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Will law silence the church? Bill that would outlaw the Bible and Catechism in Canada passes House
Washington Times ^ | April 2004

Posted on 04/15/2004 12:47:44 AM PDT by NYer

Christian leaders in Canada fear that a new law might de facto condemn portions of the Bible as hate literature, an Anglican online service reports.

Bill C-250, which is currently before the Canadian parliament in Ottawa, proposes the proscription of public statements condemning homosexual behavior.

This could lead to a prosecution of the church for teaching that "sexual conduct between people of the same sex is morally wrong," warned the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops in a letter to Justice Minister Irwin Cotler, according to Virtuosity Digest, a conservative Anglican online publication.

Janet Buckingham, director of law and public policy for the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada, said senators told her they are "getting a ton of phone calls and e-mails opposing the bill."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bible; canuckistan; hatecrime; homosexual; homosexualagenda; ohcanaduh
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Wednesday, April 14, 2004

FROM THE SAME HOMOSEXUAL CANADIAN POLITICIAN WHO RIDICULED 9/11... ...comes a bill that would outlaw the Bible and Catechism in Canada.
Pete Vere

I kid you not.  Canadians are now on the verge of losing their religious and civil liberties.  Private Member's Bill C-250 will potentially outlaw the Bible and the Catechism of the Catholic Church in Canada as hate literature.  What frightens me and other Canadian Christians is that the bill already passed our House of Commons and is on the verge of passing in the Senate as well.

Bill C-250 is a private member’s bill that enshrines “sexual orientation” in Canada’s anti-hate speech laws.  It leaves the expressions  “sexual orientation” and “hate speech” undefined. Yet in recent rulings upheld by Canada's human rights tribunals, simply quoting from the Bible and other religious texts can now land you massive fines with the threat of incarceration.   Perhaps it is providential that Envoy Magazine has added an electronic edition so that our Canadian readership can remain informed.

The sponsor of Bill C-250 is none other than Svend Robinson.  Mr. Robinson hails from the electoral riding of Burnaby in British Columbia.  Besides being a member of the Canadian parliament, he is also Canada’s most well-known homosexual.  Mr. Robinson abandoned his wife midway through his career as a socialist politician to pursue a male lover. Nevertheless, he should not be confused with the Episcopalian bishop of New Hampshire.

Of course, in Svend’s Canada mocking Christians and insulting Americans does not constitute hate speech.  Asked what he thought of born-again Christians, Newsmax reports Svend’s response as follows: “Did they have to come back again as themselves?” 

Even more shameful is Mr. Robinson’s response to a recent Canadian effort to support our neighbors to the south during a time of national tragedy.  “According to Mr. Robinson,” the National Post reports, “9/11 might instead be named ‘Chile Day' - a sneering reference to the fact that Chilean president Salvador Allende died on the same day in a 1973 U.S.- backed military coup that resulted in shameful bloodshed.

John Pacheco is one of the key individuals organizing a protest against Bill C-250 on parliament hill for this coming weekend.  He discusses the threat this bill poses to religious and civil liberties in Canada on Ottawa's Christian radio station this morning.

John is working with Connie Wilkins who operates FreeDominion.ca -- the Canadian affiliate of FreeRepublic.  Connie has set up the following website detailing the Freedom Day protest on Parliament Hill this Saturday: http://www.freedominion.ca/libertyday.htm

Connie and John also sent me the following press-release detailing this event.  Below it, I've detailed some ideas on what our sympathetic American neighbours can do to help us:

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Ottawa, April 14, 2004 (National Liberty Day Committee)

On Saturday April 17, 2004, thousands of Canadians will converge on Parliament Hill to uphold and defend the fundamental freedoms of speech and religious liberty, and to express their opposition to the totalitarian impulse currently asserting itself in the legislative and judicial branches of the Canadian government. 

The rally has been called to draw attention to the imminent passage of Bill C-250, the proposed legislation which seeks to effectively criminalize the _expression of opinions against homosexual behaviour.  Organizers and participants believe that the passage of the Bill will accelerate the current persecution of Christians, Muslims, and other conscientious opponents of the homosexual lifestyle.  It is feared that the Bill will be used as an intimidation ploy to silence dissent and discussion on the moral and public health risks of the homosexual activity.

Participants are to gather at the Supreme Court at 2:00pm and then peacefully march to Parliament Hill for the demonstration which will feature music as well as speeches from politicians, religious leaders, and other prominent citizens.  Organizers are encouraging participants to bring their Canadian flags as a sign of solidarity and unity. The event is scheduled to end by 4:30pm.

For more information on the rally, visit the National Liberty Day Rally webpage at: http://www.freedominion.ca/libertyday.htm
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Unfortunately, as previously noted, we Canadians cannot go this alone.  Nor can American Christians allow Canadian Christians to fall behind enemy lines in the culture war.  So what can you do to help us? 

Well, come to the protest if it is possible.  If not, please keep us in prayer.  Additionally, please remember that despite the anti-Christian and anti-American sentiment of Canada's cultural left, our government still understands that Canadian tourism depends quite a bit on the American dollar.  So please go to the following website and tell the Ministry of Tourism that you are an American and a Christian with lots of tourist dollars, that you find Svend's comments about 9/11 offensive, and that you feel Bill C-250 is an encroachment of religious liberty in Canada.  The contact URL for our Ministry of Tourism is: http://www.tourism.gov.on.ca/english/feedback/feedback.html

Please pass this along to others as well...

1 posted on 04/15/2004 12:47:46 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer; scripter
I hope others see this thread.
2 posted on 04/15/2004 12:49:01 AM PDT by GeronL (I wore my chair out. I now use a plastic lawn chair.)
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp IV; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ..
Please help our Canadian friends!

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


3 posted on 04/15/2004 12:50:13 AM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: GeronL
I heard about something like this on Michael Savage's show. He said the Bible could be considered hate speech in Canada and therefore banned.
4 posted on 04/15/2004 12:50:31 AM PDT by Rams82
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To: scripter; little jeremiah; kattracks
Today, Canada - tomorrow, the US! Please bump your lists.
5 posted on 04/15/2004 12:51:35 AM PDT by NYer (O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
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To: Rams82
Leftists would like to ban all speech of which they do not approve.
6 posted on 04/15/2004 12:52:04 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NYer
They will have a hard time taking Bibles away here in Texas...
7 posted on 04/15/2004 12:52:32 AM PDT by Rams82
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping - Ok, Canada's ALMOST done, get the fork ready.

Make sure everyone you know sees this. Yup, Bible is hatespeech. We are taught to hate sin. Is this bad or good?

Let me get this right: the Torah is hatespeech, the Talmud is hatespeech, Old and New Testament are hatespeech, the Vedas are hatespeech, the Bhagavad Gita is hatespeech, Buddha's teachings are hatespeech, Sikh dharma is hatespeech, Jain teachings are hatespeech, Parsee religion is hatespeech, - any others that teach sex is right in marriage, wrong outside of marriage, and especially wrong between two people of the same sex?

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.
8 posted on 04/15/2004 12:54:55 AM PDT by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Rams82
They will have a hard time taking Bibles away here in Texas

HHmmmm... 'free bible with purchase of gun' would be common at gun stores in Texas if they tried to ban bibles. =o)

9 posted on 04/15/2004 12:56:02 AM PDT by GeronL (I wore my chair out. I now use a plastic lawn chair.)
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To: NYer
This is some pretty scarey stuff, and yes I'm serious.

Religious liberty is the cornerstone of our nation. If these types of laws are showing up in Canada, one ponders how long they will take to appear here.

Don't laugh this off folks. When religious liberty is gone here, look out.
11 posted on 04/15/2004 1:15:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: goldstategop
"Leftists would like to ban all speech of which they do not approve."

Yup. That's the way they are, and that's why I say one cannot be both a leftist and a decent person.
12 posted on 04/15/2004 1:30:16 AM PDT by dsc
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To: GeronL
I used to say jokingly that one day it would be illegal to speak the name Jesus. Well it has begun. Don't be surprised my friends when it begins to happen in the U.S. If they hated Him, they will hate his followers too.
13 posted on 04/15/2004 4:06:07 AM PDT by EAGLE7 (They may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: GeronL
Canada is acting like Europe West again (you know - Europe - where they don't allow citizens to vote on ceding their national sovereignty to the EU?). Voter apathy is allowing legislators and justices to steam roll their rights. Let's see if they can awaken from their slumber enough to object.
14 posted on 04/15/2004 4:15:55 AM PDT by Puddleglum (The Dems seem to have no problem in outsourcing America's oil production.)
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To: NYer
Canada is falling into the abyss. De profundis.
15 posted on 04/15/2004 4:40:49 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Rams82
"They will have a hard time taking Bibles away here in Texas..."

The surest way for the Left to start a civil war is to try and confiscate the Bibles of American Christians.
16 posted on 04/15/2004 4:42:13 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: NYer
Somehow I think this could be good in the long run. It's better for Satan to promote his agenda overtly, rather than covertly and indirectly through the media. Maybe the public will realize what's going on. Maybe.
17 posted on 04/15/2004 4:46:01 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Indie
Oh. canada. They of the flying beach towel flag are prepared to strike again. Keep voting Liberal, boys. And remember the "no prayer" services after September 11, and the "no mention of Jesus or God" at the services in Nova Scotia on the beach after the air crash. Sort of makes you wonder where they found a Bible for Andrew Wallet to swear on the other day in parliament, assuming it actually WAS a Bible - I mean, it didn't burst into flames or anything when he touched it.
18 posted on 04/15/2004 5:25:47 AM PDT by vandykelastone (I'm so glad Goober Pyle is the Governor of New Mexico, aren't you?)
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To: GeronL
I've seen it. What on earth are they thinking?
19 posted on 04/15/2004 5:28:40 AM PDT by tob2 (Old Fossil and proud of it!)
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To: vandykelastone
So long, Canada. Its been good to know ya.
20 posted on 04/15/2004 5:35:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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