Aug. 6, 2001 briefing on al-Qaida only latest in series (Drudge Developing)

Drudge Report ^ | 4-13-04 | Matt Drudge

[Spotsy]

Aug. 6, 2001 briefing on al-Qaida only latest in series of warnings about terror threat sent to White House... Developing...

[Spotsy]

Hope this isn't duplicate post

[Spotsy]

Here we go . . . Commission will want all Bush PDBs . . . What about Clinton's? - especially those leading up to the multiple attacks that occurred on his watch

[plain talk]

I suspected this. When I first heard about this infamous PDB one of my first thoughts were about previous ones including those sent to Clinton. Surely this wasn't the first briefing to mention Al Quaida and how they want to kill us.

[oceanview]

you will never see the clinton ones released, or even asked for, by the committee.

[jbstrick]

drip.....

drip............

[max_rpf]

Bush will take a very public stand here. They are giving the president the opportunity to unwinding their new "precedent".

[Howlin]

Aug. 6, 2001 briefing on al-Qaida only latest in series of warnings about terror threat sent to White House...

Drudge just cannot stop himself from hyping it, can he?

*Sigh* It was not a "warning sent to the White House." It was a REQUESTED REPORT ON BACKGROUND generated by a request by the president for a compilation of all the available current information.

[Parley Baer]

Well if they are anything like the August 6 memo they will be a dud. IMHO the smoking gun is the Gorelick memo creating a wall between agencies such as the FBI and the CIA. That is serious in my opinion. Basically klintoon was treating terrorism as a police problem. I would like to know when the arrest warrants for Bin Laden were issued and when klintoon claimed he had no reason to arrest him??? Parley

[Spotsy]

Not to mention, Drudge's teaser is not very well written

[oceanview]

yes, but the perception presented by the media is reality for many people, this is what the media is trying to achieve.

[Spotsy]

IMHO the smoking gun is the Gorelick memo

Gorelick certainly should be embarassed.

Can anyone confirm that it was Billy or his administration who stopped the CIA's use of bad guys as informants or to infiltrate bad-guy organizations?

[Spotsy]

How do I modify original post? Help!

Panel Says Bush Saw Repeated Warnings

By Dana Priest

Washington Post Staff Writer

Wednesday, April 14, 2004; Page A01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9642-2004Apr13.html

[jocon307]

"Can anyone confirm that it was Billy or his administration who stopped the CIA's use of bad guys as informants or to infiltrate bad-guy organizations?"

I beleive a lot of the credit for that goes to Robert "Torch" Toricelli, former failure, senator, from my state of New Jersey.

IIRC it predates Clinton, but I could be wrong about that.

[Retired Chemist]

It's A Washington Post story about all the memos the August PDB sums up!

[Retired Chemist]

The headline should have added that action was taken!

[STARWISE]

You are right. It was that self-aggrandizing, holier-than-thou FORMER Rat senator, "the Torch," .... Robert "Rolex-Begging-Toricelli who decided that our intel agents just shouldn't deal with less than sterling characters in the hunt for intelligence, as if the underworld could possibly be populated with upstanding people. WHATTAJERK!

Other than that, I don't have much of an opinion about him .. ;-)

[Cedar]

Yeah, sometimes Drudge looks like a liberal site with his headlines and bad photos.

[Future Useless Eater]

What's even more important, is EVERY democRAT on the
committee WILL try to delay the report to be released
CLOSER to the election.

And it's ALL election-year hogwash! Very sad for the
memories of those who died.

[Spotsy]

Who do I contact to modify this thread?

Drudge update:

Panel Says Bush Saw Repeated Warnings
By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer

Wednesday, April 14, 2004; Page A01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9642-2004Apr13.html

[sixmil]

Apparently Bush was busy passing Ted Kennedy's education bill. The 'right' to an education trumps life and property.

[Spotsy]

Robert "Rolex-Begging-Toricelli who decided that our intel agents just shouldn't deal with less than sterling characters in the hunt for intelligence, as if the underworld could possibly be populated with upstanding people. WHATTAJERK!

Why has no mention been made of this by the 9/11 Commission?

The Bremer Commission on terrorism made this issue the centerpiece of their recommendations in the summer of 2000 (Woolsey contributed)

[Mo1]

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[Mo1]

Why has no mention been made of this by the 9/11 Commission?

Don't know

Brian Wilson discussed much of these intel problems on Brit Hume's show tonight

This intel problem goes back to the EO that Carter signed when he was president

[Smartass]

Link below to see 9-11 Commissioner Jamie Gorlick's memo

De Classified Memo Dated April 10, 2004

Adobe Acrobat Reader Required.

[Cedar]

Wish I could help. I'm fairly new, so I don't know who you contact. Sorry.

[Cedar]

Oh, I see Mol helped you out already. Hadn't read all the posts when I replied.

[FairOpinion]

Here is the one at MSNBC, at least you don't have to register:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4734564/

"Tenet: 'System was blinking red'"

And exactly what did Tenet DO about it?????

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[Migraine]

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Short of grounding the entire transportation system of the USA indefinitely (that's a long-ass time), no one could have done a damn thing about 9/11 before the fact. And if they had, no one would know or acknowledge that they had. That's the hell of it: prevention is the most thankless job in the universe (other than changing out empty toilet paper rolls).

[Wilhelm Tell]

you will never see the clinton ones released, or even asked for, by the committee.

Typical. On the bright side, no sane person wants to hear Clinton give a blow-by-blow account of his activities.

[CurlyDave]

From the MSNBC article:

"The intelligence included reports of a hostage plot against Americans. It noted that operatives might choose to hijack an aircraft or storm a U.S. embassy."

"The government moved on several fronts to counter the threats. The CIA launched "disruption operations" in 20 countries. Tenet met or phoned 20 foreign intelligence officials. Units of the 5th Fleet were redeployed. Embassies went on alert. Cheney called Crown Prince Adbullah of Saudi Arabia to ask for help. National security adviser Condoleezza Rice asked the CIA to brief Attorney General John D. Ashcroft about an "imminent" terrorist attack whose location was unknown."

Sounds to me like Bush was doing something about it. The problem is that you have a warning about "...an "imminent" terrorist attack whose location was unknown."

Also the type of attack was not known, but there was speculation about many different types of potential threats.

Ask any critic: "with the knowledge available in early August 2001, what would you have done?" If they cheat and use 20-20 hindsight to solve the problem, ask them what to do about the next attack.