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Vatican Worries About Kerry
NewsMax.com ^
| 3/28/04
| Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Posted on 03/29/2004 12:38:30 AM PST by kattracks
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To: zbigreddogz
I don't actually think that would be good from a religious standpoint, I believe it's more important to be inclusive and let God sort out the rest, The purpose of a public excommunication is to remind a public, flagrant, and unrepentant sinner that he is, in fact, publicly, flagrantly, and unrepentantly sinning. It is hoped that by excommunicating him he will be called to repentance (excommunication can be lifted), and that the faithful (and the unfaithful as well) will not be scandalized by his behaviour. Mr. Kerry's behaviour is certainly causing public scandal.
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posted on
03/29/2004 7:36:13 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Chief Engineer, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemens' Club)
To: ArrogantBustard
When this hypocrite threw in the line of wearing a rosary around his neck during his tour of vietnam right then and there he proved he has no knowledge of the rules of the CATHOLIC church ,they are to be keeped in your pocket or if you are a PRIEST or NUN they are worn around the waist, the little people of the church remember these nuances.
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posted on
03/29/2004 7:58:13 AM PST
by
douglas1
(i CANNOT IMAGINE)
To: kattracks
I would have to ask if kerry is allowed to recieve the host then why cant I, why cant a lot of people who have married outside the church recieve the host, I could never go to the alter and accept the body of CHRIST ,where does kerry get off doing this ,once I married outside the church I was no longer a CATHOLIC ,I tried to rectify the problem and it did not work out ,so maybe the church is worried thata lot of people out there like myself will follow kerrys lead ,I cannot believe that anyone would knowingly try to decieve CHRIST.
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:14:20 AM PST
by
douglas1
(i CANNOT IMAGINE)
To: hobbes1
Do you think any diocese would consider an October surprise?
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:22:41 AM PST
by
secret garden
(Go Predators! Go Spurs!)
To: secret garden
No.....sadly.
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:25:05 AM PST
by
hobbes1
(Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
To: sweetliberty; billbears
To them, God is just a convenient campaign tool.You are right on, s/l.
To: kattracks
Kerry gets upset when his staff doesn't leave time in his schedule for him to go to mass? Yeah, right. Excuse me while I go puke. He came to mass a week ago ten minutes late and wearing a ski suit.
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:26:08 AM PST
by
Ciexyz
To: TrueBeliever9
"...a picture of Kerry going up to the Communion rail and being denied, and you've got a story that'll last for weeks," Father Thomas Reese, editor of the Jesuit magazine America, told Time." The priest should not give him communion, but offer him a blessing. That is what is done for non-Catholics; they approach the priest at communion in a different posture (arms crossed) to receive a blessing instead. Then the church can issue a statement that he is not to receive communion, not in good standing, but that the church is praying he will repent. That approach would avoid the image of him being "turned away." Of course, Kerry will probably try to turn the "blessing" into an endorsement by the Catholic church.
To: hobbes1
I feel your pain. Seriously, with all the crapola my church has been going through it can be very frustrating to watch people who are entrusted to lead just crumble when put to the test. However, their cowardice shouldn't stop our efforts. The letter writing and public questioning will continue.
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posted on
03/29/2004 8:32:33 AM PST
by
secret garden
(Go Predators! Go Spurs!)
To: zbigreddogz
I don't actually think that would be good from a religious standpoint, I believe it's more important to be inclusive and let God sort out the rest, but it would be great from an election point of view. Then why have any standards in a faith at all? If church should just be "inclusive," then why speak out against any conduct... adultery, racism, abortion, homosexuality, anything? I am sure there are faiths that adopt this point of view, but I think it is up to people who believe in that approach to seek out and embrace those faith(s). Kerry should stop proclaiming himself a Catholic and find a faith consistent with his own views. Saying he's a Catholic and defying the most basic tenets of the church shows the standard John Kerry mixture of hypocrisy and arrogance.
Teresa on the Stump, Teresa Heinz Kerry, from Mozambique, PRO-ABORTION Catholic, UN Employee, etc.
Teresa Heinz Kerry, Drummond Pike and the Communist TIDES FOUNDATION The Bible and homosexuality [Kerry thinks the bible is for homosexuality]
Catholic Pro-Abortion, Pro-Homosexual
Catholic and 100% Pro Abortion
Catholics Kerry and Kennedy have a 100% Pro-homosexual Record with the Human Rights Campaign! Page 10,11
CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
DOCTRINAL NOTE
on some questions regarding
The Participation of Catholics in Political Life
Living the Gospel of Life:
A Challenge to American Catholics
A Statement by the Catholic Bishops of the United States
Faithful Citizenship:
Civic Responsibility for a New Millennium
An Old Testament, Litany of Life
Canon Law and Abortion
Sign Petition: To Excommunicate
The Gospel of Life--Evangelium Vitae
Herod's Heroes, Sign Petition
CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
LETTER TO THE BISHOPS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
ON THE PASTORAL CARE OF HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS
CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS
Guidelines for Education within the Family
THE PONTIFICAL COUNCIL FOR THE FAMILY
THE TRUTH AND MEANING OF HUMAN SEXUALITY
Catechism on Homosexuality
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posted on
03/29/2004 10:28:13 AM PST
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus
In John F'ing Kerry's world....on any given Sunday he is:
HE IS NOT a ROMAN CATHOLIC that explains his spitting on the Pope.
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posted on
03/29/2004 10:38:23 AM PST
by
antivenom
("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
To: Northern Yankee; NYer
Oh really... I guess John then it means you don't have to subscribe to the doctrine of the church, or the teachings of Christ, or the Ten Commandments. It crimps your style, John? That's exactly right. He should be excommunicated.
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posted on
03/29/2004 7:35:08 PM PST
by
Victoria Delsoul
(Kerry's 3 Purple Hearts are: 2 for minor arm and thigh injury and 1 for killing a semi-dead VietCong)
To: Victoria Delsoul
He should be excommunicated. Agreed!
I'm not going to hold my breath. (Maybe we could get Archbishop Burke elected Pope? *Grins*)
Archbishop Burke was our Bishop in this diocease. He took a lot of flack from a lot of people (Including Catholics that I know) for telling many local politicians that they need to follow church doctrine if they expect to receive the sacraments.
Many blasted the church for its "unforgiving attitude" when they completely misunderstood the intent.
The church is looking for the salvation of the soul, more so than pleasing groups of voters. I don't understand why many don't get this?
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posted on
03/30/2004 4:07:17 AM PST
by
Northern Yankee
( "Behold Mother... I make all things new." - Jesus of Nazareth)
To: Northern Yankee
"I don't understand why many don't get this?"
Because they don't want to get it. Sad, but true.
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posted on
04/01/2004 9:08:12 AM PST
by
Romish_Papist
(Father, forgive me, for I know not what I do.)
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