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Gorelick's Wall: The Commissioner belongs in the witness chair.
The Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal ^ | April 15, 2004 | Editorial

Posted on 04/14/2004 9:38:55 PM PDT by quidnunc

We predicted Democrats would use the 9/11 Commission for partisan purposes, and that much of the press would oblige. But color us astonished that barely anyone appreciates the significance of the bombshell Attorney General John Ashcroft dropped on the hearings Tuesday. If Jamie Gorelick were a Republican, you can be sure our colleagues in the Fourth Estate would be leading the chorus of complaint that the Commission's objectivity has been fatally compromised by a member who was also one of the key personalities behind the failed antiterror policy that the Commission has under scrutiny. Where's the outrage?

At issue is the pre-Patriot Act "wall" that prevented communication between intelligence agents and criminal investigators — a wall, Mr. Ashcroft said, that meant "the old national intelligence system in place on September 11 was destined to fail." The Attorney General explained:

"In the days before September 11, the wall specifically impeded the investigation into Zacarias Moussaoui, Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi. After the FBI arrested Moussaoui, agents became suspicious of his interest in commercial aircraft and sought approval for a criminal warrant to search his computer. The warrant was rejected because FBI officials feared breaching the wall.

"When the CIA finally told the FBI that al-Midhar and al-Hazmi were in the country in late August, agents in New York searched for the suspects. But because of the wall, FBI headquarters refused to allow criminal investigators who knew the most about the most recent al Qaeda attack to join the hunt for the suspected terrorists.

"At that time, a frustrated FBI investigator wrote headquarters, quote, 'Whatever has happened to this — someday someone will die — and wall or not — the public will not understand why we were not more effective and throwing every resource we had at certain 'problems.' "

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; alhazmi; almidhar; aschcrofttestimony; ashcroft; clintonfailure; clintonfailures; gorelick; gorelickgate; gorelickmemo; moussaoui; sept11
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To: Zeroisanumber
Ms. Gorelick--an aspirant to Attorney General under a President Kerry--now sits in judgment of the current Administration. This is what, if the principle has any meaning at all, people call a conflict of interest.
21 posted on 04/14/2004 10:15:33 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: All
9-11 Commission Lunch Menu - April 15, 2004

Braised Crow with Ashcroft BBQ sauce
Gorelick toast
Green Beans Ben-Vineste
Sensenbrenner pie with whipped Kean

22 posted on 04/14/2004 10:16:54 PM PDT by O Neill (When Johny bin Kerry comes marchin' home: Who cares? Who cares?)
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To: Texas Eagle
Jim Sensenbrenner called for her resignation on MSNBC and Fox tonight. Ashcroft laid it all out in his testimony, and de-classified Gorelick's directive.

The party and the administration are wise beyond the comprehension of many. Come November, many, many more will "get it."
23 posted on 04/14/2004 10:17:16 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer
Great! I hope you call them as well.
24 posted on 04/14/2004 10:19:35 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer
Wrote the commission this evening......Was about to post to another that we cannot rely on (R)leadership to carry the ball....It'll just get stolen (spun)by the media.....We, the people, MUST be the activist....email, letters, phone calls....Put pressure on media, commission, congressmen.....The silent majority MUST find it's voice.
25 posted on 04/14/2004 10:20:22 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama
Just wrote the commission. This whole charade is a mockery. I don't know if I can stomach any more of it.
26 posted on 04/14/2004 10:23:44 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: quidnunc
Yep. The jig is up. Gorelick and the Democrats thought they could be sneaky and put this pig Gorelick on the Commission specifically so that she would be conveniently overlooked as a witness. Instead, they set themselves up to look like fools.

Ah, well....
The Bush team knew, weeks ago, what was going to come out from Ashcroft's testimony and so they "agreed" to "cave" and let Rice testify. This little masterstroke of sandbagging was, in retrospect, magnificent. Gorelick now has no excuse - -she cannot refuse to testify without looking like the biggest hypocrite on the face of the earth. And the Democrats can only sit by silently and pout. All that's needed now is for the Republicans to duplicate the insidious Democrat catcalls that were directed at Bush when they were trying to force Rice to testify.

By the way, I haven't heard from the scumbag "9-11 widows" of 'Today Show' fame - - what do they have to say about the Gorelick memo?

27 posted on 04/14/2004 10:24:11 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Did you see what our Kristinn (DC Chapter FR) did this AM? He took the research on the Gore airline fiascoes and distributed at the commission meeting....FR at it's finest!

That's the next punch they'll be feeling.....

Gore and Gorelick.... What a pair!
28 posted on 04/14/2004 10:29:54 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama
Did you see what our Kristinn (DC Chapter FR) did this AM? He took the research on the Gore airline fiascoes and distributed at the commission meeting....FR at it's finest!

Whoa! Thanks for the heads-up - - I missed that. Great freeping!

Today on Hannity's radio show he had Ashcroft on and he played the tape of Clinton talking about turning down Sudan's offer of bin Laden because he didn't have any legal reason to take him.

Stuff like this - - Kristinn's freep and Hannity playing the tape over and over - - make it impossible for the political elite and the Commission to claim they weren't "aware" of things.

29 posted on 04/14/2004 10:37:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Precisely! The dems repeat and repeat and repeat a lie until it becomes true......The R's say the truth once and expect it to stick.......We MUST keep repeating... and sending materials to the media.....Basically jounalist and "lazy",(No time to actually do research) they want someone else to do their work.....So keep feeding them OUR news.
30 posted on 04/14/2004 10:42:30 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama
"Wrote the commission this evening"

How? What is their e-mail?

31 posted on 04/14/2004 10:48:40 PM PDT by AlienCrossfirePlayer (proud of our brave warriors)
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To: b4its2late
bump!
32 posted on 04/14/2004 10:51:23 PM PDT by jonno (We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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To: quidnunc
Someone please give me a link to an e-mail list for all Senators that I can paste into the "To" slot on an e-mail. I want to mail the following to every one of those folks - fraud on the 9/11 Commission is being perpertrated and its got to be stopped.

I urge you all to e-mail something along the following lines:

Honorable Senators:

The revelation today that a 9/11 Terrorism Commission member was instrumental in the promulgation of a regulation that, as testified to by virtually all witnesses before the Comission, resulted in the DOTS not only not being connected, but in the DOTS not flowing to any central clearing point to be analyzed, is frankly astounding.

The fact that the individual in question, Jamie Gorelick, when faced with the fact of her involvement in a regulation she authored while in government that is a linchpin to the investigation, did not resign from the commission is astounding. As Senator Sennsenbrenner has pointed out, the published rules of the Comission's call for resignation in the case of such a conflict of interest.

I add my voice to those calling for, not only her resignation, but for her to be a witness before the Commission to explain why the regulations she promulgated went far beyond the legal requirements in force at the time, of seperating areas of involvement of the FBI and the CIA.

Anything less than Ms Gorelick's resignation will taint any findings that this already far too partisan endeavor may set forth. For the 9/11 Commission to be of service to the public, it must be above reproach - and the inclusion of an individual whose acts in government, however sincere at the time, resulted in one of the key impediments to intelligence gathering that might have prevented 9/11 is impermissable. The potential for conflict of interest is far, far to obvious, and, yes, even probable.

I call on you, collectively and individually, to act to resolve this violation of the public trust.

Sincerely:

Name, e-mail, and location.

Freepers - we need to stop this commission from becoming totally usless and totally without credibility. I have watched much of it - it has a chance to do some good, but not with a Comissioner such as Gorelick in place. This is the pot investigating the kettle. Uhh uhh. No way! Help clean up the 9/11 Commission

33 posted on 04/14/2004 10:55:46 PM PDT by HardStarboard ( Wesley...gone. Hillary......not gone enough!)
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To: potlatch; ntnychik; onyx; Alamo-Girl; devolve; MeekOneGOP; ALOHA RONNIE; Happy2BMe
Here's Gorelick's involvement in Chinagate courtesy Alamo-Girl's DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON
SECTION: BEHIND THE TREASON ALLEGATIONS
SUBSECTION: JANET RENO & DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Revised 1/8/01
:

Original Sources 3/9/99 Mary Mostert "… In 1996 Bill Clinton told reporters he was "not told about the June 1996 FBI warnings of Communist Chinese involvement in the 1996 presidential election." However, it was later learned that president Clinton not only KNEW about it, but that he subsequently made a thwarted attempt to obtain the counterintelligence information about what the FBI had learned of the Communist Chinese influence on the presidential election in November of 1996. Charles Ruff, Clinton legal counsel who most recently defended him in the Senate Impeachment trial, made the FBI contact. Ruff contacted Janet Reno's deputy JAMIE GORELICK and wanted to know what federal investigators knew or suspected about Chinese illegal contributions to the presidential campaign. However, when FBI director Freeh learned of the White House probe by GORELICK, he ordered the information not be provided to Clinton, federal law enforcement officials told the Daily Republican in 1997. In a New York Times story Ruff was quoted as telling Gorelick he was seeking the information on behalf of the National Security Council…. However, law enforcement officials pointed out that Ruff's request was received only after FBI director Freeh had left Washington on a trip to the Middle East. In his absence, attorney general Janet Reno and GORELICK quickly moved to obtain the secret FBI files. Before the Justice Department turned over the FBI files to Clinton's legal counsel, Robert Bryant, then head of the FBI national security division, picked up the telephone and informed Freeh of Clinton's probe for the secret files on the Chinese investigation. Freeh ordered the files withheld. And people wonder how come the Senate of the United States was never able to get Janet Reno to obey the law of the land and appoint an independent counsel to investigate the Chinese money that helped get Clinton and Gore elected…."

Note: David A. Wise, The Bureau and the Mole, Atlantic Monthly Press, 2002, page 179, Clinton, behind closed doors, says, "Louis Freeh is a g-dd-mn f--king -assh-le."

This ostensibly followed Freeh's public claim that the White House had victimized him [Freeh] and the FBI in Filegate.

Gorelick covered the waterfront for Hillary during the Whitewater heat and apparently helped defend Clifford and Altman in BCCI. Checking.

34 posted on 04/14/2004 10:57:08 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: potlatch; ntnychik; onyx; Alamo-Girl; devolve; MeekOneGOP; ALOHA RONNIE; Happy2BMe
"Who is Jack Ryan?" (Wall Street Journal, Monday, August 1, 1994):

"Attorneys for Mr. Clifford and Mr. Altman included independent counsel Robert Fiske and Deputy Attorney General Jamie GORELICK, as well as Robert Bennett, president Clinton's attorney in the Paula Corbin Jones case."

35 posted on 04/14/2004 11:01:03 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer
Address: National Commission on Terrorist Attacks
201 7th Street SW
Room 5125
Washington DC 20407

Email*: Info@9-11Commission.gov

PHONE: 202-331-4060

FAX: 202-296-5545

*Had trouble getting the email through.....Who knows!
36 posted on 04/14/2004 11:02:23 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama
Thanks. Pardon me while I put the info to work.
37 posted on 04/14/2004 11:05:53 PM PDT by AlienCrossfirePlayer (proud of our brave warriors)
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To: Kryptonite
You misunderstood re Y2K - they are talking about the millenium bombing plot; however, their reaction is the same, to try and persuade people they should get credit for something a good customs agent on pure luck helped uncover.

Here is most incredible NEWS I find here:

In case anyone was in doubt, Janet Reno herself affirmed the policy several months later in a July 19, 1995, memo that we have unearthed. In it, the then-Attorney General instructs all U.S. Attorneys about avoiding "the appearance" of overlap between intelligence-related activities and law-enforcement operations.

Janet Reno just testified she didn't know about Gorelick's wall!

38 posted on 04/14/2004 11:06:42 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Pukin Dog
The Bush team knew, weeks ago, what was going to come out from Ashcroft's testimony and so they "agreed" to "cave" and let Rice testify. This little masterstroke of sandbagging was, in retrospect, magnificent. Gorelick now has no excuse - -she cannot refuse to testify without looking like the biggest hypocrite on the face of the earth. And the Democrats can only sit by silently and pout. All that's needed now is for the Republicans to duplicate the insidious Democrat catcalls that were directed at Bush when they were trying to force Rice to testify.

I like it.....after their theatrics over Rice, how can they justify Gorelick not testifying?
39 posted on 04/14/2004 11:09:12 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: Steven W.
You misunderstood re Y2K - they are talking about the millenium bombing plot.

I continue to place lesser significace on the *plot* you identify than the risk that computers wouldn't recognize the date change and cause unimaginable bedlam, which was the canard the Klintoon administration allowed to fester, and which Gorelick offered as threat deserving of a 9/11-type category on her cable news appearances.

40 posted on 04/14/2004 11:21:18 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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