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Bush: No Warning in Pre-Sept. 11 Memo
Yahoo! AP ^ | 04/12/2004 | PETE YOST

Posted on 04/12/2004 11:41:47 AM PDT by BJClinton

CRAWFORD, Texas - On the defensive, President Bush said Monday there was no warning in a pre-Sept. 11 intelligence memo that "something is about to happen in America" before the nation's worst terrorism attack. He said U.S. intelligence services may be due for reforms.

"There was nothing in there that said, you know, `There is an imminent attack,'" Bush told reporters. "That wasn't what the report said. The report was kind of a history of Osama's (bin Laden's) intentions."

Democrats have suggested there was more to the memo, the center of an election-year skirmish over the president's anti-terrorism policies before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. He said he would answer more questions at an East Room news conference Tuesday night. It will be the first formal news conference of the year.

Bush is coming under intense scrutiny for his anti-terrorism policies before the 2001 attacks. The criticism threatens Bush's political standing seven months before he stands for re-election, with the war on terrorism his strongest selling point.

At the center of the brouhaha is an intelligence memo from Aug. 6, 2001, showing that Bush received reports from as recent as May 2001 about possible terrorist plots in the United States.

The memo specifically told Bush that al-Qaida operatives had reached American shores, had a support system in place and were engaging in "patterns of suspicious activity ... consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks." It did not provide specific times or places for potential attacks.

Standing alongside Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak at a joint news conference, Bush minimized the importance of the memo.

"There was nothing in this report to me that said, `Oh, by the way, we've got intelligence that says something is about to happen in America,'" Bush said.

Citing statements by national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, Bush said: "Now may be the time to revamp and reform our intelligence services."

He said the memo brought him some comfort when it outlined efforts by the FBI to prevent attacks. "Had they found something, I'm confident they would have reported back to me," Bush said.

The president has been on the defensive since the White House, under pressure, released the memo Saturday.

The document has "nothing about an attack on America. It talked about intentions, about somebody who hated America — well, we knew that," Bush said Sunday.

"I was satisfied that some of the matters were being looked into" and had any specific intelligence pointed to threats of attacks on New York and Washington, "I would have moved mountains" to prevent it, Bush said during a visit to Fort Hood, Texas, 50 miles from his ranch here.

A Republican member of the Sept. 11 commission backed that up Monday.

Former Illinois Gov. Jim Thompson told ABC's "Good Morning America" that "no reasonable American could hold the president responsible for the attack."

"If I'm the president and I get a special briefing that I've asked for, and he asked for this, and said the FBI is conducting 70 field investigations about this, then I assume the FBI is on top of the job," Thompson said. "The president is not an FBI agent."

Commission member Jamie Gorelick, a former deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration, told NBC"s "Today" show "there is a major game of finger-pointing going on around here. Our job is to get to the bottom of it."

Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., said public figures "shouldn't be scapegoating" and said he believes serious questions must be raised about whether the FBI is equipped to deal with terrorism.

Bayh said most Western governments have separate counterterrorism departments. "We don't. We need to ask ourselves, maybe the time has come to do that," he told CBS's "The Early Show."

The memo's contents are somewhat of a surprise because for two years, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice starting with a May 2002 news conference left the impression that the document focused on historical information and that any current threats mostly involved overseas targets.

Rice first outlined the then-classified memo's contents at a news conference in May 2002. The "overwhelming bulk of the evidence" before Sept. 11, she declared, was that any terrorist attack "was likely to take place overseas."

The 500-word document mentioned two current threats: suspected al-Qaida operatives might have cased federal buildings in New York and that, according to a phone call to an American embassy in the Middle East, a group of supporters of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden was in the United States to plan attacks with explosives.

The FBI later concluded that two Yemeni men photographing buildings in New York were tourists.

To accentuate the potential domestic threat, the memo told Bush the FBI had 70 investigations related to bin Laden under way.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911; 911memo; alqeada; binladen; bush; bushknew; memo; osama; sept11; yost
Doesn't change the fact that Bush knew and let it happen for political gain. </sarcasm>
1 posted on 04/12/2004 11:41:49 AM PDT by BJClinton
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To: BJClinton
this press conference he is going to hold - its time to put it on the line and say that "some members" of the committee are becoming partisan. Certainly, no one can make that claim about the Republicans on the committee, so the door is open for Bush to stake claim to the issue of partisan use of the committee - I believe a majority of americans would side with him on that.
2 posted on 04/12/2004 11:45:47 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: BJClinton
The subtle attempts of AP to try and undermine this President and Condoleeza Rice's testimony are reprehensible! AP stands for what? Almost Press -
3 posted on 04/12/2004 11:46:13 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: BJClinton
"CRAWFORD, Texas - On the defensive, President Bush said Monday "

On the defensive? you scumbag left wing reporters! Why is Kerry hiding for weeks now?? Is HE on the defensive??
4 posted on 04/12/2004 11:49:57 AM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
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To: princess leah
AP stands for ALWAYS PARTISAN!
5 posted on 04/12/2004 11:50:17 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: princess leah
Why don't some rich Republicans buy out AP? We have no friggin guts!!
6 posted on 04/12/2004 11:51:14 AM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
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To: international american
AP is a cooperative, owned by newspapers and broadcasters who subscribe to its service.
7 posted on 04/12/2004 11:56:39 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Then we should buy ABC or CBS there appears to be little or no effort by the Repbubs to counteract the left wing media..God knows the Waltons could do it with a phone call to 80 Wall ST!!
8 posted on 04/12/2004 11:59:50 AM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
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To: BJClinton
Have you noticed that the ones yelling "Bush could have/should have done something" the loudest, are the same ones who get upset when the terror alert level is moved up one knotch. They say, "He shouldn't raise the level until we know specifics." I bet someone with nexus search could find quotes like that, probably from some of thise that are most vocal about how Bush had enough info.
9 posted on 04/12/2004 11:59:59 AM PDT by feedback doctor (we need more Bort license plates in the gift shop)
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To: BJClinton
On the defensive, President Bush said Monday there was no warning in a pre-Sept. 11 intelligence memo that "something is about to happen in America" before the nation's worst terrorism attack. ... Bush is coming under intense scrutiny for his anti-terrorism policies before the 2001 attacks. The criticism threatens Bush's political standing seven months before he stands for re-election, with the war on terrorism his strongest selling point.

No bias here. None at all...

10 posted on 04/12/2004 12:04:32 PM PDT by CedarDave (Democrat campaign strategy: Tell a lie often enough today and it becomes truth tomorrow.)
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To: CedarDave

"On the defensive, President Bush "

Nuff said:)
11 posted on 04/12/2004 12:10:13 PM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
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To: BJClinton
Yeah, there were no warnings about terrorism, except for fools like me who screamed at the top of my lungs about all of the planes getting blown up out of the skies, particularly from JFK. I detailed all of these events but every just told me to shut up. Yeah, there were no warnings. How could anyone have seen 9/11 coming?
12 posted on 04/12/2004 12:15:14 PM PDT by Silas
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To: international american
ABC is owned by Disney and CBS is owned by Viacom and I can't imagine any good reason why either would want to sell.

Cool Media Chart!

All the media worth anything is owned by just seven corporate entities now (Clear Channel Communications isn't on the chart).

13 posted on 04/12/2004 12:34:37 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: AntiGuv
"ABC is owned by Disney and CBS is owned by Viacom and I can't imagine any good reason why either would want to sell. "
14 posted on 04/12/2004 12:38:04 PM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
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To: AntiGuv
Rush and his buddies have been buying up liberal stations, and converting them to conservative stations...at a great profit. Disney and Redstone are beholding to their stockholders...A good offer could take either one over.
15 posted on 04/12/2004 12:41:38 PM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
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To: international american
The only news media worth mention that's not on there is NBC - owned by General Electric, which isn't a primarily media corporation.
16 posted on 04/12/2004 12:45:47 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: oceanview
Commission member Jamie Gorelick, a former deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration, told NBC"s "Today" show "there is a major game of finger-pointing going on around here. Our job is to get to the bottom of it."

If he is going to mention "partisanship" in the committee, he need go no further than Gorelick. Why is someone who was an ASSistant AG in the previous administration even on the committee? Is she really trying to"get to the bottom of it", or merely cover her tracks?

17 posted on 04/12/2004 12:48:12 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: BJClinton
I would like to hear the president simply say,

"We have posted that memo on the front page of www.whitehouse.gov .... decide for yourself if it was a warning of a specific attack."

If he wished to then suggest that people think about how he and the Congress ought to respond to this type of information that the government had for at least three years, and what they believe they would have been willing to put up with in terms of greater personal surveillance in the US prior to 9/11, I would not argue with him, but I'd suggest he not get too involved in the details.
18 posted on 04/12/2004 12:48:19 PM PDT by AFPhys (My Passion review: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1089021/posts?page=13#13)
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To: BJClinton
On the defensive,

It took all of the first three words for Yost to spin this story.

19 posted on 04/12/2004 12:48:28 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: BJClinton
On the defensive, President Bush said Monday there was no warning in a pre-Sept. 11 intelligence memo that "something is about to happen in America" before the nation's worst terrorism attack.
"On the defensive"?

How about: In response to incessant media yammering on the subject...

20 posted on 04/12/2004 12:49:59 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: AntiGuv
"NBC - owned by General Electric, which isn't a primarily media corporation.

NBC has been on the auction block several times in the past 6 years.

21 posted on 04/12/2004 12:52:44 PM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
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To: BJClinton; okie01; Shermy
"There was nothing in there that said, you know, `There is an imminent attack,'" Bush told reporters.

The Dem imminence front attack never stops. Bush never said the threat from Iraq was imminent, but the Dems continually claim that he did. And this memo claims no imminent threat from al Qaeda ... but the Dems claim it did.

22 posted on 04/12/2004 12:54:12 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: samtheman
What amazes me is how the mainstreat media has abandonded any effort to at least put on a fig leaf of impartiality. Their spin and editorializing within news articles didn't use to be this blatant.
23 posted on 04/12/2004 12:55:48 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: BJClinton
Correct me if I am wrong, but the 19 9/11 terrorists PASSED security screening as it was specified then. Their boxcutters were clearly under the 4 inch knive blade limit and they did not carry guns, explosives or flammable liquids.
Even if the White House had invoked profiling, these folks would have been searched and then allowed to board WITH their boxcutters.
Why doesn't someone remind the media of this?
24 posted on 04/12/2004 1:01:18 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: international american
Yes, but GE has far less reason to hold on to NBC than entertainment conglomerates like Disney or Viacom have to hold on to their network outlets.
25 posted on 04/12/2004 1:01:29 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: BJClinton
These folks in the media try to blame the President for everything! NO SPECIFIC LOCATION OR TIME! Pres. Clinton rejected extradition offers from Sudan, but the media says that's OK since Pres. Clinton is one of them.

It was raining like heck today in Orlando! Must have been President Bush fault. ;-)
27 posted on 04/12/2004 1:12:08 PM PDT by PRSOrlando
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To: dirtboy
You could sum up the media coverage of this circus in 2 words:

Get Bush

28 posted on 04/12/2004 1:17:47 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: BJClinton
Here's the raw briefing:

Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US

Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate Bin Ladin since 1997' has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Ladin implied in US television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bring the fighting to America."

After US missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, Bin Ladin told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a [deleted text] service. An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told an [deleted text] service at the same time that Bin Ladin was planning to exploit the operative's access to the US to mount a terrorist strike.

The millennium plotting in Canada in 1999 may have been part of Bin Ladin's first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the US. Convicted plotter Ahmed Ressam has told the FBI that he conceived the idea to attack Los Angeles International Airport himself, but that Bin Ladin lieutenant Abu Zubaydah encouraged him and helped facilitate the operation. Ressam also said that in 1998 Abu Zubaydah was planning his own US attack.

Ressam says Bin Ladin was aware of the Los Angeles operation.

Although Bin Ladin has not succeeded, his attacks against the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 demonstrate that he prepares operations years in advance and is not deterred by setbacks. Bin Ladin associates surveilled our Embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam as early as 1993, and some members of the Nairobi cell planning the bombings were arrested and deported in 1997.

Al-Qa'ida members — including some who are US citizens — have resided in or traveled to the US for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure that could aid attacks. Two al-Qa'ida members found guilty in the conspiracy to bomb our Embassies in East Africa were US citizens, and a senior EIJ member lived in California in the mid-1990s.

A clandestine source said in 1998 that a Bin Ladin cell in New York was recruiting Muslim-American youth for attacks.

We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a [deleted text] service in 1998 saying that Bin Ladin wanted to hijack a US aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Shaykh" 'Umar' Abd aI-Rahman and other US-held extremists.

Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full field investigations throughout the US that it considers Bin Ladin-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our Embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group of Bin Ladin supporters was in the US planning attacks with explosives.

29 posted on 04/12/2004 1:28:06 PM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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To: princess leah
The subtle attempts

Subtle ?

30 posted on 04/12/2004 2:23:55 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: samtheman
Those two words also sum up the Bubba Presidency.
31 posted on 04/12/2004 2:39:10 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: princess leah
Associated Proletariats
32 posted on 04/12/2004 3:42:14 PM PDT by Killborn (I'd rather have Big Bizniz than Big Guvmint. (Happy Easter and God bless to one and all!))
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To: feedback doctor
They will also be the ones yelling had Bush known and did something. They'll say "Racism against Arabs" when the 19 are prevented from boarding. When we go to war in Afghanistan, the old "Stop America Imperialism", "Peace now", "No blood for oil" and other such cr@p will be spewed forth by the socialists.
33 posted on 04/12/2004 3:45:34 PM PDT by Killborn (I'd rather have Big Bizniz than Big Guvmint. (Happy Easter and God bless to one and all!))
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To: BlessedByLiberty
This is why I never read newspapers other than NewsMax and WorldNetDaily. They're two of the only presses that offer unbiased reporting that won't stoop to lying just to attack our President.
34 posted on 04/12/2004 3:49:12 PM PDT by Redemption (We all seek it at some point.)
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To: BJClinton
Link to the article

From Joseph Farah's "Jihad in America" in the November 2001 issue of Whistleblower magazine.

The country is united politically right now, so I'm sure I'll be accused of divisiveness, partisan sniping, maybe even being unpatriotic by raising this issue.

But, heck, I've been accused of worse. Last week the Wall Street Journal called me a "purveyor of obscenity." I'll let you be the judge of whether that description suits me.

I never let those criticisms bother me – especially not from uptight, corporate media establishment mouthpieces and spoiled, little, ivory-tower reactionaries.

So, today I'm going to tell you how Al Gore may have contributed, in his own politically ambitious, selfish way, to the deaths of some of the victims of the terrorist attacks Sept. 11.

Following the downing of TWA Flight 800 in 1996, Gore was entrusted by President Clinton to investigate airline safety. He was named chairman of the White House Commission on Aviation Safety.

The Gore commission produced what most observers considered to be a tough preliminary report unveiled Sept. 9 of that year – one that included tough counter-terrorism procedures.

But within days, according to an insider on the commission, the airline industry jumped all over Gore. As a result, 10 days later, Gore sent a letter to airline lobbyist Carol Hallett promising that the commission's findings would not result in any loss of revenue.

In what can only be seen as a pure political payoff, the Democratic National Committee received $40,000 from TWA the next day. Within two weeks, Northwest, United and American Airlines ponied up another $55,000 for the 1996 campaign.

But the money trail didn't stop there. In the next two months leading up to the November elections, American Airlines donated $250,000 to the Democrats. United donated $100,000 to the DNC. Northwestern put $53,000 more into the kitty.

Following the election, in January, Gore floated a draft final report that eliminated all security measures from the commission's findings, according to the insider. Two commission members balked, as did CIA Director John Deutch.

Fearing more political heat, Gore pulled back the draft report. A month later, the final report was issued – one that included requirements that would cost the airlines some money, but, perhaps, save some lives in the future.

The report's requirements included: high-tech bomb detectors;

more training for airport security;

criminal background checks for security personnel;

increased canine patrols.

Only one thing was lacking from the report, said the whistleblower – there was no deadline by which those requirements would have to be met. It was open-ended. In other words, it wasn't worth the paper on which it was written.

In a meeting with other commission members Feb. 12, 1997, Gore said he would leave room for a dissent by those who opposed the report. But within minutes, Gore was announcing to the president and the public that the report was the work of a unanimous commission. In other words, he lied – again.

In Washington, that might have been the end of the story. Scandals like this often go unnoticed. But one courageous lady, the dissenting member of the commission, Victoria Cummock, filed suit to gain access to files she was denied and for the right to file her dissent.

Who is Mrs. Cummock? She was appointed to the commission by Clinton because her husband was killed in the terrorist downing of Pan Am Flight 103 in Lockerbie, Scotland. She's the insider. She's the whistleblower. She's the heroine of this story.

All this was chronicled in a Tony Blankley column a year ago – a year and five days before the latest terrorist attack that killed all passengers and all the crew on four airliners as well as thousands on the ground at the World Trade Center and Pentagon Sept. 11.

Would any of that death and destruction have been prevented had Gore not crawled into bed with the airline industry thinking only in the short term about potential financial losses, not realizing it might be saving itself from much bigger losses in the future?

I guess we'll never know for sure. But remember this story the next time Al Gore rears his opportunistic political head on the national scene.

35 posted on 04/12/2004 5:23:52 PM PDT by BigLittle (And why did Janet Reno forbid the CIA and FBI to interact?)
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To: international american
I don't ever read the AP.
I pretty much follow UPI now that it has been bought by Sun Moon. At least he is a christian... in spite of the way the lieberal left have tried to paint him as a typical Korean...
he is a good man with solid values.
The AP seems to be run by the French.
36 posted on 04/12/2004 6:07:18 PM PDT by Limbaudda
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To: AntiGuv
Jack Welch is one of the good guys and a big Bush contributor.
37 posted on 04/12/2004 6:08:29 PM PDT by Limbaudda
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To: Silas
And of course Tom Clancy's exact depiction of how it could be done was pure fancy. It could never happen. Bojinka never existed. Ee Gad what a bunch of dolts we have in government.

They never even fired anyone over it.
38 posted on 04/12/2004 6:23:56 PM PDT by mercy
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To: BJClinton
Warning - depends on your definition of warning.

They want to attack us - ok , where & when.
They have plans - please be more specific.
OBL has a 'Johnson' for the US.
Somebody, sometime is going to attack us - we have proof.

Great truths in hindsight are just dandy.
39 posted on 04/12/2004 6:28:22 PM PDT by familyofman
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To: feedback doctor
I have not seen any information that would have stopped from going to work in the twin towers that 9/11 morning.I don't believe the information they had would justify telling people to stay home that day.
40 posted on 04/12/2004 8:43:50 PM PDT by Big Horn (A waist is a terrible thing to mind.)
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To: BJClinton
How pathetic all this is. I just heard Susan Estrogen on Fox saying something about "shaking the trees". If Bush had paid more attention to the August 6 memo he would have been out "shaking the trees".

But do these liberal morons know what "shaking the trees" means? It means arresting people. Seizing property. Intercepting information. And this is all stuff that they say we're doing too much of right now, after 9/11.

On the long list of hysterical webpages on the ACLU website devoted to the dastardly Patriot Act, there's this page: Attorney General John Ashcroft’s Assault on Civil Liberties (Updated September 2003).

And on that one page (one of many pages), is a long list of the horrible dastardly crimes of John Ashcroft (not labelled "shaking the trees" though that's surely what he's doing).

And in the middle of the list is one hugely dastardly horrendous crime of the attorney general. Check it out:

Has asked Neighborhood Watch groups to work with the federal government to identify terrorists.
This, to the pin-head liberals, is a great affront to liberty. Asking folks to watch out in their own neighborhoods for suspicious activity that might not be related to burglaries!

Pin-head Estrogen is moaning and whining that we weren't out "shaking the trees". What in her teeny, tiny brain does she imagine such activity to entail, if even asking folks to keep an eye out in their own neighborhood is a horrible, dastardly John Ashcroft crime????

41 posted on 04/12/2004 9:38:44 PM PDT by samtheman
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