5. Articles Against Cloning
Those who are against cloning give their arguments in the following
articles:
5.1 The World As One Big "Jurassic Park”
27
( ANNEX 27)
An article that points out that biotechnology and genetic
engineering are very powerful. (Jurassic Park) suggests that control of
nature is elusive. And just as war is too important to leave to the
generals, science is too important to leave to scientist.
5.2
Fund For Sheep Cloning Halted As Concern Over ‘Master Race’
Rises
28
( ANNEX 28)
15
The economist, March 1, 1997, p. 16
16
Earth Science, March 4, 1997, p. 7
17
Today, March 4, 1997, p. 17
18
Newsweek, March 10, 1997, p. 2.
19
Newsweek, March 10, 1997, pp. 43-47
20
Newsweek, March 10, 1997, pp. 47- 50
21
Today, March 3, 1997, p. 8
22
Malaya, April 3, 1997, p. 5
23
Today, April 4, 1997, p. 11
24
Manila Chronicle, April 4, 1997, p.3
25
Manila Times, October 3, 1994, p. B9
26
http://www.humancloning.org//allthe.html, p. 1
27
Manila Bulletin, November 26, 1993, p. 11
28
Today, March 2, 1997, p.1

Page 6
6
5.3 Breakthrough in Cloning
29
( ANNEX 29 )
The objections posed in this article are:
- Commentators are straining to point out that even a clone would have
to be born and raised.
- Legal scholars tried to calm anxiety by pointing that armies of
mindlessly obedient worker-clones would be flatly illegal, given the
laws against slavery.
- The director of the US National Institutes of Health called the prospect
of human cloning “repugnant,” a view shared by the pope.
5.4 On Cloning Humans: What About the "Exalted Individual'?
30
( ANNEX 30)
“An instinct by humans to protect their distinctiveness is evident in
the first responses to the announcement that a sheep has been cloned.”
The article says that those who favor cloning stand accused of having
neglected the natural and social environments in which no cloned offspring
had to make their way.
5.5 Let The Study of Cloning Begin
31
( ANNEX 31 )
An article that presents the arguments of some scientist against
cloning.
5.6 Reasons Against Cloning
32
( ANNEX 32)
The article suggest the reasons why we should say no to cloning.
6. ARTICLES FOR CLONING
The following articles present the arguments for cloning.
6.1 Human Embryo Cloning Gaining Acceptance
33
( ANNEX 33 )
“Cloning could be used in medical research that could tackle
ailments such as Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s diseases.”
29
Philippine Journal, March 10, 1997, p. 2
30
Today, March 11, 1997, p. 7
31
Today, March 31, 1997, p. 11
32
http://www.ncsl.org/programs/health/Genetics/rt-shcl.htm, pp. 1-2
33
Manila Bulletin, September 29, 1999, p. 4

Page 7
7
6.2 UK to clone Human Embryos
34
( ANNEX 34 )
The government of UK or Britain is looking into the idea of
allowing an exception so that cloned embryos could be created by
researchers but not allowed to be kept growing for more than 14 days or
implanted in a womb.
6.3 "Give Clones Their Rightful Dignity'
35
( ANNEX 35 )
A journalist view of cloning. In support for it, he proposed the
Three Laws of Cloning: 1) A human clone is a human being no less
unique in his or her personhood than an identical twin. 2) A human clone
is a human being with all the rights and privileges that accompany this
moral issues. 3) A human clone is a human being to be accorded the
dignity and respect due any member of our species.
6.4 Human Cloning. Org
36
( ANNEX 36)
An article that presents all the reasons to clone human beings.
(CONGRESS 30: RRB CLONING)
RRB/LRS
RHAB/PEP/toe
7-09-03
34
Manila Standard, April 5, 2000, p. 17
35
Today, January 6, 2003, p. 6
36
Ibid


21 posted on 05/16/2004 7:50:06 PM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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Thanks for the ping!


26 posted on 05/16/2004 8:33:54 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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BTTT!!!!!!!


33 posted on 05/17/2004 3:06:40 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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Thanks for the ping.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'd rather stay in my wheelchair than walk if it means using murdered babies. Looks promising though I have to much muscle atrophy to help me.
37 posted on 05/17/2004 12:44:06 PM PDT by airborne (lead by example)
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