Nirvana fans to mark Cobain death

BBC On Line/Entertainment ^ | Monday, 5 April, 2004 | staff writer

[dfwgator]

Kurt Cobain is the most overrated rock personality ever. His bandmate Dave Grohl's stuff with the Foo Fighters blows away anything Kurt ever wrote. Heck you couldn't even understand what the guy was trying to sing (I guess it also worked for early REM as well). Nirvana was just the product of hype, other grunge bands like Alice in Chains, blew away Nirvana, even though they were all junkies as well.

[Billthedrill]

Well, I'm not ready to nominate the boy for sainthood, but Kurt could turn a pretty fine phrase when he wanted to. Not everybody in Seattle liked him, either. I was on 1st Avenue outside a club the other evening and saw one of the headliner bands was named "Courtney Killed Kurt." Hmm...

[nonliberal]

you and I don't like the same music. I like Soundgarden up through Badmotorfinger and I think Alice In Chains is great. Cobain is not fit to string Jerry Cantrell's guitar.

[Xenalyte]

Sonic Youth bump. "Confusion is Sex" is some of the most wonderful noise I have had the pleasure to play again and again since high school.

The first SY album I listened to was Daydream Nation - very accessible - but I have a sneaky fondness for Bad Moon Rising.

Seven days and seven nights
I dreamt a sailor's dream at sea
Seven days and seven nights
I dreamt a sailor's dream of me
Seven days and seven nights
The world was made and lost again
Seven days and seven nights
Brave men run
In my family
Brave men run
Into the setting sun
Brave men run
Into captivity
Brave men run
In my family

[Sam's Army]

Have you checked out the book called "Confusion is Next" about Sonic Youth's history? Really neat stuff. They were very detailed in terms of specific equipment, guitar string settings, etc for shows. Lots of times they would have seperate guitars with strings tuned (or de-tuned) the way needed to minimize time between songs getting ready.

Nothing can beat the freaky spookiness of Kim Gordon's vocals IMO. She reminds me of when I used to work in a crisis unit years ago.

[Xenalyte]

When her voice is bad, it's pretty bad (like on some of Experimental Jet Set), but when it's good it's haunting. I remember lying on the carpet of my friend's apartment with my head between two speakers, listening to "Shaking Hell."

[MD_Willington_1976]

Mass Suicide?

Jim Jones Cool-Aid?

[reagan_fanatic]

Great. We need another dead rock musician vigil like we need a hole in the head.

[Pharmboy]

There's musicianship and there's artistry--they should not be confused.

Paganini was a brilliant violonist, but nowhere as a composer. Bach was a good organist, but his compositions changed music forever. A genius transforms the art--that's what Cobain (and Beethoven and Bach) did. R&R will never be the same after him. The metal that you love is good music, but not in Kurdt's ballpark in terms of transformational art.

Whom do you think they'll be talking about in 20 years? Soundgarden or Nirvana?

[nonliberal]

Whom do you think they'll be talking about in 20 years? Soundgarden or Nirvana?

Neither. People will realize how overrated Cobain really was.

[nonliberal]

There's musicianship and there's artistry--they should not be confused.

There is also lack of talent and there is genius. They should not be confused either.

[Pharmboy]

I hope we're both around in twenty years so I can remind you just how profoundly wrong you were (and I am not arguing taste here--that is impossible; I am arguing about a transformational effect on an art form that you--for whatever reason--refuse to recognize).